Re: BUS: [Proposal] Sets v1.0
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:05:26 PM CDT nch via agora-business wrote: > Title: Sets v1.0 > Author: nch > Co-Authors: Trigon, Falsifian, PSS, Jason Cobb > AI: 3 I withdraw Sets v1.0 and submit the following proposal. { Title: Sets v1.1 Author: nch Co-Authors: Trigon, Falsifian, PSS, Jason AI: 3 Enact a new Power=1 rule titled "Cards & Sets" with the text: Cards are a type of asset with a corresponding Product. Products are also assets. The types of Cards and their corresponding Products are: * Victory Cards and Victory Points. * Justice Cards and Blot-B-Gones * Legislative Cards and Pendants * Voting Cards and Extra Votes A player CAN, by announcement, pay a 'set' of X Cards of the same type to create in eir possession Y corresponding Products. The value of X determines the value of Y in the following ways: * 1 Card = 1 Product * 2 Cards = 3 Products * 3 Cards = 6 Products * 4 Cards = 10 Products A player CANNOT pay more than 4 Cards as one 'set'. Cards and Products are tracked by the Treasuror. For each player that is not a zombie, create one of each type of card in eir possession. [The core of this proposal. Collect cards to make the other assets. I've been considering whether to have the Treasuror track everything or make a new role. I think there's pros and cons to both. I don't want to overtax the Treasuror but I also don't want to split rule-defined assets across multiple officers if it's not necessary. Also I'm not happy with Victory Points or Extra Votes. Name suggestions for those are welcome.] Amend rule 2499 "Welcome Packages" by replacing: When a player receives a Welcome Package, e earns 10 coins. with: When a player receives a Welcome Package, e earns 10 coins and one of each type of Card defined in the rules. [Simple Welcome package addition] Amend rule 2483 "Economics" by removing the following line: A player CAN win the game by paying a fee of 1,000 Coins. [Ultimately counter to an economy where we want constant trading and asset movement.] Enact a new Power=1 rule titled "VP Wins" with the following text: If a player has at least 20 more Victory Points than any other player, e can win by announcement. When a player wins this way, destroy all Cards and their corresponding products. Then, for each non-zombie player create 1 card of each type in eir possession. [Exactly what it says on the tin.] Amend rule 2555 "Blots" by replacing the following paragraph: If a person (the penitent) has neither gained blots nor had more than 2 blots expunged from emself in the current Agoran week, then any player (the confessor) who has not, by this mechanism, expunged any blots in the current Agoran week CAN expunge 1 blot from the penitent, by announcement. with: Any player CAN, by announcement, expunge a blot from a specified person (or emself if no one is specified) by paying a fee of one Blot-B-Gone. [Pretty straightforward, now you need to use Blot-B-Gones to get rid of Blots (except for the fugitive decay, I left that in).] Amend rule 2350 "Proposals" by replacing: Creating a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool. Once a proposal is created, neither its text nor any of the aforementioned attributes can be changed. The author (syn. proposer) of a proposal is the person who submitted it. with: If a proposal was created in the last week and has not been added to the proposal pool, any player CAN add it to the Proposal Pool by paying one Pendant. When a player who is not the author or a co-author of a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool by this method, e is added to the list of co-authors. Once a proposal is created, neither its text nor any of the aforementioned attributes can be changed, except by the mechanisms in this rule. The author (syn. proposer) of a proposal is the person who submitted it. The Promotor CAN, once a week and without objection, add a propsoal to the Proposal Pool. E SHOULD NOT do so if the author of the proposal has at least one Pendant or Legislative Card. [Make Pendants do the pending thing. Making the pender a co-author ties into lime ribbons/glitter. Add a safeguard to let the promotor pend proposals when it's otherwise not possible.] Amend rule 2422 "Voting Strength" by adding: A player CAN, by announcement, pay 1 Extra Vote and specify a current Agoran decision on which e is a voter. Eir voting strength on that decision is 1 greater for each time e has done so. E CANNOT do so more than 3 times on the same decision. [This makes proxies pretty flexible actually, maybe too much? But I think it's fun and can at most double your base power.] Amend rule 2476 Ownership by removing: Assets owned by the Lost and Found
BUS: [Proposal] Sets v1.0
[Below is sets v1.0. If you read 0.9 and just want to know what's different, look here: https://github.com/nichdel/AgoranProposal/compare/ 60f39a824ff590d38877fbce92c673e94a282a60..d27528f29df072934f71764e593d03eea8411954] I submit the following proposal { Title: Sets v1.0 Author: nch Co-Authors: Trigon, Falsifian, PSS, Jason Cobb AI: 3 Enact a new Power=1 rule titled "Cards & Sets" with the text: Cards are a type of asset with a corresponding Product. Products are also assets. The types of Cards and their corresponding Products are: * Victory Cards and Victory Points. * Justice Cards and Blot-B-Gones * Legislative Cards and Pendants * Voting Cards and Extra Votes A player CAN, by announcement, pay a 'set' of X Cards of the same type to create in eir possession Y corresponding Products. The value of X determines the value of Y in the following ways: * 1 Card = 1 Product * 2 Cards = 3 Products * 3 Cards = 6 Products * 4 Cards = 10 Products A player CANNOT pay more than 4 Cards as one 'set'. Cards and Products are tracked by the Treasuror. For each player that is not a zombie, create one of each type of card in eir possession. [The core of this proposal. Collect cards to make the other assets. I've been considering whether to have the Treasuror track everything or make a new role. I think there's pros and cons to both. I don't want to overtax the Treasuror but I also don't want to split rule-defined assets across multiple officers if it's not necessary. Also I'm not happy with Victory Points or Extra Votes. Name suggestions for those are welcome.] Amend rule 2499 "Welcome Packages" by replacing: When a player receives a Welcome Package, e earns 10 coins. with: When a player receives a Welcome Package, e earns 10 coins and one of each type of Card defined in the rules. [Simple Welcome package addition] Amend rule 2483 "Economics" by removing the following line: A player CAN win the game by paying a fee of 1,000 Coins. [Ultimately counter to an economy where we want constant trading and asset movement.] Enact a new Power=1 rule titled "VP Wins" with the following text: If a player has at least 20 more Victory Points than any other player, e can win by announcement. When a player wins this way, destroy all Cards and their corresponding products. Then, for each non-zombie player create 1 card of each type in eir possession. [Exactly what it says on the tin.] Amend rule 2555 "Blots" by replacing the following paragraph: If a person (the penitent) has neither gained blots nor had more than 2 blots expunged from emself in the current Agoran week, then any player (the confessor) who has not, by this mechanism, expunged any blots in the current Agoran week CAN expunge 1 blot from the penitent, by announcement. with: Any player CAN, by announcement, expunge a blot from a specified person (or emself if no one is specified) by paying a fee of one Blot-B-Gone. [Pretty straightforward, now you need to use Blot-B-Gones to get rid of Blots (except for the fugitive decay, I left that in).] Amend rule 2350 "Proposals" by replacing: Creating a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool. with: If a proposal was created in the last week and has not been added to the proposal pool, any player CAN add it to the Proposal Pool by paying one Pendant. When a player who is not the author or a co-author of a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool by this method, e is added to the list of co-authors. The Promotor CAN, once a week and without objection, add a propsoal to the Proposal Pool. E SHOULD NOT do so if the author of the proposal has at least one Pendant or Legislative Card. [Make Pendants do the pending thing. Making the pender a co-author ties into lime ribbons/glitter. Add a safeguard to let the promotor pend proposals when it's otherwise not possible.] Amend rule 2422 "Voting Strength" by adding: A player CAN, by announcement, pay 1 Extra Vote and specify a current Agoran decision on which e is a voter. Eir voting strength on that decision is 1 greater for each time e has done so. E CANNOT do so more than 3 times on the same decision. [This makes proxies pretty flexible actually, maybe too much? But I think it's fun and can at most double your base power.] Amend rule 2476 Ownership by removing: Assets owned by the Lost and Found Department can be transferred or destroyed by any player without objection. Create a new Power=1 rule titled "VP Auctions" with the following text: Once a week the Treasuror CAN and SHOULD initiate an auction. The auction has the following lots: * one Victory Card, created in the possession of Agora when the auction is initiated AND * all
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Dragon] Presidential Elections and Shorter Voting Periods
On 5/20/20 5:55 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > I vote AGAINST the Presidential Elections proposal. As do I. -- Jason Cobb
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Dragon] Presidential Elections and Shorter Voting Periods
On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 02:28, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 5:53 PM James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 05:22, Aris Merchant via agora-business > > wrote: > > > I submit the following Dragon Corporation Amendment Proposals: > > > > > > --- > > > Presidential Elections > > > > > > Replace the first paragraph of Bylaw 6: Recordkeeping with the following: > > > A contract-defined office behaves as closely as possible to a regular > > > office, > > > except that: > > > - its only salary is 5 banknotes once per payday > > > - only members can hold it > > > - only members can take, support, or object to actions that would > > > change its > > > officeholder > > > - a person's voting strength in elections for it is equal to the > > > number of shares e holds > > > > > > President of the Dragon Corporation is a contract-defined office. > > > > Possible bug: who collects votes for an election for President? I > > guess it's the ADoP, but they're not actually required to do it unless > > they become a party to the contract. > > Ugh. Missed that. Well, I'm glad I have the other proposal to lower > the voting period, so we won't have to start the entire voting period > over again. > > -Aris I vote AGAINST the Presidential Elections proposal. - Falsifian
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3831 enters the mootiest moot ever
On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 01:31, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > > On May 19, 2020, at 21:27, nch via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 8:07:27 PM CDT Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > > agora-business wrote: > >>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 9:03 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> On 5/19/20 5:54 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > I hereby initiate an Agoran Decision to determine public confidence in > CFJ > 3831's current judgement of FALSE, delivered by Alexis on 26 Apr 2020 > (that is, a Moot). > > Case at: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3831, also > included in full below. > > For this decision: > vote collector: Arbitor > quorum: 5 > voting method: first-past-the-post > valid options: AFFIRM, REMAND, and REMIT (PRESENT is also a valid > vote, > > as are conditional votes). > >>> > >>> I vote PRESENT. Haven't really been following these events. > >> > >> I vote REMAND. > > > > Why remand instead of remit? Alexis can't actually rejudge it right now. > > > > -- > > nch > > That’s true, but I want to symbolically communicate my confidence in Alexis’s > ability to judge the case. I vote REMAND for the same reason. - Falsifian
BUS: Passing the bar
I would like to be added to the judging pool -grok