Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

2015-07-03 Thread Adam Moffett

I have a  script grab the text config and FTP it to a central place.
I've never had that method fail.

I might still be grabbing the binary backup at the same time, but 
historically (ROS 2.9.x) I had problems restoring them so I stopped trying.


On 7/3/2015 1:20 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
I see a whole lot of options out there with scripts using mail, etc. 
Waht works well, whats cumbersome, simplified is good, alerting on 
backups not taking place is better.


As best i can tell, if you do backup to a backup file, that can only 
be restored to the same device, or am I misunderstanding that?


I thought the dude could pull backups, but Im not seeing it anywhere 
in documentation


I dont mind a combination of text config for reference and full backup 
file.


In all likely hood a disaster restore would go to the same model, I 
just dont want the backup file restoring the original device MAC addresses


We have a linux backup server that pulls backups from fortigates and 
imagestreams, but its a cumbersome process that I dont really monitor 
anymore


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[AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

2015-07-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I see a whole lot of options out there with scripts using mail, etc. Waht
works well, whats cumbersome, simplified is good, alerting on backups not
taking place is better.

As best i can tell, if you do backup to a backup file, that can only be
restored to the same device, or am I misunderstanding that?

I thought the dude could pull backups, but Im not seeing it anywhere in
documentation

I dont mind a combination of text config for reference and full backup file.

In all likely hood a disaster restore would go to the same model, I just
dont want the backup file restoring the original device MAC addresses

We have a linux backup server that pulls backups from fortigates and
imagestreams, but its a cumbersome process that I dont really monitor
anymore

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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

2015-07-03 Thread Keefe John

like what?

On 7/3/2015 12:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
A comprehensive monitoring system that includes Rancid is the best way 
to go.




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*From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, July 3, 2015 12:20:16 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

I see a whole lot of options out there with scripts using mail, etc. 
Waht works well, whats cumbersome, simplified is good, alerting on 
backups not taking place is better.


As best i can tell, if you do backup to a backup file, that can only 
be restored to the same device, or am I misunderstanding that?


I thought the dude could pull backups, but Im not seeing it anywhere 
in documentation


I dont mind a combination of text config for reference and full backup 
file.


In all likely hood a disaster restore would go to the same model, I 
just dont want the backup file restoring the original device MAC addresses


We have a linux backup server that pulls backups from fortigates and 
imagestreams, but its a cumbersome process that I dont really monitor 
anymore


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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

2015-07-03 Thread Mike Hammett
A comprehensive monitoring system that includes Rancid is the best way to go. 




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http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:20:16 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options 


I see a whole lot of options out there with scripts using mail, etc. Waht works 
well, whats cumbersome, simplified is good, alerting on backups not taking 
place is better. 


As best i can tell, if you do backup to a backup file, that can only be 
restored to the same device, or am I misunderstanding that? 


I thought the dude could pull backups, but Im not seeing it anywhere in 
documentation 


I dont mind a combination of text config for reference and full backup file. 


In all likely hood a disaster restore would go to the same model, I just dont 
want the backup file restoring the original device MAC addresses 


We have a linux backup server that pulls backups from fortigates and 
imagestreams, but its a cumbersome process that I dont really monitor anymore 


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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

2015-07-03 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
I make an export (text) file and backup file every night.  Getting them off
the device you can push or pull.  Currently I have 3 different flavors
running on my system

1. Pull file via FTP using a program like PyroFTP

2. Push files from device to FTP server

3. Push files from device via e-mail


 



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Friday, July 3, 2015, 1:20:16 PM, you wrote:

TOGs I see a whole lot of options out there with scripts using
TOGs mail, etc. Waht works well, whats cumbersome, simplified is
TOGs good, alerting on backups not taking place is better.


TOGs As best i can tell, if you do backup to a backup file,
TOGs that can only be restored to the same device, or am I
TOGs misunderstanding that?


TOGs I thought the dude could pull backups, but Im not seeing it anywhere in 
documentation


TOGs I dont mind a combination of text config for reference and full backup 
file.


TOGs In all likely hood a disaster restore would go to the
TOGs same model, I just dont want the backup file restoring the
TOGs original device MAC addresses


TOGs We have a linux backup server that pulls backups from
TOGs fortigates and imagestreams, but its a cumbersome process that I
TOGs dont really monitor anymore




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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

2015-07-03 Thread Mike Hammett
I would have suggest Observium, but 


Many are looking at LibreNMS as it is a fork of Observium before he went off 
the deep end. There's also NetXMS. My friend Tomas has been making how-to 
videos for NetXMS. 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkE_AGQZL9BVQs_3BzjIp1A/playlists 




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- Original Message -

From: Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 2:10:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options 

like what? 


On 7/3/2015 12:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



A comprehensive monitoring system that includes Rancid is the best way to go. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:20:16 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options 


I see a whole lot of options out there with scripts using mail, etc. Waht works 
well, whats cumbersome, simplified is good, alerting on backups not taking 
place is better. 


As best i can tell, if you do backup to a backup file, that can only be 
restored to the same device, or am I misunderstanding that? 


I thought the dude could pull backups, but Im not seeing it anywhere in 
documentation 


I dont mind a combination of text config for reference and full backup file. 


In all likely hood a disaster restore would go to the same model, I just dont 
want the backup file restoring the original device MAC addresses 


We have a linux backup server that pulls backups from fortigates and 
imagestreams, but its a cumbersome process that I dont really monitor anymore 


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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

2015-07-03 Thread Josh Luthman
I do text and binary backups.  Gives me everything.

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On Jul 3, 2015 1:20 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I see a whole lot of options out there with scripts using mail, etc. Waht
 works well, whats cumbersome, simplified is good, alerting on backups not
 taking place is better.

 As best i can tell, if you do backup to a backup file, that can only be
 restored to the same device, or am I misunderstanding that?

 I thought the dude could pull backups, but Im not seeing it anywhere in
 documentation

 I dont mind a combination of text config for reference and full backup
 file.

 In all likely hood a disaster restore would go to the same model, I just
 dont want the backup file restoring the original device MAC addresses

 We have a linux backup server that pulls backups from fortigates and
 imagestreams, but its a cumbersome process that I dont really monitor
 anymore

 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.



Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

2015-07-03 Thread Shayne Lebrun
We have an 'export compact' scripted to run every night, and have tftp
running on the mikrotiks.  A server goes through a list of IPs pulled from
our monitoring system, downloads the file from each one, renames the file to
the router name and date, sticks it in a directory.  The directory is pruned
for files more than 30 days old.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka
Technologies
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 1:31 PM
To: That One Guy /sarcasm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

I make an export (text) file and backup file every night.  Getting them off
the device you can push or pull.  Currently I have 3 different flavors
running on my system

1. Pull file via FTP using a program like PyroFTP

2. Push files from device to FTP server

3. Push files from device via e-mail


 



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Friday, July 3, 2015, 1:20:16 PM, you wrote:

TOGs I see a whole lot of options out there with scripts using mail, 
TOGs etc. Waht works well, whats cumbersome, simplified is good, 
TOGs alerting on backups not taking place is better.


TOGs As best i can tell, if you do backup to a backup file, that can 
TOGs only be restored to the same device, or am I misunderstanding 
TOGs that?


TOGs I thought the dude could pull backups, but Im not seeing it 
TOGs anywhere in documentation


TOGs I dont mind a combination of text config for reference and full backup
file.


TOGs In all likely hood a disaster restore would go to the same model, 
TOGs I just dont want the backup file restoring the original device MAC 
TOGs addresses


TOGs We have a linux backup server that pulls backups from fortigates 
TOGs and imagestreams, but its a cumbersome process that I dont really 
TOGs monitor anymore




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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

2015-07-03 Thread Darren Shea
We use a script which sends the backup file to an e-mail account, but yes, 
using the backup file can be tricky if the hardware is different, because the 
port numbers won’t match up. To get around that, I also wrote a script which 
uses export to list which addresses are on each port, and that also gets 
e-mailed to the backup e-mail account.

 

That basically works out to a text config companion to the backup file.

 

-   Darren

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

 

I see a whole lot of options out there with scripts using mail, etc. Waht works 
well, whats cumbersome, simplified is good, alerting on backups not taking 
place is better.

 

As best i can tell, if you do backup to a backup file, that can only be 
restored to the same device, or am I misunderstanding that?

 

I thought the dude could pull backups, but Im not seeing it anywhere in 
documentation

 

I dont mind a combination of text config for reference and full backup file.

 

In all likely hood a disaster restore would go to the same model, I just dont 
want the backup file restoring the original device MAC addresses

 

We have a linux backup server that pulls backups from fortigates and 
imagestreams, but its a cumbersome process that I dont really monitor anymore


 

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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

2015-07-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Here's a snippet of our conversation on Wednesday: 

python and expect are awesome 
its an automation tool 
how it works is - it interacts with other tools, such as ssh or ftp, or telnet 
so basicly, you write a python script using expect 
to for example, each night, log in to all your MikroTiks and do x if output of 
command y is z 
or for example, manipulate a firewall address list on 200 routers with one 
script run 
or for example, to login to the 200 mikrotiks, parse the output of /ip fi add 
exp 
and notify you if one of those 200 if different then the rest 
etc... 
I also use it to have one click RouterOS upgrade in NetXMS 
so when new routeros comes out, I click one button in NetXMS, and a particular 
router gets upgraded (like in the Dude) 
or I click a different button, and a group of x routers gets upgraded 
etc. 




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- Original Message -

From: Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 2:10:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options 

like what? 


On 7/3/2015 12:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



A comprehensive monitoring system that includes Rancid is the best way to go. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:20:16 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options 


I see a whole lot of options out there with scripts using mail, etc. Waht works 
well, whats cumbersome, simplified is good, alerting on backups not taking 
place is better. 


As best i can tell, if you do backup to a backup file, that can only be 
restored to the same device, or am I misunderstanding that? 


I thought the dude could pull backups, but Im not seeing it anywhere in 
documentation 


I dont mind a combination of text config for reference and full backup file. 


In all likely hood a disaster restore would go to the same model, I just dont 
want the backup file restoring the original device MAC addresses 


We have a linux backup server that pulls backups from fortigates and 
imagestreams, but its a cumbersome process that I dont really monitor anymore 


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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.