Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Josh Reynolds]

All calculations were done in the past.

If you were going to do a calculation in the future, then you plan to
do it... but it hasn't been done yet.



On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I assume there is a word for it, but what happens when we hit the hard limit
> of how fast particles or whatever can move? Whats that called? Like absolute
> zero in regard to heat. you could aggregate, but that limit would still
> bottleneck. Will we have to start installing flux capacitors ad do our
> processing in the past? We could kick off a computation today and have the
> calculations take place in the infinity of the past, then dinosaurs could do
> VR shit.
> It would all get fubar though cause some dick would calculate pi and tie up
> the machine, eventually kicking off some fatal system error, next think you
> know time has a kernel panic and we are all stuck in some crummy timeline
> loop
>
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account)
> <li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>> The same technology set which is making quantum computing possible is
>> making the next generation of encryption possible. See
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_cryptography
>>
>> Also,  ibm has put a previous iteration of their quantum computer online
>> so mere mortals can run code on it.   See
>> https://quantumexperience.ng.bluemix.net/qx
>>
>> On Nov 16, 2017 9:00 AM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I bet someone has been working on a problem that a QC can't easily solve
>>> in order to make new encryption.
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message --
>>> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: 11/16/2017 8:11:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism
>>>
>>> If no one of merit is breaking encryption, the technology will stagnate
>>> and undiscovered vulnerabilties would be exploited by malicious actors.
>>>
>>> On Nov 15, 2017 11:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The goal for governments to have this computer is to destroy encryption.
>>>> That's why China just announced they are spending $10B to build one.  The
>>>> goal of IBM is to sell the patent rights.  They need a big win and this may
>>>> be it.
>>>>
>>>> Rory
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:59 AM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism
>>>>
>>>> How do we know it already is or is not?
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/15/2017 10:48 AM, Dave wrote:
>>>> > too much power for the govment they wouldnt know what to do with it..
>>>> > in fact A.I. may run the govment for them LOL
>>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Adam Moffett]

You been watchin Star Trek re-runs dog?


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 11/16/2017 12:22:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

I assume there is a word for it, but what happens when we hit the hard 
limit of how fast particles or whatever can move? Whats that called? 
Like absolute zero in regard to heat. you could aggregate, but that 
limit would still bottleneck. Will we have to start installing flux 
capacitors ad do our processing in the past? We could kick off a 
computation today and have the calculations take place in the infinity 
of the past, then dinosaurs could do VR shit.
It would all get fubar though cause some dick would calculate pi and 
tie up the machine, eventually kicking off some fatal system error, 
next think you know time has a kernel panic and we are all stuck in 
some crummy timeline loop


On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
<li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
The same technology set which is making quantum computing possible is 
making the next generation of encryption possible. See  
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_cryptography 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_cryptography>


Also,  ibm has put a previous iteration of their quantum computer 
online so mere mortals can run code on it.   See 
https://quantumexperience.ng.bluemix.net/qx 
<https://quantumexperience.ng.bluemix.net/qx>


On Nov 16, 2017 9:00 AM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
I bet someone has been working on a problem that a QC can't easily 
solve in order to make new encryption.


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 11/16/2017 8:11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

If no one of merit is breaking encryption, the technology will 
stagnate and undiscovered vulnerabilties would be exploited by 
malicious actors.


On Nov 15, 2017 11:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
wrote:
The goal for governments to have this computer is to destroy 
encryption.  That's why China just announced they are spending $10B 
to build one.  The goal of IBM is to sell the patent rights.  They 
need a big win and this may be it.


Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

How do we know it already is or is not?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/15/2017 10:48 AM, Dave wrote:
> too much power for the govment they wouldnt know what to do with 
it..

> in fact A.I. may run the govment for them LOL

Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Steve Jones]

I assume there is a word for it, but what happens when we hit the hard
limit of how fast particles or whatever can move? Whats that called? Like
absolute zero in regard to heat. you could aggregate, but that limit would
still bottleneck. Will we have to start installing flux capacitors ad do
our processing in the past? We could kick off a computation today and have
the calculations take place in the infinity of the past, then dinosaurs
could do VR shit.
It would all get fubar though cause some dick would calculate pi and tie up
the machine, eventually kicking off some fatal system error, next think you
know time has a kernel panic and we are all stuck in some crummy timeline
loop

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> The same technology set which is making quantum computing possible is
> making the next generation of encryption possible. See
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_cryptography
>
> Also,  ibm has put a previous iteration of their quantum computer online
> so mere mortals can run code on it.   See https://quantumexperience.
> ng.bluemix.net/qx
>
> On Nov 16, 2017 9:00 AM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I bet someone has been working on a problem that a QC can't easily solve
>> in order to make new encryption.
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 11/16/2017 8:11:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism
>>
>> If no one of merit is breaking encryption, the technology will stagnate
>> and undiscovered vulnerabilties would be exploited by malicious actors.
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2017 11:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The goal for governments to have this computer is to destroy
>>> encryption.  That's why China just announced they are spending $10B to
>>> build one.  The goal of IBM is to sell the patent rights.  They need a big
>>> win and this may be it.
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:59 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism
>>>
>>> How do we know it already is or is not?
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 11/15/2017 10:48 AM, Dave wrote:
>>> > too much power for the govment they wouldnt know what to do with it..
>>> > in fact A.I. may run the govment for them LOL
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

The same technology set which is making quantum computing possible is
making the next generation of encryption possible. See
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_cryptography

Also,  ibm has put a previous iteration of their quantum computer online so
mere mortals can run code on it.   See
https://quantumexperience.ng.bluemix.net/qx

On Nov 16, 2017 9:00 AM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I bet someone has been working on a problem that a QC can't easily solve
> in order to make new encryption.
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 11/16/2017 8:11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism
>
> If no one of merit is breaking encryption, the technology will stagnate
> and undiscovered vulnerabilties would be exploited by malicious actors.
>
> On Nov 15, 2017 11:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> The goal for governments to have this computer is to destroy encryption.
>> That's why China just announced they are spending $10B to build one.  The
>> goal of IBM is to sell the patent rights.  They need a big win and this may
>> be it.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:59 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism
>>
>> How do we know it already is or is not?
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 11/15/2017 10:48 AM, Dave wrote:
>> > too much power for the govment they wouldnt know what to do with it..
>> > in fact A.I. may run the govment for them LOL
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Robert]

I wonder if it has significant advantages for bitcoin mining...   It 
would be funny if all the sudden a bunch of blocks appeared...


On 11/16/17 6:08 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
It just strikes me that the pictures of this quantum computer look as 
different from today's computers as the computers from 50 years ago look 
different from today's computers. 50 years from now I assume our grand 
kids will be walking around with quantum computers on their wrists or 
embedded someplace whining about how long it takes to solve some mystery 
we can't even think about at the moment. "I just got my new Centillion 
bit watch today. That old Vigintillion one was getting so damn slow."


On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 7:11 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


If no one of merit is breaking encryption, the technology will
stagnate and undiscovered vulnerabilties would be exploited by
malicious actors.

On Nov 15, 2017 11:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:

The goal for governments to have this computer is to destroy
encryption.  That's why China just announced they are spending
$10B to build one.  The goal of IBM is to sell the patent
rights.  They need a big win and this may be it.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

How do we know it already is or is not?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/15/2017 10:48 AM, Dave wrote:
 > too much power for the govment they wouldnt know what to do
with it..
 > in fact A.I. may run the govment for them LOL

Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Adam Moffett]

I bet someone has been working on a problem that a QC can't easily solve 
in order to make new encryption.


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 11/16/2017 8:11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

If no one of merit is breaking encryption, the technology will stagnate 
and undiscovered vulnerabilties would be exploited by malicious actors.


On Nov 15, 2017 11:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
wrote:
The goal for governments to have this computer is to destroy 
encryption.  That's why China just announced they are spending $10B to 
build one.  The goal of IBM is to sell the patent rights.  They need a 
big win and this may be it.


Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

How do we know it already is or is not?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/15/2017 10:48 AM, Dave wrote:
> too much power for the govment they wouldnt know what to do with 
it..

> in fact A.I. may run the govment for them LOL

Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Lewis Bergman]

It just strikes me that the pictures of this quantum computer look as
different from today's computers as the computers from 50 years ago look
different from today's computers. 50 years from now I assume our grand kids
will be walking around with quantum computers on their wrists or embedded
someplace whining about how long it takes to solve some mystery we can't
even think about at the moment. "I just got my new Centillion bit watch
today. That old Vigintillion one was getting so damn slow."

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 7:11 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> If no one of merit is breaking encryption, the technology will stagnate
> and undiscovered vulnerabilties would be exploited by malicious actors.
>
> On Nov 15, 2017 11:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> The goal for governments to have this computer is to destroy encryption.
>> That's why China just announced they are spending $10B to build one.  The
>> goal of IBM is to sell the patent rights.  They need a big win and this may
>> be it.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:59 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism
>>
>> How do we know it already is or is not?
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 11/15/2017 10:48 AM, Dave wrote:
>> > too much power for the govment they wouldnt know what to do with it..
>> > in fact A.I. may run the govment for them LOL
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Steve Jones]

If no one of merit is breaking encryption, the technology will stagnate and
undiscovered vulnerabilties would be exploited by malicious actors.

On Nov 15, 2017 11:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> The goal for governments to have this computer is to destroy encryption.
> That's why China just announced they are spending $10B to build one.  The
> goal of IBM is to sell the patent rights.  They need a big win and this may
> be it.
>
> Rory
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:59 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism
>
> How do we know it already is or is not?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 11/15/2017 10:48 AM, Dave wrote:
> > too much power for the govment they wouldnt know what to do with it..
> > in fact A.I. may run the govment for them LOL
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Rory Conaway]

The goal for governments to have this computer is to destroy encryption.  
That's why China just announced they are spending $10B to build one.  The goal 
of IBM is to sell the patent rights.  They need a big win and this may be it.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

How do we know it already is or is not?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/15/2017 10:48 AM, Dave wrote:
> too much power for the govment they wouldnt know what to do with it.. 
> in fact A.I. may run the govment for them LOL

Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Bill Prince]

How do we know it already is or is not?

bp


On 11/15/2017 10:48 AM, Dave wrote:
too much power for the govment they wouldnt know what to do with it.. 
in fact A.I. may run the govment for them LOL

Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Dave]

Naa too much power for the govment they wouldnt know what to do with 
it.. in fact A.I. may run the govment for them LOL



On 11/15/2017 12:25 PM, Zach Underwood wrote:

Or 4) gov't to Snoop on it's own people.

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)

http://ZachUnderwood.me

advance-networking.com 


On Nov 15, 2017 1:11 PM, "Robert Andrews" > wrote:


I predict this amazing compute power will be used for one of three
things first...   1) beat the market   2) porn   3) Spam...

On 11/15/2017 09:19 AM, Dave wrote:

Well thats it.. next we will have a robot revolution we will
have to combat.. Luckily I kept my plasma cannon from college


On 11/15/2017 07:44 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:



http://wonderfulengineering.com/ibm-has-successfully-built-the-worlds-most-powerful-quantum-computer-to-date/



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Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Zach Underwood]

Or 4) gov't to Snoop on it's own people.

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)

http://ZachUnderwood.me

advance-networking.com



On Nov 15, 2017 1:11 PM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:

> I predict this amazing compute power will be used for one of three things
> first...   1) beat the market   2) porn   3) Spam...
>
> On 11/15/2017 09:19 AM, Dave wrote:
>
>> Well thats it.. next we will have a robot revolution we will have to
>> combat.. Luckily I kept my plasma cannon from college
>>
>>
>> On 11/15/2017 07:44 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://wonderfulengineering.com/ibm-has-successfully-built-
>>> the-worlds-most-powerful-quantum-computer-to-date/
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> *Rory Conaway **� Triad Wireless �**CEO*
>>>
>>> *4226 S. 37^th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040*
>>>
>>> *602-426-0542*
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>

Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Robert Andrews]

I predict this amazing compute power will be used for one of three 
things first...   1) beat the market   2) porn   3) Spam...


On 11/15/2017 09:19 AM, Dave wrote:
Well thats it.. next we will have a robot revolution we will have to 
combat.. Luckily I kept my plasma cannon from college



On 11/15/2017 07:44 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:


http://wonderfulengineering.com/ibm-has-successfully-built-the-worlds-most-powerful-quantum-computer-to-date/

�

*Rory Conaway **� Triad Wireless �**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542*

*r...@triadwireless.net *

*www.triadwireless.net *

*�*

/�Yesterdays Home Runs don�t win todays games!�/

�

Re: [AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Dave]

Well thats it.. next we will have a robot revolution we will have to 
combat.. Luckily I kept my plasma cannon from college



On 11/15/2017 07:44 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:


http://wonderfulengineering.com/ibm-has-successfully-built-the-worlds-most-powerful-quantum-computer-to-date/

*Rory Conaway **� Triad Wireless �**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542*

*r...@triadwireless.net *

*www.triadwireless.net *

**

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[AFMUG] Good old American Capitalism

[Rory Conaway]

http://wonderfulengineering.com/ibm-has-successfully-built-the-worlds-most-powerful-quantum-computer-to-date/

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