Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs
Dan, We don’t have a project manager or foreman either. Yes, you are correct most guys SHOULD know the area. However, I quickly came to learn that most guys DON’T. For example, can most guys give the actual address to a tower or grain leg? I found out that NO they cannot. Hell, I am a WISP owner and can’t. Several years ago, I created a document that is transported in the service trucks. It contains the names of each tower, address, GPS data, equipment on tower, height and local hospital name, address and phone number. In the event of an accident, this data can be quickly referenced. We do have ‘safety meeting’ sheets that list person in charge, weather, safety concerns in area and on tower. We also have a signature sheet for each person on site to acknowledge the meeting took place and they are aware of document to reference in the event of an emergency. (I can admit this sheet is rarely used unless we bring a third party in to help…at which point I require it to protect myself) In terms of towers, again you are correct. Tower certification is a big PROBLEM in our industry. I had a sales representative from Crown tell me our industry lacked safety requirements and installation standards. I couldn’t really argue that point given what I have seen. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White via Af Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs Tyson, Playing Devil’s advocate here. What do you discuss during the pre-climb safety meeting? It’s your network – and the average WISP network is regional (usually contained to one state). The guys you’re climbing with know where the closest hospitals are, what the capabilities of the local fire department is, what local fauna and flora to look out for, etc. etc. I guess its good prep to make sure that someone knows what the weather looks like today, and for the project manager (not that the average WISP seems to have a crew foreman on most climbs) to give out the tasks for the day. I never did one in my WISP days – because by the time we had rolled up to the site we all knew what to do to hit the ground running. On the cellular side, when you might visit a site once in your career at a company I see lots of value of the pre-climb meeting. Of course I didn’t get tower climbing certified until after I was done with my WISP days… which I hate to say is a problem for the industry in general. What you don’t know can certainly kill you in this line of work. In my integration days… was a whole different story. I’ve seen many integrators do them… but they are very uncommon in the WISP industry from my personal experience. I’d bet a group like Safety One could point you in the right direction to making an OSHA compliant plan for your WISP. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:51 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs For WISPs, you need to focus on the OSHA content related to construction. I require OHSA 10, at a minimum, for all employees now, including CPR CERT. Everyone in our industry should be doing a pre climb safety meeting as well but I have yet to see ANYONE do it. I'm not an expert here at all but that's what what I was taught from the cellular side. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We climb towers and are on roofs all day, which is why I asked. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 11/11/2014 02:15 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yes, but for manufacturing, not the WISP. From: Josh Reynolds via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:29 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com ; WISPA General List mailto:wirel...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs Has anybody had one of these done before? Do you know any resources specific to our industry that could help with this? Thanks -- Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS
Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs
http://www.wirelessestimator.com/emergency/ Fill out the form online, print it, and take it with you. Meets all of the OSHA requirements and it's easy. Mark On 11/12/14, 8:42 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af wrote: Dan, We don’t have a project manager or foreman either. Yes, you are correct most guys SHOULD know the area. However, I quickly came to learn that most guys DON’T. For example, can most guys give the actual address to a tower or grain leg? I found out that NO they cannot. Hell, I am a WISP owner and can’t. Several years ago, I created a document that is transported in the service trucks. It contains the names of each tower, address, GPS data, equipment on tower, height and local hospital name, address and phone number. In the event of an accident, this data can be quickly referenced. We do have ‘safety meeting’ sheets that list person in charge, weather, safety concerns in area and on tower. We also have a signature sheet for each person on site to acknowledge the meeting took place and they are aware of document to reference in the event of an emergency. (I can admit this sheet is rarely used unless we bring a third party in to help…at which point I require it to protect myself) In terms of towers, again you are correct. Tower certification is a big PROBLEM in our industry. I had a sales representative from Crown tell me our industry lacked safety requirements and installation standards. I couldn’t really argue that point given what I have seen. *Tyson Burris, President** **Internet Communications Inc.** **739 Commerce Dr.** **Franklin, IN 46131** *** *317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* ICI *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* ** *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.* *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs Tyson, Playing Devil’s advocate here. What do you discuss during the pre-climb safety meeting? It’s your network – and the average WISP network is regional (usually contained to one state). The guys you’re climbing with know where the closest hospitals are, what the capabilities of the local fire department is, what local fauna and flora to look out for, etc. etc. I guess its good prep to make sure that someone knows what the weather looks like today, and for the project manager (not that the average WISP seems to have a crew foreman on most climbs) to give out the tasks for the day. I never did one in my WISP days – because by the time we had rolled up to the site we all knew what to do to hit the ground running. On the cellular side, when you might visit a site once in your career at a company I see lots of value of the pre-climb meeting. Of course I didn’t get tower climbing certified until after I was done with my WISP days… which I hate to say is a problem for the industry in general. What you don’t know can certainly kill you in this line of work. In my integration days… was a whole different story. I’ve seen many integrators do them… but they are very uncommon in the WISP industry from my personal experience. I’d bet a group like Safety One could point you in the right direction to making an OSHA compliant plan for your WISP. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:51 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs For WISPs, you need to focus on the OSHA content related to construction. I require OHSA 10, at a minimum, for all employees now, including CPR CERT. Everyone in our industry should be doing a pre climb safety meeting as well but I have yet to see ANYONE do it. I'm not an expert here at all but that's what what I was taught from the cellular side. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We climb towers and are on roofs all day, which is why I asked. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 11/11/2014 02:15 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yes, but for manufacturing, not the WISP. *From:*Josh Reynolds via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:29 PM *To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com ; WISPA General List
Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs
If you're on the west coast be careful about requesting safety meetings with construction crew, or you may get more than you bargained for. :-) On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Dan, We don’t have a project manager or foreman either. Yes, you are correct most guys SHOULD know the area. However, I quickly came to learn that most guys DON’T. For example, can most guys give the actual address to a tower or grain leg? I found out that NO they cannot. Hell, I am a WISP owner and can’t. Several years ago, I created a document that is transported in the service trucks. It contains the names of each tower, address, GPS data, equipment on tower, height and local hospital name, address and phone number. In the event of an accident, this data can be quickly referenced. We do have ‘safety meeting’ sheets that list person in charge, weather, safety concerns in area and on tower. We also have a signature sheet for each person on site to acknowledge the meeting took place and they are aware of document to reference in the event of an emergency. (I can admit this sheet is rarely used unless we bring a third party in to help…at which point I require it to protect myself) In terms of towers, again you are correct. Tower certification is a big PROBLEM in our industry. I had a sales representative from Crown tell me our industry lacked safety requirements and installation standards. I couldn’t really argue that point given what I have seen. *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* http://www.surfici.net [image: ICI] *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.* *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs Tyson, Playing Devil’s advocate here. What do you discuss during the pre-climb safety meeting? It’s your network – and the average WISP network is regional (usually contained to one state). The guys you’re climbing with know where the closest hospitals are, what the capabilities of the local fire department is, what local fauna and flora to look out for, etc. etc. I guess its good prep to make sure that someone knows what the weather looks like today, and for the project manager (not that the average WISP seems to have a crew foreman on most climbs) to give out the tasks for the day. I never did one in my WISP days – because by the time we had rolled up to the site we all knew what to do to hit the ground running. On the cellular side, when you might visit a site once in your career at a company I see lots of value of the pre-climb meeting. Of course I didn’t get tower climbing certified until after I was done with my WISP days… which I hate to say is a problem for the industry in general. What you don’t know can certainly kill you in this line of work. In my integration days… was a whole different story. I’ve seen many integrators do them… but they are very uncommon in the WISP industry from my personal experience. I’d bet a group like Safety One could point you in the right direction to making an OSHA compliant plan for your WISP. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:51 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs For WISPs, you need to focus on the OSHA content related to construction. I require OHSA 10, at a minimum, for all employees now, including CPR CERT. Everyone in our industry should be doing a pre climb safety meeting as well but I have yet to see ANYONE do it. I'm not an expert here at all but that's what what I was taught from the cellular side. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We climb towers and are on roofs all day, which is why I asked. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 11/11/2014 02:15 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yes, but for manufacturing, not the WISP. *From:* Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:29 PM *To:* af@afmug.com ; WISPA General List wirel
[AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs
Has anybody had one of these done before? Do you know any resources specific to our industry that could help with this? Thanks -- Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs
Weclimb towers and are on roofs all day, which is why I asked. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 11/11/2014 02:15 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yes, but for manufacturing, not the WISP. *From:* Josh Reynolds via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:29 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com ; WISPA General List mailto:wirel...@wispa.org *Subject:* [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs Has anybody had one of these done before? Do you know any resources specific to our industry that could help with this? Thanks -- Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs
For WISPs, you need to focus on the OSHA content related to construction. I require OHSA 10, at a minimum, for all employees now, including CPR CERT. Everyone in our industry should be doing a pre climb safety meeting as well but I have yet to see ANYONE do it. I'm not an expert here at all but that's what what I was taught from the cellular side. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We climb towers and are on roofs all day, which is why I asked. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 11/11/2014 02:15 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yes, but for manufacturing, not the WISP. From: Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:29 PM To: af@afmug.com ; WISPA General List Subject: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs Has anybody had one of these done before? Do you know any resources specific to our industry that could help with this? Thanks -- Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs
Tyson, Playing Devil’s advocate here. What do you discuss during the pre-climb safety meeting? It’s your network – and the average WISP network is regional (usually contained to one state). The guys you’re climbing with know where the closest hospitals are, what the capabilities of the local fire department is, what local fauna and flora to look out for, etc. etc. I guess its good prep to make sure that someone knows what the weather looks like today, and for the project manager (not that the average WISP seems to have a crew foreman on most climbs) to give out the tasks for the day. I never did one in my WISP days – because by the time we had rolled up to the site we all knew what to do to hit the ground running. On the cellular side, when you might visit a site once in your career at a company I see lots of value of the pre-climb meeting. Of course I didn’t get tower climbing certified until after I was done with my WISP days… which I hate to say is a problem for the industry in general. What you don’t know can certainly kill you in this line of work. In my integration days… was a whole different story. I’ve seen many integrators do them… but they are very uncommon in the WISP industry from my personal experience. I’d bet a group like Safety One could point you in the right direction to making an OSHA compliant plan for your WISP. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs For WISPs, you need to focus on the OSHA content related to construction. I require OHSA 10, at a minimum, for all employees now, including CPR CERT. Everyone in our industry should be doing a pre climb safety meeting as well but I have yet to see ANYONE do it. I'm not an expert here at all but that's what what I was taught from the cellular side. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We climb towers and are on roofs all day, which is why I asked. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 11/11/2014 02:15 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yes, but for manufacturing, not the WISP. From: Josh Reynolds via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:29 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com ; WISPA General List mailto:wirel...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs Has anybody had one of these done before? Do you know any resources specific to our industry that could help with this? Thanks -- Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com
