[agi] Consolidated statement of Ben's preferred AGI goal structure? (was AGIs and emotions)

2004-02-23 Thread Philip Sutton
Hi Ben,  

 Yes, of course a brief ethical slogan like choice, growth and joy is
 underspecified and all the terms need to be better defined, either by
 example or by formal elucidation, etc.  I carry out some of this
 elucidation in the Encouraging a Positive Transcension essay that
 triggered this whole dialogue... 

Sorry. I wasn't trying to annoy you.  

I think it might be a good idea to create a web page somewhere where 
you collect the current best specificiation/formal elucidation of your 
preferred goal structure, including the best examples.  Then the 
consolidated results of what you take from the discussion can be seen.  
Otherwise it's hard to tell what's been picked up from all the threads of 
the discussion and which emails/documents are meant to be seen as 
the current state of the art.  

I now realise that some of my recent comments on the AGI list were 
influenced by the message on Defining growth, choice and joy that 
you sent to SL4.  

Having a single consolidated/actively updated web page on the goal 
structure would also be a way to make it easier for people who might 
not be following both the AGI and SL4 list discussions and so might 
otherwise miss key developments.   

What do you think?  

Cheers, Philip  

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RE: [agi] Consolidated statement of Ben's preferred AGI goal structure? (was AGIs and emotions)

2004-02-23 Thread Ben Goertzel

Hi Philip,

  Yes, of course a brief ethical slogan like choice, growth and joy is
  underspecified and all the terms need to be better defined, either by
  example or by formal elucidation, etc.  I carry out some of this
  elucidation in the Encouraging a Positive Transcension essay that
  triggered this whole dialogue...

 Sorry. I wasn't trying to annoy you.

Don't worry -- you didn't -- if you want to learn how to annoy me better
perhaps you can get private lessons from certain SL4 list members ;-)

 I think it might be a good idea to create a web page somewhere where
 you collect the current best specificiation/formal elucidation of your
 preferred goal structure, including the best examples.  Then the
 consolidated results of what you take from the discussion can be seen.
 Otherwise it's hard to tell what's been picked up from all the threads of
 the discussion and which emails/documents are meant to be seen as
 the current state of the art.

 I now realise that some of my recent comments on the AGI list were
 influenced by the message on Defining growth, choice and joy that
 you sent to SL4.

 Having a single consolidated/actively updated web page on the goal
 structure would also be a way to make it easier for people who might
 not be following both the AGI and SL4 list discussions and so might
 otherwise miss key developments.

 What do you think?

I think that this will be an interesting thing to do once we're at the point
of teaching our baby Novamente to experience the world.

As of now, I'm going to focus my attention on getting the Novamente software
system completed, and on the commercial Novamente apps that are paying for
development...

-- Ben G

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