Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-11 Thread Josh Reynolds 
The first rule of that thing you said, is you don't talk about that thing
you said


:-)

On Feb 10, 2017 6:58 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Because Gino is a member of new exciting products cognoscenti, that's
> why...
>
> On Feb 10, 2017 5:48 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Gino uses a large number of different gear.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017, 5:51 PM Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gino I thought you were a SAF man. ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jon Bruce <
>>> jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 1:36:18 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S
>>> Yes. Piping Hot still shows up in some MAC lookups.
>>>
>>> On 2/10/2017 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> I remember my first PTP400 link I went out of my way to buy from
>>> Orthogon, rather than the relabeled Motorola version.  It was just a matter
>>> of weeks and the press release came out that Motorola had bought them.
>>> Wasn’t the legal name something like Piping Hot Networks Ltd.?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 1:20 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SAF is excellent in this regard, and the warranty is a relatively
>>> inexpensive insurance policy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cambium has never been as shitty to customers as motorola, but pretty
>>> close
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/10/17 10:36, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/10/17 10:32, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>>
>>> Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from
>>> factory.  I have to wait 30 days for replacement� geez�
>>>
>>> So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what
>>> happens wen you relabel Ceragon�
>>>
>>> My MW business is going elsewhere�
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think 6GHz band gear is highly stocked by anyone. Why didn't you
>>> buy spares? =P
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually I should correct myself in that SAF will stock spares if you
>>> pay for their next day replacement plan. Otherwise you have to send it back
>>> to them for repair with a turnaround of about 4 weeks.
>>>
>>> ~Seth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread Jaime Solorza 
Because Gino is a member of new exciting products cognoscenti, that's
why...

On Feb 10, 2017 5:48 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gino uses a large number of different gear.
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017, 5:51 PM Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Gino I thought you were a SAF man. ;)
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jon Bruce <
>> jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 1:36:18 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S
>> Yes. Piping Hot still shows up in some MAC lookups.
>>
>> On 2/10/2017 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> I remember my first PTP400 link I went out of my way to buy from
>> Orthogon, rather than the relabeled Motorola version.  It was just a matter
>> of weeks and the press release came out that Motorola had bought them.
>> Wasn’t the legal name something like Piping Hot Networks Ltd.?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 1:20 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S
>>
>>
>>
>> SAF is excellent in this regard, and the warranty is a relatively
>> inexpensive insurance policy
>>
>>
>>
>> Cambium has never been as shitty to customers as motorola, but pretty
>> close
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/10/17 10:36, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>
>> On 2/10/17 10:32, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>
>> Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from
>> factory.  I have to wait 30 days for replacement� geez�
>>
>> So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what
>> happens wen you relabel Ceragon�
>>
>> My MW business is going elsewhere�
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think 6GHz band gear is highly stocked by anyone. Why didn't you
>> buy spares? =P
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually I should correct myself in that SAF will stock spares if you pay
>> for their next day replacement plan. Otherwise you have to send it back to
>> them for repair with a turnaround of about 4 weeks.
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread Lewis Bergman 
Gino uses a large number of different gear.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017, 5:51 PM Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com>
wrote:

> Gino I thought you were a SAF man. ;)
>
>
> --
> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jon Bruce <
> jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 1:36:18 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S
> Yes. Piping Hot still shows up in some MAC lookups.
>
> On 2/10/2017 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> I remember my first PTP400 link I went out of my way to buy from Orthogon,
> rather than the relabeled Motorola version.  It was just a matter of weeks
> and the press release came out that Motorola had bought them.  Wasn’t the
> legal name something like Piping Hot Networks Ltd.?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 1:20 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S
>
>
>
> SAF is excellent in this regard, and the warranty is a relatively
> inexpensive insurance policy
>
>
>
> Cambium has never been as shitty to customers as motorola, but pretty close
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us>
> wrote:
>
> On 2/10/17 10:36, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>
> On 2/10/17 10:32, Gino Villarini wrote:
>
> Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from
> factory.  I have to wait 30 days for replacement� geez�
>
> So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what
> happens wen you relabel Ceragon�
>
> My MW business is going elsewhere�
>
>
>
> I don't think 6GHz band gear is highly stocked by anyone. Why didn't you
> buy spares? =P
>
>
>
> Actually I should correct myself in that SAF will stock spares if you pay
> for their next day replacement plan. Otherwise you have to send it back to
> them for repair with a turnaround of about 4 weeks.
>
> ~Seth
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread Craig Schmaderer 
Gino I thought you were a SAF man. ;)



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jon Bruce 
<jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 1:36:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

Yes. Piping Hot still shows up in some MAC lookups.

On 2/10/2017 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I remember my first PTP400 link I went out of my way to buy from Orthogon, 
rather than the relabeled Motorola version.  It was just a matter of weeks and 
the press release came out that Motorola had bought them.  Wasn’t the legal 
name something like Piping Hot Networks Ltd.?


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 1:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

SAF is excellent in this regard, and the warranty is a relatively inexpensive 
insurance policy

Cambium has never been as shitty to customers as motorola, but pretty close



On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Seth Mattinen 
<se...@rollernet.us<mailto:se...@rollernet.us>> wrote:
On 2/10/17 10:36, Seth Mattinen wrote:
On 2/10/17 10:32, Gino Villarini wrote:
Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from
factory.  I have to wait 30 days for replacement� geez�

So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what
happens wen you relabel Ceragon�

My MW business is going elsewhere�


I don't think 6GHz band gear is highly stocked by anyone. Why didn't you
buy spares? =P


Actually I should correct myself in that SAF will stock spares if you pay for 
their next day replacement plan. Otherwise you have to send it back to them for 
repair with a turnaround of about 4 weeks.

~Seth



--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread Jon Bruce 

Yes. Piping Hot still shows up in some MAC lookups.

On 2/10/2017 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


I remember my first PTP400 link I went out of my way to buy from 
Orthogon, rather than the relabeled Motorola version. It was just a 
matter of weeks and the press release came out that Motorola had 
bought them.  Wasn’t the legal name something like Piping Hot Networks 
Ltd.?


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy 
/sarcasm

*Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 1:20 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

SAF is excellent in this regard, and the warranty is a relatively 
inexpensive insurance policy


Cambium has never been as shitty to customers as motorola, but pretty 
close


On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us 
<mailto:se...@rollernet.us>> wrote:


On 2/10/17 10:36, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 2/10/17 10:32, Gino Villarini wrote:

Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came
faulty from
factory.  I have to wait 30 days for replacement� geez�

So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess
this is what
happens wen you relabel Ceragon�

My MW business is going elsewhere�



I don't think 6GHz band gear is highly stocked by anyone. Why
didn't you
buy spares? =P



Actually I should correct myself in that SAF will stock spares if
you pay for their next day replacement plan. Otherwise you have to
send it back to them for repair with a turnaround of about 4 weeks.

~Seth



--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread Ken Hohhof 
I remember my first PTP400 link I went out of my way to buy from Orthogon, 
rather than the relabeled Motorola version.  It was just a matter of weeks and 
the press release came out that Motorola had bought them.  Wasn’t the legal 
name something like Piping Hot Networks Ltd.?

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 1:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

 

SAF is excellent in this regard, and the warranty is a relatively inexpensive 
insurance policy

 

Cambium has never been as shitty to customers as motorola, but pretty close

 

 

 

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us 
<mailto:se...@rollernet.us> > wrote:

On 2/10/17 10:36, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 2/10/17 10:32, Gino Villarini wrote:

Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from
factory.  I have to wait 30 days for replacement� geez�

So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what
happens wen you relabel Ceragon�

My MW business is going elsewhere�



I don't think 6GHz band gear is highly stocked by anyone. Why didn't you
buy spares? =P



Actually I should correct myself in that SAF will stock spares if you pay for 
their next day replacement plan. Otherwise you have to send it back to them for 
repair with a turnaround of about 4 weeks.

~Seth





 

-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm 
SAF is excellent in this regard, and the warranty is a relatively
inexpensive insurance policy

Cambium has never been as shitty to customers as motorola, but pretty close



On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 2/10/17 10:36, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>
>> On 2/10/17 10:32, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>
>>> Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from
>>> factory.  I have to wait 30 days for replacement� geez�
>>>
>>> So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what
>>> happens wen you relabel Ceragon�
>>>
>>> My MW business is going elsewhere�
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't think 6GHz band gear is highly stocked by anyone. Why didn't you
>> buy spares? =P
>>
>
>
> Actually I should correct myself in that SAF will stock spares if you pay
> for their next day replacement plan. Otherwise you have to send it back to
> them for repair with a turnaround of about 4 weeks.
>
> ~Seth
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread Gino Villarini 
Tried, they don’t have stock…

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Jon 
Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net<mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, February 10, 2017 at 3:15 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

Can you buy a new ODU quicker?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.





Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Feb 10, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Gino Villarini 
<g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:

Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from factory.  I 
have to wait 30 days for replacement… geez…

So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what happens wen 
you relabel Ceragon…

My MW business is going elsewhere…



Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread Jon Langeler 
Can you buy a new ODU quicker? 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Feb 10, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> 
> Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from factory.  I 
> have to wait 30 days for replacement… geez… 
> 
> So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what happens 
> wen you relabel Ceragon… 
> 
> My MW business is going elsewhere… 
>  
> 
> Gino Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread Rory Conaway 
We had that happen with PTP5800's a while back.

rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Bruce
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 12:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

We opted for Ceragon directly.� Three links and they've been nothing but 
perfect.� Support is fantastic as well.

Testing yesterday went through all three links and their associated switches (a 
3650, a 3550 and then a 3750) from laptop to laptop we were seeing 1.4 ms on 
PingPlotter (all layer 2 at this point).

The guys at Crossover did all the hard work with licensing and set up and 
training. We've been nothing but happy.
On 2/10/2017 1:32 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from factory. �I 
have to wait 30 days for replacement� geez��

So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what happens wen 
you relabel Ceragon��

My MW business is going elsewhere��

�

Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread Jon Bruce 
We opted for Ceragon directly.  Three links and they've been nothing but 
perfect.  Support is fantastic as well.


Testing yesterday went through all three links and their associated 
switches (a 3650, a 3550 and then a 3750) from laptop to laptop we were 
seeing 1.4 ms on PingPlotter (all layer 2 at this point).


The guys at Crossover did all the hard work with licensing and set up 
and training. We've been nothing but happy.


On 2/10/2017 1:32 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from 
factory.  I have to wait 30 days for replacement� geez�


So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what 
happens wen you relabel Ceragon�


My MW business is going elsewhere�

*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread Jason McKemie 
Maybe talk to SIAE?  I haven't used 6GHz equipment from them, but they have
replacement options that are very quick without buying a replacement plan.

Their service and support has been top-notch.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

> Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from
> factory.  I have to wait 30 days for replacement… geez…
>
> So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what
> happens wen you relabel Ceragon…
>
> My MW business is going elsewhere…
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread Seth Mattinen 

On 2/10/17 10:36, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 2/10/17 10:32, Gino Villarini wrote:

Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from
factory.  I have to wait 30 days for replacement� geez�

So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what
happens wen you relabel Ceragon�

My MW business is going elsewhere�




I don't think 6GHz band gear is highly stocked by anyone. Why didn't you
buy spares? =P



Actually I should correct myself in that SAF will stock spares if you 
pay for their next day replacement plan. Otherwise you have to send it 
back to them for repair with a turnaround of about 4 weeks.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

2017-02-10 Thread Seth Mattinen 

On 2/10/17 10:32, Gino Villarini wrote:

Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from
factory.  I have to wait 30 days for replacement� geez�

So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what
happens wen you relabel Ceragon�

My MW business is going elsewhere�




I don't think 6GHz band gear is highly stocked by anyone. Why didn't you 
buy spares? =P


~Seth