Re: [agi] AGI's Philosophy of Learning

2008-08-20 Thread BillK
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Abram Demski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wow, sorry about that. I am using firefox and had no problems. The
 site was just the first reference I was able to find using  google.

 Wikipedia references the same fact:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feedforward_neural_network#Multi-layer_perceptron



I've done a bit more investigation.

The web site is probably clean.

These attacks are probably coming from a compromised ad server.
ScanSafe Quote:
Online ads have become a primary target for malware authors because
they offer a stealthy way to distribute malware to a wide audience. In
many instances, the malware perpetrator can leverage the distributed
nature of online advertising and the decentralization of website
content to spread malware to hundreds of sites.


So you might encounter these attacks at any site, because almost all
sites serve up ads to you.
And you're correct that FireFox with AdBlock Plus and NoScript is safe
from these attacks.

Using a Linux or Apple operating system is even safer.

I dualboot to use Linux for browsing and only go into Windows when necessary.
Nowadays you can also use virtualization to run several operating
systems at once.
Cooperative Linux also runs happily alongside Windows.


BillK


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[agi] How We Look At Faces

2008-08-20 Thread Mike Tintner
{I wonder whether the difference below *is* biological - due to narrower 
eyes taking that little bit longer to process?]


Culture Shapes How We Look at Faces
Caroline Blais1,2, Rachael E. Jack1, Christoph Scheepers1, Daniel Fiset1,2, 
Roberto Caldara1


1 Department of Psychology, University of Glasgow, Glasgow, United Kingdom,
2 Département de Psychologie, Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada

Abstract
Background
Face processing, amongst many basic visual skills, is thought to be 
invariant across all humans. From as early as 1965, studies of eye movements 
have consistently revealed a systematic triangular sequence of fixations 
over the eyes and the mouth, suggesting that faces elicit a universal, 
biologically-determined information extraction pattern.


Methodology/Principal Findings
Here we monitored the eye movements of Western Caucasian and East Asian 
observers while they learned, recognized, and categorized by race Western 
Caucasian and East Asian faces. Western Caucasian observers reproduced a 
scattered triangular pattern of fixations for faces of both races and across 
tasks. Contrary to intuition, East Asian observers focused more on the 
central region of the face.


Conclusions/Significance
These results demonstrate that face processing can no longer be considered 
as arising from a universal series of perceptual events. The strategy 
employed to extract visual information from faces differs across cultures.


Source: PLoS One [Open Access]
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0003022




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Re: [agi] How We Look At Faces

2008-08-20 Thread Matt Mahoney
Mike Tintner wrote:
{I wonder whether the difference below *is* biological - due to narrower 
eyes taking that little bit longer to process?]

Or there is a learned difference in the way Caucasians and Asians process 
visual information due to written language differences (a larger alphabet).

Or there is a genetic difference, such as a broader fovea in Asians, or 
differences in the eye muscles resulting in a lower saccade rate.

 Or as the paper suggests, it is rude to stare at people in Asian cultures, so 
they learn to recognize faces without looking directly at the eyes.

You can't tell from the paper, but perhaps you could conclude that for an AI, 
getting the low level features right is not critical for face recognition.

-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Subject: [agi] How We Look At Faces

{I wonder whether the difference below *is* biological - due to narrower 
eyes taking that little bit longer to process?]

Culture Shapes How We Look at Faces
Caroline Blais1,2, Rachael E. Jack1, Christoph Scheepers1, Daniel Fiset1,2, 
Roberto Caldara1

1 Department of Psychology, University of Glasgow, Glasgow, United Kingdom,
2 Département de Psychologie, Université de Montréal, Montréal, Canada

Abstract
Background
Face processing, amongst many basic visual skills, is thought to be 
invariant across all humans. From as early as 1965, studies of eye movements 
have consistently revealed a systematic triangular sequence of fixations 
over the eyes and the mouth, suggesting that faces elicit a universal, 
biologically-determined information extraction pattern.

Methodology/Principal Findings
Here we monitored the eye movements of Western Caucasian and East Asian 
observers while they learned, recognized, and categorized by race Western 
Caucasian and East Asian faces. Western Caucasian observers reproduced a 
scattered triangular pattern of fixations for faces of both races and across 
tasks. Contrary to intuition, East Asian observers focused more on the 
central region of the face.

Conclusions/Significance
These results demonstrate that face processing can no longer be considered 
as arising from a universal series of perceptual events. The strategy 
employed to extract visual information from faces differs across cultures.

Source: PLoS One [Open Access]
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0003022




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