BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3862 Assigned to R. Lee
Public forum On Fri., 17 Jul. 2020, 11:15 am N. S. via agora-discussion, < agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I judge CFJ 3862 IRRELEVANT as it is overly hypothetical. > > On Fri., 17 Jul. 2020, 7:20 am Kerim Aydin via agora-official, < > agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > The below CFJ is 3862. I assign it to R. Lee. > > > > status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3862 > > > > === CFJ 3862 > === > > > > Facts (for example, 2 + 2 = 4), for the purposes of Agoran play, > > rely on some function of the collective Agoran opinion and not > > necessarily some objective reality. For example, if enough Agorans > > believe that 2 + 2 = 5 is true, it is then so for Agora. > > > > > == > > > > Caller:Cuddlebeam > > > > Judge: R. Lee > > > > > == > > > > History: > > > > Called by Cuddlebeam: 30 Jun 2020 09:41:12 > > Assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus: 05 Jul 2020 18:22:54 > > Publius recuses emself: 12 Jul 2020 14:33:38 > > Assigned to R. Lee: [now] > > > > > == > > > > Caller's Arguments: > > > > I'm very convinced that nomic is entirely a perspectivist, subjective > > game, but let's see how that holds up to Judgement. > > > > > == > > > > >
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge Shenanigans
On 2020-07-16 5:47 p.m., ATMunn via agora-business wrote: On 7/16/2020 1:43 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/16/2020 1:42 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: I pledge to not say the word "tacos" in any context for the next 24 hours. The time window of this pledge is 24 hours and breaking the pledge shall be a class 1 crime. I like tacos. CFJ: In the above message, I broke a pledge. Arguments: Though I did say the word I am forbidden to say due to the pledge, it was 1) not a public message and 2) not an action. So, FALSE would be logical. However, the pledge does say "in any context." Does that still make it binding, even outside of public forums? Gratuitous: CFJ 3737 may be relevant here. The judge found that if someone agreed to a contract stating parties SHALL NOT breathe, then breathing would be a regulated action just for those parties. So, maybe saying "tacos" is a regulated action just for you. (Whether or not saying "tacos" is a regulated action, I suspect it is at least an action, but I'm not sure.) -- Falsifian
BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 14:29 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > Agoran Court Gazette (Arbitor's Weekly Report) > Thu 16 Jul 2020 UTC COE: This omits the case I called about Diplonomic proposals being misinterpreted as Agoran proposals. (Sorry for forgetting to signal it; I'm still used to the old way of doing things.) -- ais523
BUS: [Ribbon] friendly neighborhood notary has done eir job responsibly
I award myself a Green Ribbon. -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary and Czar of Russia :)
BUS: [Arbitor] Rewards
I grant 5 coins to each of the following players for timely judgements: Murphy (#3863 on 12 Jul): 6.886516 days Jason (#3865 on 10 Jul): 1.997581 days G. (#3864 on 05 Jul): 0.052951 days Jason (#3861 on 03 Jul): 1.475081 days ATMunn (#3860 on 03 Jul): 1.437350 days
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge Shenanigans
On 7/16/2020 1:43 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/16/2020 1:42 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: I pledge to not say the word "tacos" in any context for the next 24 hours. The time window of this pledge is 24 hours and breaking the pledge shall be a class 1 crime. I like tacos. CFJ: In the above message, I broke a pledge. Arguments: Though I did say the word I am forbidden to say due to the pledge, it was 1) not a public message and 2) not an action. So, FALSE would be logical. However, the pledge does say "in any context." Does that still make it binding, even outside of public forums? Evidence: Rule 2450/9 (Power=1.7) Pledges If a Player makes a clear public pledge (syn. Oath) to perform (or refrain from performing) certain actions, then breaking the pledge within the pledge's time window is the Class N crime of Oathbreaking, where N is 2 unless the pledge explicitly states otherwise. It is also Oathbreaking for a player to let a pledge expire without taking an action e pledged to do in that pledge. The time window of a pledge is 60 days, unless the pledge explicitly states otherwise. A pledge ceases to exist at the end of its time window. If breaking the pledge harms specific other parties, the Referee SHOULD solicit the opinion of those parties in determining an appropriate fine. The Notary CAN destroy a pledge Without Objection, but SHOULD NOT do so unless the pledge no longer serves any significant purpose. -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary and Czar of Russia :)
BUS: Pledge Shenanigans
I pledge to not say the word "tacos" in any context for the next 24 hours. The time window of this pledge is 24 hours and breaking the pledge shall be a class 1 crime. -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary and Czar of Russia :)
BUS: Card cashing [attn. Treasuror]
If I have at least 4 justice cards (I believe I do - 2 grants from G., 1
grant from PSS, and 1 transfer from G.), I perform the following actions:
{
Under Rule 2620, I pay a set of 4 Justice Cards to earn 10 Blot-B-Gones.
I transfer 6 Blot-B-Gones to G.
}
--
Jason Cobb
BUS: [@Treasuror] card transfer
I transfer a justice card to Jason. -G.
[Cashing; @ Treasuror] Re: BUS: [Promise] Justice for hire
On 7/13/20 6:01 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I create the following promise and transfer it to the Library:
>
> {
>
> Cashing conditions: the bearer has transferred or granted Jason 1
> Justice card in the same message as which e cashes this promise.
>
> I transfer the bearer 15 coins.
>
> }
>
I do the following as long as all actions are successful:
I transfer this promise to myself from the Library.
With reference to the office of Referee, I grant Jason 1 Justice card.
I cash this promise, causing Jason to transfer 15 coins to me.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
