Re: [agi] funky robot kits and AGI

2003-08-27 Thread Philip Sutton
Hi Ben,

I'm not an electronics expert but my electric tooth brush runs on an 
induction 'connection' so there's no need for a bare wire conection to an 
electric circuit.  Maybe a covered ground-level induction grid could be 
set up.  Also you could run an electric cord to the robot.  Also I had a 
goat (biological and alive) that was run that way - on a cord - otherwise 
it was dynamite with all the plants and clothes on the line!  :)

Cheers, Philip

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Re: [agi] funky robot kits and AGI

2003-08-27 Thread Cliff Stabbert
Ben wrote:

BG Oddly, the biggest problem with these robots, in terms of AGI, is probably
BG the limited battery life (for the robot, and the onboard laptop, whose
BG batteries run down fast when running the robot control software).  Half an
BG hour is not enough time to learn much, and no human wants to swap batteries
BG in and out all day.  You need a robot that can run continuously so it can
BG learn continuously.

Taking a page from one of the essays or commentaries in _The Mind's I_
(Hofstadter  Dennett, eds.), you could add a plug to the movable arm
and as one of the first training tasks, teach it to find an outlet and
recharge itself when power levels fall below 7 percent...

--
Cliff

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RE: [agi] funky robot kits and AGI

2003-08-27 Thread Ben Goertzel

Cool concept, but I'm guessing the first version won't work for something as
power-hungry as a big mobile robot...

ben

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 Here's another idea...

 I had forgotten that these pads (
 http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,106482,00.asp ) are
 starting to be
 available for recharging devices.  All that needs done for the robot is to
 have it drive on the pad and sit still to recharge (may have to
 extend some
 electrodes\contacts to the floor).  If you wanted to lay out some
 dough, you
 could have a room full of these pads so the bot could move freely while
 constantly recharging, thus meeting your objective..

 --Kevin

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   Of course, it is still likely that the bot would get tangled
 as it turns
   thus countering the autoretract.. :(  But perhaps this is
 something for
 it
   to learn: Don't get tangled in the cord!
  
   --Kevin
 
  Yeah, sure... this is something the bot should be able to
 learn.  However,
  the period while it's learning this may be very frustrating for
 the human
  parent of the creature ;-)) !!!
 
  This really sounds very amusing to play with.  In 6 months or so when
  Novamente procedure-learning is further along, I may just buy myself one
 of
  these gizmos for an April Fools Day present!!
 
  -- ben g
 
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