Re: [African Wikimedians] Kikuyu Wikipedia over 1000 articles

2016-05-18 Thread Asaf Bartov 
Yes, Aliwal2012's work is impressive.  But toiling on one's own often leads
to burnout, after a while.

"Recruitment of individuals with skills and interest", as you say, is
indeed the key.  It has proven a quite formidable challenge, for the
non-colonial African languages.  Even Swahili, the largest of the African
language Wikipedias, has been largely cultivated by non-native-speaker (but
fluent) Europeans (Three of the four very active editors of that Wikipedia
are Europeans.)

In other words, for various reasons it has proven much harder to attract
native Swahili (and Zulu, and Sotho) speakers to edit Wikipedia in those
languages.  It seems to me that over and beyond the objective
infrastructural difficulties (Internet access, availability of source
material in those languages, etc.), the key obstacle is self-motivation:
volunteering to create and curate encyclopedic knowledge -- a bit of a
weird hobby *everywhere* in the world -- is even less appealing in Africa.
It is anyone's guess what might be done about that.  Perhaps some videos
focusing on the *why* more than the *how* could be attempted.

   A.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Don Osborn  wrote:

> Thanks. This is one of the ongoing challenges for small Wikipedias. It
> helps to keep the focus on them, but also needed, I think, is recruitment
> of individuals with skills and interest (that's a long discussion). For
> small projects, one or a few individuals can have tremendous impact - a
> current example is the Northern Sotho (aka Sepedi) Wikipedia
> https://nso.wikipedia.org/
>
> Don
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> On 5/11/2016 8:06 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote:
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> Whoever it was, they seem to have given up.  There have been zero active
> editors in the past few months. :(
>
>A.
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> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Don Osborn  wrote:
>
>> FYI, the Kikuyu (Gĩkũyũ) Wikipedia https://ki.wikipedia.org/ has passed
>> the 1000 article milestone, currently with 1321 articles. At the end of
>> January it had only 847.
>>
>> A quick look at random pages, however, shows many of the pages are single
>> sentence articles on cities. Still, it would be interesting to know more
>> about who has been doing the recent editing, and their plans.
>>
>> One evident gap is that the interface (commands) has not yet been
>> translated into Kikuyu.
>>
>> Don Osborn
>>
>>
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Re: [African Wikimedians] Kikuyu Wikipedia over 1000 articles

2016-05-17 Thread Don Osborn 
Thanks. This is one of the ongoing challenges for small Wikipedias. It 
helps to keep the focus on them, but also needed, I think, is 
recruitment of individuals with skills and interest (that's a long 
discussion). For small projects, one or a few individuals can have 
tremendous impact - a current example is the Northern Sotho (aka Sepedi) 
Wikipedia https://nso.wikipedia.org/


Don


On 5/11/2016 8:06 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote:
Whoever it was, they seem to have given up.  There have been zero 
active editors in the past few months. :(


   A.

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Don Osborn > wrote:


FYI, the Kikuyu (Gĩkũyũ) Wikipedia https://ki.wikipedia.org/ has
passed the 1000 article milestone, currently with 1321 articles.
At the end of January it had only 847.

A quick look at random pages, however, shows many of the pages are
single sentence articles on cities. Still, it would be interesting
to know more about who has been doing the recent editing, and
their plans.

One evident gap is that the interface (commands) has not yet been
translated into Kikuyu.

Don Osborn


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Re: [African Wikimedians] Kikuyu Wikipedia over 1000 articles

2016-05-11 Thread Asaf Bartov 
Whoever it was, they seem to have given up.  There have been zero active
editors in the past few months. :(

   A.

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Don Osborn  wrote:

> FYI, the Kikuyu (Gĩkũyũ) Wikipedia https://ki.wikipedia.org/ has passed
> the 1000 article milestone, currently with 1321 articles. At the end of
> January it had only 847.
>
> A quick look at random pages, however, shows many of the pages are single
> sentence articles on cities. Still, it would be interesting to know more
> about who has been doing the recent editing, and their plans.
>
> One evident gap is that the interface (commands) has not yet been
> translated into Kikuyu.
>
> Don Osborn
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Re: [African Wikimedians] Kikuyu Wikipedia over 1000 articles (Don Osborn)

2016-05-10 Thread Don Osborn 
Thank you Ingo. The congrats go to the Kikuyu contributors - I'm just 
reporting.


Don

On 5/7/2016 4:07 AM, Ingo Koll wrote:

Hi Don, 1,000 is an accomplishment, thus congrats! Wikistatistics 
(https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryKI.htm) only show non regular 
activities, large intervals, could not identify a consistent active contributor 
- maybe he (usually he!) is mostly anonymus and/or has too many intervals.

The statistics on this wiki is not very much up to date (often the case with 
very small wikis) but still gives a fair picture.
Cheers  Ingo



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FYI, the Kikuyu (Gĩkũyũ) Wikipedia https://ki.wikipedia.org/ has passed the 
1000 article milestone, currently with 1321 articles. At the end of January it 
had only 847.

A quick look at random pages, however, shows many of the pages are single 
sentence articles on cities. Still, it would be interesting to know more about 
who has been doing the recent editing, and their plans.

One evident gap is that the interface (commands) has not yet been translated 
into Kikuyu.
Don Osborn


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