[agi] Religious attitudes to NBIC technologies

2008-12-08 Thread Richard Loosemore


Another indication that we need to take the public relations issue very 
seriously indeed:  as time passes, this problem of the public attitude 
(and especially the religious attitude) to NBIC technologies will only 
become more extreme:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7767192.stm



Richard Loosemore




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Re: [agi] Religious attitudes to NBIC technologies

2008-12-08 Thread Bob Mottram
2008/12/8 Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Another indication that we need to take the public relations issue very
 seriously indeed:  as time passes, this problem of the public attitude (and
 especially the religious attitude) to NBIC technologies will only become
 more extreme:


People who are highly religious tend to be very past positive
according the Zimbardo classification of people according to their
temporal orientation.  For them the ideal formula for living has
already been described by their favourite guru/prophet/leader, so
anything significantly different from this formula (or their
interpretation of it) is to be avoided or resisted.  This doesn't just
apply to nanotechnology, but any technology with the capacity to bring
about social or environmental change.

I agree that in time we will see more polarization around a variety of
technology related issues.


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Re: [agi] Religious attitudes to NBIC technologies

2008-12-08 Thread Philip Hunt
2008/12/8 Bob Mottram [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 People who are highly religious tend to be very past positive
 according the Zimbardo classification of people according to their
 temporal orientation. [...]
 I agree that in time we will see more polarization around a variety of
 technology related issues.

You're probably right. Part of the problem is that these people
[correctly] believe that science and technology are destroying their
worldview. And as the gaps in scientific knowledge decrease, there's
less roo for the God of the gaps to occupy.

Having said that, I'm not aware that nanotechnology or AI are
specifically prohibited by any of the major religions. And if one
society forgoes science, they'll just get outcompeted by their
neighbours.

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Philip Hunt, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
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Re: [agi] Religious attitudes to NBIC technologies

2008-12-08 Thread Steve Richfield
Everyone,

The problem here is that WE don't have anything to point to as OUR religion,
so that everyone else has the power of stupidity in general and the 1st
amendment in particular, yet we don't have any such power.

I believe that it is possible to fill in this gap, but I don't wish to
discuss incomplete solutions on public forums. However, if you have any
ideas just how OUR religion should be structured, then please feel free to
send them to me, preferably off-line. It would be a real shame to do a bad
job of this, so I'm keeping my detailed thoughts to myself pending a live
birth.

Note Buddhism's belief structure that does NOT include a Deity.

Note Islam's various provisions for unbelievers to get a free pass, and
sometimes even break a rule here and there, so long as they pretend to
believe.

Any thoughts?

Steve Richfield

On 12/8/08, Philip Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2008/12/8 Bob Mottram [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  People who are highly religious tend to be very past positive
  according the Zimbardo classification of people according to their
  temporal orientation. [...]
  I agree that in time we will see more polarization around a variety of
  technology related issues.

 You're probably right. Part of the problem is that these people
 [correctly] believe that science and technology are destroying their
 worldview. And as the gaps in scientific knowledge decrease, there's
 less roo for the God of the gaps to occupy.

 Having said that, I'm not aware that nanotechnology or AI are
 specifically prohibited by any of the major religions. And if one
 society forgoes science, they'll just get outcompeted by their
 neighbours.

 --
 Philip Hunt, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html


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