Re: [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

[Chuck McCown]

I have never tried it on anything but water, but it always works on water 
lines.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 8:02 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

Works on buried lines.   Seen it done in project we did for fms Technologies 
years ago in Cotulla, Asherton, Encinal and Laredo, Texas by backhoe operator 
we hired to dig tower base and anchor pits.   He found telephone lines, gas 
,sewer and water pipes that didn't show up on school maintenance plans or known 
to them... It was cool to watch himkind of mystical...of course it's 
Aliens, it's always Aliens but seriously saved us allot of money and grief. 
 A contractor also working on this project cut under ground power line and shut 
down most of power in Carrizo Springs


Jaime Solorza

On Jan 26, 2018 6:42 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Thats water old man

  On Jan 26, 2018 6:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thin copper rods with 90 degree bend for handle with long part about 12 to 
14 inches ..put them loosely in fists pointing straight ahead...walk over 
intend area and if they detect anything, they will move inward and sometimes 
crisscross


Jaime Solorza

On Jan 26, 2018 12:27 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  I would not have any qualms about plowing parallel.  1 foot 2 feet.  
  If worried, get yourself a cheap cable locator and track it yourself.  

  If you hit them and they are not marked properly it is not your fault.  

  From: Jason McKemie 
  Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 12:21 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

  Does anyone have any suggestions on things to look out for when doing 
this?  I've noticed the locating of telephone cables is a bit sketchy around 
here to say the least, so it makes me nervous running long distances parallel 
with them.  I'll try for the opposite site of the road when possible, but 
sometimes that will mean crossing several driveways or other obstacles. 

  Thanks.

  -Jason

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Re: [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

[Jaime Solorza]

Works on buried lines.   Seen it done in project we did for fms
Technologies years ago in Cotulla, Asherton, Encinal and Laredo, Texas by
backhoe operator we hired to dig tower base and anchor pits.   He found
telephone lines, gas ,sewer and water pipes that didn't show up on school
maintenance plans or known to them... It was cool to watch himkind of
mystical...of course it's Aliens, it's always Aliens but seriously
saved us allot of money and grief.  A contractor also working on this
project cut under ground power line and shut down most of power in Carrizo
Springs

Jaime Solorza

On Jan 26, 2018 6:42 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thats water old man
>
> On Jan 26, 2018 6:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thin copper rods with 90 degree bend for handle with long part about 12
>> to 14 inches ..put them loosely in fists pointing straight ahead...walk
>> over intend area and if they detect anything, they will move inward and
>> sometimes crisscross
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2018 12:27 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would not have any qualms about plowing parallel.  1 foot 2 feet.
>>> If worried, get yourself a cheap cable locator and track it yourself.
>>>
>>> If you hit them and they are not marked properly it is not your fault.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 26, 2018 12:21 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions on things to look out for when doing
>>> this?  I've noticed the locating of telephone cables is a bit sketchy
>>> around here to say the least, so it makes me nervous running long distances
>>> parallel with them.  I'll try for the opposite site of the road when
>>> possible, but sometimes that will mean crossing several driveways or other
>>> obstacles.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> -Jason
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

[Chuck McCown]

I would not have any problem opening a ped and connecting a transmitter to a 
sheath connection.

Some of the Rycom transmitters and probably others will inductively couple into 
the cable by just setting the transmitter over the line.  

And you can also use the clamp-on inductive couplers if are uncomfortable in 
disconnecting a sheath ground wire.  

What is the worst thing that can happen?  Someone comes along and tells you to 
disconnect your transmitter.
I would rather a contractor have a transmitter on my cable while digging than 
not.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 6:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

How often do you daylight/hydrovac their line? In our area, other utilities 
recommend doing so every 30-50ft when you are going parallel to their lines, in 
the assumption that their line won't have any extreme deviations in that 
distance. 


As Chuck said, using your own cable locator is the another option as long as 
there are not too many other lines in the ground. Some utilities may allow you 
to clamp your cable locate transmitter onto their pedastals/etc to transmit 
into their lines; some won't officially "allow" it but their techs will look 
the other way if you're friendly with them. But you can always attach your 
transmitter to the locate/ground cable in the nearby NID of a customer you/that 
other provider share without anyone complaining.


On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Jason McKemie 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

  Does anyone have any suggestions on things to look out for when doing this?  
I've noticed the locating of telephone cables is a bit sketchy around here to 
say the least, so it makes me nervous running long distances parallel with 
them.  I'll try for the opposite site of the road when possible, but sometimes 
that will mean crossing several driveways or other obstacles. 

  Thanks.

  -Jason

   Virus-free. www.avast.com  

Re: [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

[Steve Jones]

Thats water old man

On Jan 26, 2018 6:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thin copper rods with 90 degree bend for handle with long part about 12 to
> 14 inches ..put them loosely in fists pointing straight ahead...walk over
> intend area and if they detect anything, they will move inward and
> sometimes crisscross
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Jan 26, 2018 12:27 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I would not have any qualms about plowing parallel.  1 foot 2 feet.
>> If worried, get yourself a cheap cable locator and track it yourself.
>>
>> If you hit them and they are not marked properly it is not your fault.
>>
>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 26, 2018 12:21 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on things to look out for when doing
>> this?  I've noticed the locating of telephone cables is a bit sketchy
>> around here to say the least, so it makes me nervous running long distances
>> parallel with them.  I'll try for the opposite site of the road when
>> possible, but sometimes that will mean crossing several driveways or other
>> obstacles.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Jason
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

[Colin Stanners]

How often do you daylight/hydrovac their line? In our area, other utilities
recommend doing so every 30-50ft when you are going parallel to their
lines, in the assumption that their line won't have any extreme deviations
in that distance.

As Chuck said, using your own cable locator is the another option as long
as there are not too many other lines in the ground. Some utilities may
allow you to clamp your cable locate transmitter onto their pedastals/etc
to transmit into their lines; some won't officially "allow" it but their
techs will look the other way if you're friendly with them. But you can
always attach your transmitter to the locate/ground cable in the nearby NID
of a customer you/that other provider share without anyone complaining.

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have any suggestions on things to look out for when doing
> this?  I've noticed the locating of telephone cables is a bit sketchy
> around here to say the least, so it makes me nervous running long distances
> parallel with them.  I'll try for the opposite site of the road when
> possible, but sometimes that will mean crossing several driveways or other
> obstacles.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Jason
>
>
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

[Jaime Solorza]

Thin copper rods with 90 degree bend for handle with long part about 12 to
14 inches ..put them loosely in fists pointing straight ahead...walk over
intend area and if they detect anything, they will move inward and
sometimes crisscross

Jaime Solorza

On Jan 26, 2018 12:27 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I would not have any qualms about plowing parallel.  1 foot 2 feet.
> If worried, get yourself a cheap cable locator and track it yourself.
>
> If you hit them and they are not marked properly it is not your fault.
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, January 26, 2018 12:21 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on things to look out for when doing
> this?  I've noticed the locating of telephone cables is a bit sketchy
> around here to say the least, so it makes me nervous running long distances
> parallel with them.  I'll try for the opposite site of the road when
> possible, but sometimes that will mean crossing several driveways or other
> obstacles.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Jason
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

[chuck]

I would not have any qualms about plowing parallel.  1 foot 2 feet.  
If worried, get yourself a cheap cable locator and track it yourself.  

If you hit them and they are not marked properly it is not your fault.  

From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 12:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

Does anyone have any suggestions on things to look out for when doing this?  
I've noticed the locating of telephone cables is a bit sketchy around here to 
say the least, so it makes me nervous running long distances parallel with 
them.  I'll try for the opposite site of the road when possible, but sometimes 
that will mean crossing several driveways or other obstacles. 

Thanks.

-Jason

 Virus-free. www.avast.com  

[AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

[Jason McKemie]

Does anyone have any suggestions on things to look out for when doing
this?  I've noticed the locating of telephone cables is a bit sketchy
around here to say the least, so it makes me nervous running long distances
parallel with them.  I'll try for the opposite site of the road when
possible, but sometimes that will mean crossing several driveways or other
obstacles.

Thanks.

-Jason


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