Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i

[Mathew Howard]

We have one of each on one tower, but it's kind of hard to compare them
fairly when they're aimed opposite directions, and dealing with very
different terrain. I always meant to swap them someday and see what effect
that had, but realistically, we probably never will.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:32 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net
> wrote:

>
> Has anyone run both kp and cambium?  I'd be curious about a comparison
> [posted Sun 3/25 @ 12:34 pm]
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 4:39 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i
>
> That KPP sector actually is dual slant... I think we have one of those up,
> it should have a bit wider beam than the Cambium sectors, but it seemed to
> me like it performed about the same otherwise.
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:57 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I agree we should be looking at dual slant.  I think I'll revisit our
>> design
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:32 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i
>>
>> Are you setting up all of your 900mhz 450I to be dual-pol instead of
>> dual-slant? That simplifies procuring antennas but is not to Cambium
>> standard. It depends how flat the ground around you is, but at that
>> distance the downtilt will usually be zero.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900
>>> MHz 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to 7
>>> miles away? It has zero electrical down tilt
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Has anyone run both kp and cambium?  I'd be curious about a comparison
[posted Sun 3/25 @ 12:34 pm]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 4:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i


  That KPP sector actually is dual slant... I think we have one of those up, it 
should have a bit wider beam than the Cambium sectors, but it seemed to me like 
it performed about the same otherwise.


  On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:57 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:


I agree we should be looking at dual slant.  I think I'll revisit our design

  - Original Message - 
  From: Colin Stanners 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Cc: memb...@wispa.org 
  Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i


  Are you setting up all of your 900mhz 450I to be dual-pol instead of 
dual-slant? That simplifies procuring antennas but is not to Cambium standard. 
It depends how flat the ground around you is, but at that distance the downtilt 
will usually be zero.



  On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:

We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900 
MHz 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to 7 miles 
away? It has zero electrical down tilt

Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i

[Mathew Howard]

That KPP sector actually is dual slant... I think we have one of those up,
it should have a bit wider beam than the Cambium sectors, but it seemed to
me like it performed about the same otherwise.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:57 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net
> wrote:

>
> I agree we should be looking at dual slant.  I think I'll revisit our
> design
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:32 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i
>
> Are you setting up all of your 900mhz 450I to be dual-pol instead of
> dual-slant? That simplifies procuring antennas but is not to Cambium
> standard. It depends how flat the ground around you is, but at that
> distance the downtilt will usually be zero.
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
> wrote:
>
>> We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900 MHz
>> 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to 7 miles
>> away? It has zero electrical down tilt
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I agree we should be looking at dual slant.  I think I'll revisit our design

  - Original Message - 
  From: Colin Stanners 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Cc: memb...@wispa.org 
  Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i


  Are you setting up all of your 900mhz 450I to be dual-pol instead of 
dual-slant? That simplifies procuring antennas but is not to Cambium standard. 
It depends how flat the ground around you is, but at that distance the downtilt 
will usually be zero.



  On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:

We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900 MHz 
450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to 7 miles 
away? It has zero electrical down tilt

Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i

[Mathew Howard]

What dual polarity 900mhz antennas are you finding that aren't slant?

Also, it works fine to mix slant and H/V between the APs and SMS with
PMP450.

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018, 11:32 AM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Are you setting up all of your 900mhz 450I to be dual-pol instead of
> dual-slant? That simplifies procuring antennas but is not to Cambium
> standard. It depends how flat the ground around you is, but at that
> distance the downtilt will usually be zero.
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:
>
>> We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900 MHz
>> 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to 7 miles
>> away? It has zero electrical down tilt
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i

[Dave]

anywhere from .5 to 1.5 degrees if your 100' or so above average terrain.


On 03/15/2018 10:03 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900 
MHz 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up 
to 7 miles away? It has zero electrical down tilt


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Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i

[Colin Stanners]

Are you setting up all of your 900mhz 450I to be dual-pol instead of
dual-slant? That simplifies procuring antennas but is not to Cambium
standard. It depends how flat the ground around you is, but at that
distance the downtilt will usually be zero.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900 MHz
> 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to 7 miles
> away? It has zero electrical down tilt
>

Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i

[Philip Rankin]

Depends on haat.




On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:03 PM Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900
> MHz 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to
> 7 miles away? It has zero electrical down tilt
>
-- 
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762

[AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i

[Jay Weekley]

We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900 
MHz 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to 
7 miles away? It has zero electrical down tilt