Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Chuck McCown]

Not sure if we are back to offending Ivan or looking at containers full of 
batteries.
Containers are a magnet for thieves.  They just cannot pass one up.  Weld in a 
new door with a steel frame and steel door.  


From: Zach Underwood 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

follow up to this. The batteries are in there new home. 
More info here at my site 
https://mycontainerhome.org/solar-and-the-break-in-3-29-2017/ 


On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Ivan Kohler  wrote:

  On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 08:51:18PM +, Mathew Howard wrote:
  > Is it okay to jew people down if they're jews? or if you're a jew? :P
  > And does it offend actual jews to call it jewing,

  Yes.  Would you use the N word as a derogatory verb?

  I seriously can't believe what I'm reading.

  --
  Ivan Kohler
  President and Head Geek, Freeside Internet Services, Inc.  
http://freeside.biz/
  Debian GNU/Linux developer  |  CPAN author  |  cat person  |  ski addict





-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) 
My website

advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Zach Underwood]

follow up to this. The batteries are in there new home.
More info here at my site
https://mycontainerhome.org/solar-and-the-break-in-3-29-2017/

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Ivan Kohler 
wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 08:51:18PM +, Mathew Howard wrote:
> > Is it okay to jew people down if they're jews? or if you're a jew? :P
> > And does it offend actual jews to call it jewing,
>
> Yes.  Would you use the N word as a derogatory verb?
>
> I seriously can't believe what I'm reading.
>
> --
> Ivan Kohler
> President and Head Geek, Freeside Internet Services, Inc.
> http://freeside.biz/
> Debian GNU/Linux developer  |  CPAN author  |  cat person  |  ski addict
>



-- 
Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
My website 
advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Ivan Kohler]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 08:51:18PM +, Mathew Howard wrote:
> Is it okay to jew people down if they're jews? or if you're a jew? :P
> And does it offend actual jews to call it jewing,

Yes.  Would you use the N word as a derogatory verb?

I seriously can't believe what I'm reading.

-- 
Ivan Kohler
President and Head Geek, Freeside Internet Services, Inc.  http://freeside.biz/
Debian GNU/Linux developer  |  CPAN author  |  cat person  |  ski addict

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Trey Scarborough]

I can tell you I took an hour trying to explain this term to my wife, 
who is Israeli. After an hour I gave up because either she didn't 
understand the term in reference. I attribute this to her either not 
understanding it because that is just how you purchase things, and there 
is not comprehension of another way. That or she didn't understand how 
someone would be offended by that association because why would you be 
offended by an association that means that your culture is 
representative of not being a dumb ass and paying to much.


On 1/30/2017 2:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Is it okay to jew people down if they're jews? or if you're a jew? :P
And does it offend actual jews to call it jewing, or just other people?

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I “jew” people down all the time.  Most of the the time I don’t tell
them I am “jewing” them down.  But that is what I am doing.  One old
Jew, Marvin, I tell him I am gonna jew him down.  Sometimes he jews
me down.

*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 12:23 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

Wow...You did not just go there ? "Jew" .Damn!!

On Jan 30, 2017 11:24 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
 wrote:

recycling value may halve your costs if theyre no good, its a
good risk probably. while youre picking them up you can probably
jew some other stuff out of the guy

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck McCown 
wrote:

Good point, if they have been stone dead and sitting outside
all this time they are scrap metal.

*From:* Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 11:18 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?


So these are C&D brand AGM batteries?



What have they been doing since 2014?  Sitting on a pallet?
Being float charged?  In service in said 3 Phase UPS?
Depending on shipping cost, it sounds like a remarkable
deal, but not if they have been charged and discharged for
2-3 years worth of power outages.



I have bought new-old-stock AGM telecom batteries that sat
on pallets for 12 months, and they required almost no
charging to bring them up to full state of charge.  (I think
after a year from date of manufacturer they can’t be sold as
new anymore.)  Flooded cell batteries would be a different
story if they were just sitting there discharging since
2014, they would probably be totally discharged.





*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Zach
Underwood
*Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 12:07 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] batteries good deal?



I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone
that is selling the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are
36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I think that I could get the
whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date of
manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal.




-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)

My website <http://zachunderwood.me>

advance-networking.com <http://advance-networking.com>




--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of
the team.

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Mike Hammett]

There isn't much significantly different amongst Judeo-Christian-Islamic 
religions. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jaime Solorza"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:36:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal? 


Hum... Interesting,I personally would not change my religious beliefs for 
marriage or anything elseI know lots change theirs as often as they change 
bed sheetsNever heard of a Jewish MormonGo figure... 


On Jan 30, 2017 2:26 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



more common than you think... as long as you think 


On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 


I'm trying to visualize how this could happen.. 


bp 
 



On 1/30/2017 1:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: 


I have an alt-right jew/mormon son 









-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

its brave new world


On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> He didn’t change for her.  He changed and then met her.
>
> As a matter of fact, if he can prove his linage to Aaron, he can claim the
> office of Bishop by birthright in the Mormon Church.
> That is something only available to Jews.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 2:36 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>
> Hum... Interesting,I personally would not change my religious beliefs
> for marriage or anything elseI know lots change theirs as often as they
> change bed sheetsNever heard of a Jewish MormonGo figure...
>
> On Jan 30, 2017 2:26 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> more common than you think... as long as you think
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to visualize how this could happen..
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/30/2017 1:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have an alt-right jew/mormon son
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Chuck McCown]

He didn’t change for her.  He changed and then met her.  

As a matter of fact, if he can prove his linage to Aaron, he can claim the 
office of Bishop by birthright in the Mormon Church.  
That is something only available to Jews.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

Hum... Interesting,I personally would not change my religious beliefs for 
marriage or anything elseI know lots change theirs as often as they change 
bed sheetsNever heard of a Jewish MormonGo figure...

On Jan 30, 2017 2:26 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
wrote:

  more common than you think... as long as you think

  On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

I'm trying to visualize how this could happen..


bp
 


On 1/30/2017 1:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  I have an alt-right jew/mormon son 







  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Jaime Solorza]

Hum... Interesting,I personally would not change my religious beliefs
for marriage or anything elseI know lots change theirs as often as they
change bed sheetsNever heard of a Jewish MormonGo figure...

On Jan 30, 2017 2:26 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> more common than you think... as long as you think
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to visualize how this could happen..
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 1/30/2017 1:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>> I have an alt-right jew/mormon son
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

more common than you think... as long as you think

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> I'm trying to visualize how this could happen..
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 1/30/2017 1:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>> I have an alt-right jew/mormon son
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Chuck McCown]

A Jewish Lawyer, married my daughter, and converted to the Mormon Church 
before doing so.


He works in the Wyoming government and has drunk deeply at the well of all 
things Trump.


Makes for an interesting dynamic with one of my other daughters that lives 
in England with her liberal Mormon Bishop husband and English dual 
citizenship offspring and is very much a UK Liberal.


-Original Message- 
From: Bill Prince

Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 2:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

I'm trying to visualize how this could happen..


bp


On 1/30/2017 1:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I have an alt-right jew/mormon son

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Bill Prince]

I'm trying to visualize how this could happen..


bp


On 1/30/2017 1:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have an alt-right jew/mormon son 

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Chuck McCown]

I have an alt-right jew/mormon son in law.  I am pretty sure you cannot offend 
him with a nuclear bomb.  

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 1:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

most of the jews i know tell me never to jew them, not because its offensive, 
but because of the catastrophic loss i would see, I just call them a you people 
and pay full price

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

  Is it okay to jew people down if they're jews? or if you're a jew? :P
  And does it offend actual jews to call it jewing, or just other people?


  On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

I “jew” people down all the time.  Most of the the time I don’t tell them I 
am “jewing” them down.  But that is what I am doing.  One old Jew, Marvin, I 
tell him I am gonna jew him down.  Sometimes he jews me down.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:23 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

Wow...You did not just go there ? "Jew" .Damn!!

On Jan 30, 2017 11:24 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:

  recycling value may halve your costs if theyre no good, its a good risk 
probably. while youre picking them up you can probably jew some other stuff out 
of the guy

  On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Good point, if they have been stone dead and sitting outside all this 
time they are scrap metal.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

So these are C&D brand AGM batteries?



What have they been doing since 2014?  Sitting on a pallet?  Being 
float charged?  In service in said 3 Phase UPS?  Depending on shipping cost, it 
sounds like a remarkable deal, but not if they have been charged and discharged 
for 2-3 years worth of power outages.



I have bought new-old-stock AGM telecom batteries that sat on pallets 
for 12 months, and they required almost no charging to bring them up to full 
state of charge.  (I think after a year from date of manufacturer they can’t be 
sold as new anymore.)  Flooded cell batteries would be a different story if 
they were just sitting there discharging since 2014, they would probably be 
totally discharged.





From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Zach Underwood
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?



I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is 
selling the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 
78AH) I think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a 
date of manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal. 




-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)

My website

advance-networking.com





  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

most of the jews i know tell me never to jew them, not because its
offensive, but because of the catastrophic loss i would see, I just call
them a you people and pay full price

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Is it okay to jew people down if they're jews? or if you're a jew? :P
> And does it offend actual jews to call it jewing, or just other people?
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I “jew” people down all the time.  Most of the the time I don’t tell them
>> I am “jewing” them down.  But that is what I am doing.  One old Jew,
>> Marvin, I tell him I am gonna jew him down.  Sometimes he jews me down.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 12:23 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>>
>> Wow...You did not just go there ? "Jew" .Damn!!
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2017 11:24 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> recycling value may halve your costs if theyre no good, its a good risk
>>> probably. while youre picking them up you can probably jew some other stuff
>>> out of the guy
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good point, if they have been stone dead and sitting outside all this
>>>> time they are scrap metal.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 11:18 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So these are C&D brand AGM batteries?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What have they been doing since 2014?  Sitting on a pallet?  Being
>>>> float charged?  In service in said 3 Phase UPS?  Depending on shipping
>>>> cost, it sounds like a remarkable deal, but not if they have been charged
>>>> and discharged for 2-3 years worth of power outages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have bought new-old-stock AGM telecom batteries that sat on pallets
>>>> for 12 months, and they required almost no charging to bring them up to
>>>> full state of charge.  (I think after a year from date of manufacturer they
>>>> can’t be sold as new anymore.)  Flooded cell batteries would be a different
>>>> story if they were just sitting there discharging since 2014, they would
>>>> probably be totally discharged.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Zach Underwood
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 12:07 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is
>>>> selling the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at
>>>> 78AH) I think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have
>>>> a date of manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
>>>>
>>>> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
>>>>
>>>> advance-networking.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Mathew Howard]

Is it okay to jew people down if they're jews? or if you're a jew? :P
And does it offend actual jews to call it jewing, or just other people?

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I “jew” people down all the time.  Most of the the time I don’t tell them
> I am “jewing” them down.  But that is what I am doing.  One old Jew,
> Marvin, I tell him I am gonna jew him down.  Sometimes he jews me down.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 12:23 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>
> Wow...You did not just go there ? "Jew" .Damn!!
>
> On Jan 30, 2017 11:24 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> recycling value may halve your costs if theyre no good, its a good risk
>> probably. while youre picking them up you can probably jew some other stuff
>> out of the guy
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Good point, if they have been stone dead and sitting outside all this
>>> time they are scrap metal.
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 11:18 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>>>
>>>
>>> So these are C&D brand AGM batteries?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What have they been doing since 2014?  Sitting on a pallet?  Being float
>>> charged?  In service in said 3 Phase UPS?  Depending on shipping cost, it
>>> sounds like a remarkable deal, but not if they have been charged and
>>> discharged for 2-3 years worth of power outages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have bought new-old-stock AGM telecom batteries that sat on pallets
>>> for 12 months, and they required almost no charging to bring them up to
>>> full state of charge.  (I think after a year from date of manufacturer they
>>> can’t be sold as new anymore.)  Flooded cell batteries would be a different
>>> story if they were just sitting there discharging since 2014, they would
>>> probably be totally discharged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Zach Underwood
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 12:07 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling
>>> the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I
>>> think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date
>>> of manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
>>>
>>> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
>>>
>>> advance-networking.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Chuck McCown]

You did, heck I can help you double your money and you don’t have to do 
anything!

From: Zach Underwood 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

talked with the selling and I am going to look at it tonight.  

Here is the deal
1. battery cabinet with high amp dc fuse/disconnect
2. all of the jumper cables
3. 36x battery

The seller said that the batteries was installed in about 2015 for a tv station 
and last last year they upgraded to a larger UPS.

I feel like I hit the jackpot. :)   

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  I “jew” people down all the time.  Most of the the time I don’t tell them I 
am “jewing” them down.  But that is what I am doing.  One old Jew, Marvin, I 
tell him I am gonna jew him down.  Sometimes he jews me down.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:23 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

  Wow...You did not just go there ? "Jew" .Damn!!

  On Jan 30, 2017 11:24 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
wrote:

recycling value may halve your costs if theyre no good, its a good risk 
probably. while youre picking them up you can probably jew some other stuff out 
of the guy

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Good point, if they have been stone dead and sitting outside all this 
time they are scrap metal.  

  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:18 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

  So these are C&D brand AGM batteries?



  What have they been doing since 2014?  Sitting on a pallet?  Being float 
charged?  In service in said 3 Phase UPS?  Depending on shipping cost, it 
sounds like a remarkable deal, but not if they have been charged and discharged 
for 2-3 years worth of power outages.



  I have bought new-old-stock AGM telecom batteries that sat on pallets for 
12 months, and they required almost no charging to bring them up to full state 
of charge.  (I think after a year from date of manufacturer they can’t be sold 
as new anymore.)  Flooded cell batteries would be a different story if they 
were just sitting there discharging since 2014, they would probably be totally 
discharged.





  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Zach Underwood
  Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:07 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?



  I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling 
the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I 
think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date of 
manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal. 




  -- 

  Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)

  My website

  advance-networking.com





-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) 
My website

advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Zach Underwood]

talked with the selling and I am going to look at it tonight.

Here is the deal
1. battery cabinet with high amp dc fuse/disconnect
2. all of the jumper cables
3. 36x battery

The seller said that the batteries was installed in about 2015 for a tv
station and last last year they upgraded to a larger UPS.

I feel like I hit the jackpot. :)

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I “jew” people down all the time.  Most of the the time I don’t tell them
> I am “jewing” them down.  But that is what I am doing.  One old Jew,
> Marvin, I tell him I am gonna jew him down.  Sometimes he jews me down.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 12:23 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>
> Wow...You did not just go there ? "Jew" .Damn!!
>
> On Jan 30, 2017 11:24 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> recycling value may halve your costs if theyre no good, its a good risk
>> probably. while youre picking them up you can probably jew some other stuff
>> out of the guy
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Good point, if they have been stone dead and sitting outside all this
>>> time they are scrap metal.
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 11:18 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>>>
>>>
>>> So these are C&D brand AGM batteries?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What have they been doing since 2014?  Sitting on a pallet?  Being float
>>> charged?  In service in said 3 Phase UPS?  Depending on shipping cost, it
>>> sounds like a remarkable deal, but not if they have been charged and
>>> discharged for 2-3 years worth of power outages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have bought new-old-stock AGM telecom batteries that sat on pallets
>>> for 12 months, and they required almost no charging to bring them up to
>>> full state of charge.  (I think after a year from date of manufacturer they
>>> can’t be sold as new anymore.)  Flooded cell batteries would be a different
>>> story if they were just sitting there discharging since 2014, they would
>>> probably be totally discharged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Zach Underwood
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 12:07 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling
>>> the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I
>>> think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date
>>> of manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
>>>
>>> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
>>>
>>> advance-networking.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Chuck McCown]

I “jew” people down all the time.  Most of the the time I don’t tell them I am 
“jewing” them down.  But that is what I am doing.  One old Jew, Marvin, I tell 
him I am gonna jew him down.  Sometimes he jews me down.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:23 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

Wow...You did not just go there ? "Jew" .Damn!!

On Jan 30, 2017 11:24 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
wrote:

  recycling value may halve your costs if theyre no good, its a good risk 
probably. while youre picking them up you can probably jew some other stuff out 
of the guy

  On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Good point, if they have been stone dead and sitting outside all this time 
they are scrap metal.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

So these are C&D brand AGM batteries?



What have they been doing since 2014?  Sitting on a pallet?  Being float 
charged?  In service in said 3 Phase UPS?  Depending on shipping cost, it 
sounds like a remarkable deal, but not if they have been charged and discharged 
for 2-3 years worth of power outages.



I have bought new-old-stock AGM telecom batteries that sat on pallets for 
12 months, and they required almost no charging to bring them up to full state 
of charge.  (I think after a year from date of manufacturer they can’t be sold 
as new anymore.)  Flooded cell batteries would be a different story if they 
were just sitting there discharging since 2014, they would probably be totally 
discharged.





From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Zach Underwood
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?



I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling 
the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I 
think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date of 
manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal. 




-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)

My website

advance-networking.com





  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Jaime Solorza]

Wow...You did not just go there ? "Jew" .Damn!!

On Jan 30, 2017 11:24 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> recycling value may halve your costs if theyre no good, its a good risk
> probably. while youre picking them up you can probably jew some other stuff
> out of the guy
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Good point, if they have been stone dead and sitting outside all this
>> time they are scrap metal.
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 11:18 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>>
>>
>> So these are C&D brand AGM batteries?
>>
>>
>>
>> What have they been doing since 2014?  Sitting on a pallet?  Being float
>> charged?  In service in said 3 Phase UPS?  Depending on shipping cost, it
>> sounds like a remarkable deal, but not if they have been charged and
>> discharged for 2-3 years worth of power outages.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have bought new-old-stock AGM telecom batteries that sat on pallets for
>> 12 months, and they required almost no charging to bring them up to full
>> state of charge.  (I think after a year from date of manufacturer they
>> can’t be sold as new anymore.)  Flooded cell batteries would be a different
>> story if they were just sitting there discharging since 2014, they would
>> probably be totally discharged.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Zach Underwood
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 12:07 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling
>> the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I
>> think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date
>> of manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
>>
>> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
>>
>> advance-networking.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Chuck McCown]

I’ll take the UPS if you don’t want it.  

From: Zach Underwood 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

The ad said that the UPS was in service until the end of 2016. The batteries 
are now on a wooden pallet in a warehouse. I have emailed the buyer to see if 
he would sell just the batteries, right now the ad includes a 100KVA 120/208V 
UPS. I have no need for the UPS but would LOVE to get the batteries. 

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Zach Underwood  wrote:

  No they are local only would need to rent a uhaul to pick them up. The wight 
would be about 2,100lb.

  On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

12V x 78aH =936 watt hour x 36= 33693 watt hours of battery.  

I feel 15 cents per watt hour is a good deal.  
That is a $5K battery.  So if it is any good, get it quick before someone 
else does.  


From: Zach Underwood 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling 
the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I 
think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date of 
manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal. 


-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) 
My website

advance-networking.com





  -- 

  Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) 
  My website

  advance-networking.com





-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) 
My website

advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Zach Underwood]

The ad said that the UPS was in service until the end of 2016.
The batteries are now on a wooden pallet in a warehouse. I have emailed the
buyer to see if he would sell just the batteries, right now the ad includes
a 100KVA 120/208V UPS. I have no need for the UPS but would LOVE to get the
batteries.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Zach Underwood 
wrote:

> No they are local only would need to rent a uhaul to pick them up. The
> wight would be about 2,100lb.
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> 12V x 78aH =936 watt hour x 36= 33693 watt hours of battery.
>>
>> I feel 15 cents per watt hour is a good deal.
>> That is a $5K battery.  So if it is any good, get it quick before someone
>> else does.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Zach Underwood
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 11:07 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>>
>> I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling
>> the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I
>> think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date
>> of manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal.
>>
>> --
>> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
>> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
>> advance-networking.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
> advance-networking.com
>



-- 
Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

recycling value may halve your costs if theyre no good, its a good risk
probably. while youre picking them up you can probably jew some other stuff
out of the guy

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Good point, if they have been stone dead and sitting outside all this time
> they are scrap metal.
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 11:18 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>
>
> So these are C&D brand AGM batteries?
>
>
>
> What have they been doing since 2014?  Sitting on a pallet?  Being float
> charged?  In service in said 3 Phase UPS?  Depending on shipping cost, it
> sounds like a remarkable deal, but not if they have been charged and
> discharged for 2-3 years worth of power outages.
>
>
>
> I have bought new-old-stock AGM telecom batteries that sat on pallets for
> 12 months, and they required almost no charging to bring them up to full
> state of charge.  (I think after a year from date of manufacturer they
> can’t be sold as new anymore.)  Flooded cell batteries would be a different
> story if they were just sitting there discharging since 2014, they would
> probably be totally discharged.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Zach Underwood
> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 12:07 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>
>
>
> I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling
> the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I
> think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date
> of manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
>
> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
>
> advance-networking.com
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Chuck McCown]

Good point, if they have been stone dead and sitting outside all this time they 
are scrap metal.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

So these are C&D brand AGM batteries?

 

What have they been doing since 2014?  Sitting on a pallet?  Being float 
charged?  In service in said 3 Phase UPS?  Depending on shipping cost, it 
sounds like a remarkable deal, but not if they have been charged and discharged 
for 2-3 years worth of power outages.

 

I have bought new-old-stock AGM telecom batteries that sat on pallets for 12 
months, and they required almost no charging to bring them up to full state of 
charge.  (I think after a year from date of manufacturer they can’t be sold as 
new anymore.)  Flooded cell batteries would be a different story if they were 
just sitting there discharging since 2014, they would probably be totally 
discharged.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Zach Underwood
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

 

I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling the 
batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I think 
that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date of 
manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal. 


 

-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)

My website

advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Zach Underwood]

No they are local only would need to rent a uhaul to pick them up. The
wight would be about 2,100lb.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> 12V x 78aH =936 watt hour x 36= 33693 watt hours of battery.
>
> I feel 15 cents per watt hour is a good deal.
> That is a $5K battery.  So if it is any good, get it quick before someone
> else does.
>
>
> *From:* Zach Underwood
> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 11:07 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] batteries good deal?
>
> I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling
> the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I
> think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date
> of manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal.
>
> --
> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
> advance-networking.com
>



-- 
Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Ken Hohhof]

So these are C&D brand AGM batteries?

 

What have they been doing since 2014?  Sitting on a pallet?  Being float 
charged?  In service in said 3 Phase UPS?  Depending on shipping cost, it 
sounds like a remarkable deal, but not if they have been charged and discharged 
for 2-3 years worth of power outages.

 

I have bought new-old-stock AGM telecom batteries that sat on pallets for 12 
months, and they required almost no charging to bring them up to full state of 
charge.  (I think after a year from date of manufacturer they can’t be sold as 
new anymore.)  Flooded cell batteries would be a different story if they were 
just sitting there discharging since 2014, they would probably be totally 
discharged.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Zach Underwood
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

 

I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling the 
batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I think 
that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date of 
manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal. 


 

-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)

My website <http://zachunderwood.me> 

advance-networking.com <http://advance-networking.com> 

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Chuck McCown]

12V x 78aH =936 watt hour x 36= 33693 watt hours of battery.  

I feel 15 cents per watt hour is a good deal.  
That is a $5K battery.  So if it is any good, get it quick before someone else 
does.  


From: Zach Underwood 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling the 
batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I think 
that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date of 
manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal. 


-- 

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) 
My website

advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

shipping?

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Zach Underwood 
wrote:

> I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling
> the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I
> think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date
> of manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal.
>
> --
> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
> My website 
> advance-networking.com
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] batteries good deal?

[Zach Underwood]

I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling
the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I
think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date
of manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal.

-- 
Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
My website 
advance-networking.com