BUS: CFJ 3866 Judged FALSE
CFJ 3866 Please note that the adjudication of this case involves possible contact with a purported novel species of contractual organism, which could be dangerous and requires expert knowledge to handle appropriately. Accordingly, a biologist will act as judge. Biologists's Arguments The contract cited in the caller's evidence purports to reproduce once every minute. This is contrary to the scientific understanding of the contractual life cycle, as I will explain. Accordingly Rule 1742, a contract is formed when persons "publicly make an agreement among themselves". These persons act essentially in lieu of parents, and the public agreement is necessary for them to instill life in the contract. Per Rule 478, "To do something 'publicly' is to do that thing within a public message." In other words, a public message provides a unique environment crucial for the contract to be born. The purported creation of the duplicate contracts did not take place by making an agreement in a public message: the consent to create them was made public, but it could not take effect at the time the message was evaluated. Because the environment of a public message is crucial for the genesis of the contractual organism, it must be present concurrently with the organism's birth. A public message, after all, is evaluated only once, and does not continue taking effect thereafter. Accordingly, I rule FALSE. Let this be a lesson to all that life is subtle and unique and that you should increase the funding of the biology department accordingly. Biologist's Evidence Rule 1742/22 (Power=2.5) Contracts Any group of one or more consenting persons (the parties) may publicly make an agreement among themselves with the intention that it be binding upon them and be governed by the rules. Such an agreement is known as a contract. A contract may be modified, including by changing the set of parties, with the consent of all existing parties. A contract may also be terminated with the consent of all parties. A contract automatically terminates if the number of parties to it falls below one. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a person to become a party to a contract without eir consent. Parties to a contract governed by the rules SHALL act in accordance with that contract. This obligation is not impaired by contradiction between the contract and any other contract, or between the contract and the rules. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, any change that would cause the full provisions or parties of a contract to become publicly unavailable is canceled and does not take effect. The portion of a contract's provisions that can be interpreted with reference only to information that is either publicly or generally available are known as its body; the remainder of the provisions are known as the annex. A party to a contract CAN perform any of the following actions as explicitly and unambiguously permitted by the contract's body: * Act on behalf of another party to the contract. * By announcement, revoke destructible assets from the contract. * By announcement, transfer liquid assets from the contract to a specified recipient. Rule 478/38 (Power=3) Fora Freedom of speech being essential for the healthy functioning of any non-Imperial nomic, it is hereby resolved that no Player shall be prohibited from participating in the Fora, nor shall any person create physical or technological obstacles that unduly favor some players' fora access over others. Publicity is a secured forum switch with values Public, Discussion, and Foreign (default), tracked by the Registrar. The Registrar may change the publicity of a forum without objection as long as: 1. e sends eir announcement of intent to that forum; and 2. if the forum is to be made public, the announcement by which the Registrar makes that forum public is sent to all existing public fora. Each player should ensure e can receive messages via each public forum. A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent to all players and containing a clear designation of intent to be public. A rule can also designate that a part of one public message is considered a public message in its own right. To "publish" or "announce" something is to send a public message whose body contains that thing. To do something "publicly" is to do that thing within a public message. Where the rules define an action that a person CAN perform "by announcement", that person performs that action by unambiguously and clearly specifying the action and announcing that e performs it. Any action performed by sending a message is performed at the time date-stamped on that message. Actions in messages (including sub-messages) are performed in the order they appear in the message, unless otherwise specified.
BUS: [Ribbon] Platinum claim
[Sorry for not putting this in the earlier thread, just remembered now]. As I am the speaker, I award myself a Platinum ribbon. -- Jason Cobb
Re: BUS: Bribery [attn. Tailor]
On 7/26/20 8:46 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > On 7/26/20 8:38 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> I pledge to pay the Tailor 20 coins in a timely fashion if e awards me a >> Gray ribbon within the next 12 hours. >> > I award a Gray ribbon to Jason. With accepting a bribe from R. Lee, I > established a pattern of this, which I feel obligated to continue. Jason > has privately described to me how e plans to use it as part of the > legitimate ribbon game and assured me that there is no scam, so I have > no serious ethical qualms about it given that Agoran officers are > permitted to accept limited bribes. > I pay PSS 20 coins. -- Jason Cobb
Re: BUS: Bribery [attn. Tailor]
On 7/26/20 8:38 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I pledge to pay the Tailor 20 coins in a timely fashion if e awards me a > Gray ribbon within the next 12 hours. > I award a Gray ribbon to Jason. With accepting a bribe from R. Lee, I established a pattern of this, which I feel obligated to continue. Jason has privately described to me how e plans to use it as part of the legitimate ribbon game and assured me that there is no scam, so I have no serious ethical qualms about it given that Agoran officers are permitted to accept limited bribes. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [Ribbon] Green claim
I award myself a Green ribbon for the office of Assessor. -- Jason Cobb
BUS: Bribery [attn. Tailor]
I pledge to pay the Tailor 20 coins in a timely fashion if e awards me a Gray ribbon within the next 12 hours. -- Jason Cobb
BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3867 Judged TRUE by Jason [Ribbon]
On 7/26/20 5:58 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3867 > (This document is informational only and contains no game actions). > > === CFJ 3867 === > > In the above message, I broke a pledge. > > == > > Caller:ATMunn > > Judge: Jason > Judgement: TRUE > > == I award myself a Blue ribbon for the above judgment. I have earned it within the last week, so I still qualify for it, and it has been just over 7 days since I last had it. -- Jason Cobb
BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette
I become an interested judge. Gaelan > On Jul 26, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official > wrote: > > Agoran Court Gazette (Arbitor's Weekly Report) > Sun 26 Jul 2020 > > DEADLINES (details below) > --- > 3866 Assigned to ArisOVERDUE Thu 23 Jul 2020 21:19:10 > 3869 Assigned to ArisDue Sat 01 Aug 2020 18:16:22 > > > INTERESTED JUDGES AND THEIR MOST RECENT CASE > --- > 3862 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > 3863 Murphy > 3864 G. > 3862 R. Lee > 3867 Jason > 3868 ATMunn > 3869 Aris > > (Occasional) > 3797 Falsifian > 3807 Warrigal > 3815 Cuddlebeam > > > OPEN CASES > --- > 3869 Assigned to Aris [Due Sat 01 Aug 2020 18:16:22] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3869 > A player CAN send a message to agora-business by some method. > > 3866 Assigned to Aris [Due Thu 23 Jul 2020 21:19:10] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3866 > More than one Contracoli Contract exists right now. > > > RECENTLY-JUDGED CASES > --- > 3868 Judged FALSE by ATMunn [Fri 17 Jul 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3868 > The above-quoted message created an Agoran proposal. > > 3867 Judged TRUE by Jason [Tue 21 Jul 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3867 > In the above message, I broke a pledge. > > 3865 Judged FALSE by Jason [Fri 10 Jul 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3865 > I am no longer a party to Trigon's 6th secret contract. > > 3864 Judged TRUE by G. [Sun 05 Jul 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3864 > Welcome Package Patch's sole function is not to minimally rectify > a bug. > > 3863 Judged FALSE by Murphy [Sun 12 Jul 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3863 > Aris MAY Call Destruction Down Upon the contract Amusing Test > Case. > > 3862 Judged IRRELEVANT by R. Lee [Fri 17 Jul 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3862 > Facts (for example, 2 + 2 = 4), for the purposes of Agoran play, > rely on some function of the collective Agoran opinion and not > necessarily some objective reality. For example, if enough Agorans > believe that 2 + 2 = 5 is true, it is then so for Agora. > > 3861 Judged FALSE by Jason [Fri 03 Jul 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3861 > The above-quoted attempt to pay cards on nch’s behalf was > unsuccessful because attempting to pay 18 Victory Cards and/or 18 > Justice Cards in 4 sets of 4 is self-contradictory. > > 3860 Judged FALSE by ATMunn [Fri 03 Jul 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3860 > G. cast a valid ballot on Proposal 8458. > > 3859 Judged FALSE by G. [Mon 29 Jun 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3859 > It would be possible to resolve an Agoran decision by announcement > even if conditions 1-4 in R208 are not satisfied. > > 3858 Judged TRUE by grok [Sun 28 Jun 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3858 > An action to be performed with 7 days notice depends on > objections. > > 3857 Judged DISMISS by R. Lee [Tue 30 Jun 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3857 > If the person who sent the above message is a player, e cast a > vote on Proposal 8442 in that message. > > 3856 Judged FALSE by Aris [Tue 30 Jun 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3856 > Any attempt to exile a player or claim a welcome package fails > under omd's contract. > > 3854 Judged DISMISS by Murphy [Sun 28 Jun 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3854 > If a player dies unbeknownst to all persons involved in Agora, e > is still a person. > > 3851 Judged TRUE by Publius Scribonius Scholasticus [Fri 26 Jun 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3851 > R. Lee attempted to perform a forbidden action in the message in > evidence. > > 3850 Judged TRUE by G. [Fri 26 Jun 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3850 > The Plunder Partnership as it existed on June 15, 2020 could be > joined by other players. > > 3849 Judged TRUE by G. [Fri 26 Jun 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3849 > A contract which has no explicit mechanism for joining may still > be joined by other parties in some cases. > > 3848 Judged FALSE by grok [Sat 27 Jun 2020] > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3848 > G. is a party to the Groucho Marx Club.
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Petition to the ADoP
As do I. I also object to the intent regarding the economy. > On Jul 26, 2020, at 13:52, Jason Cobb via agora-business > wrote: > > On 7/26/20 1:50 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: >> I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its >> current value + 'Justice'). >> >> I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its >> current value + 'Efficiency'). >> >> I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its >> current value + 'Legislation'). > > > I object to the above three intents. > > -- > Jason Cobb >
BUS: [Arbitor] Rewards
I grant 5 coins to each of the following players for timely judgements: Jason (#3867 on 21 Jul): 5.078021 days ATMunn (#3868 on 17 Jul): 0.776400 days R. Lee (#3862 on 17 Jul): 0.166910 days -the Arbitor
BUS: [Indictment] Attn defendant R. Lee
H. Defendant R. Lee, Please see the accusation below against you. This Court plans to initiate the proceedings (indictment decisions) soon, so if you want a defense statement distributed with the decisions, please provide prior to the beginning of Tues Jul 28 UTC. -In the name of the Agoran Courts, Arbitor G. presiding. On 7/22/2020 10:02 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > On 7/22/20 12:11 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: >> On 7/22/2020 8:26 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >>> On 7/22/20 2:37 AM, N. S. via agora-business wrote: > "Honor in scammery" created by R. Lee I point my finger at myself for violating this pledge >>> Because breach of this fine is a class 1000 crime, an Indictment will be >>> needed here. G., do you have a preference for how many blots to impose >>> as the aggrieved party? >>> >> >> I was a full conspirator in the scam underlying this, the ability to >> fulfill the pledge depended on the scam working, and e made a full attempt >> to fulfill the conditions (e published a message that would have kept the >> pledge, during the time we thought the scam had worked). The fact that e >> didn't a put a "this is void if the scam fails" (which was a common-sense >> understanding between us) isn't injurious at all, from my personal POV. >> >> Any punishment above a trivial level (I dunno, 1 or 2) would be leveraging >> this pledge to punish em for the scam attempt overall IMO; and nch and I >> were equal partners in the conspiracy. >> >> -G. >> > > Given that G. is in agreement with a minimal fine, I issue an Indictment > finding R. Lee guilty of breaching eir pledge, "Honor in Scammery", > specifying a fine of 1 blot. I recommend that e be found guilty and the > Indictment imposed only because e clearly breached the pledge and e > should have been more careful in drafting it. > > R. Lee, please prepare a defense. > > G., please prepare to initiate the decisions. Maybe this time, we'll > finally get to see how the process works. >
BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer becomes chattel (again) [Attn. Treasuror, Notary]
I amend Chattelbeam to read in full: This contract only has up to two parties, one of the which is the Superzombie and the other is the Supermaster. Cuddlebeam is a party to this contract, and is the Superzombie. This contract's parties can only cease to be a party to this contract by having this contract be destroyed. A Player can become the Supermaster by announcement and making the following Pledge in the same message: "I Pledge that Cuddlebeam will win Agora within 90 days. The N of this Pledge, for the purpose of its Class N Crime of Oathbreaking, is a googleplex." A Supermaster can be Disgraced, or not, and is by default not Disgraced. A non-Disgraced Supermaster can act on behalf of the Superzombie to perform any action on their behalf except for the following: - enter or amend a contract, pledge, or other type of agreement; - initiate a Call for Judgement; - grant consent; - deregister If a Supermaster has been such for more than 90 days... - ...and Cuddlebeam has won Agora during that time, then this Contract is destroyed. - ...and Cuddlebeam has not won Agora during that time, then the Supermaster is Disgraced and Cuddlebeam can amend this Contract by announcement. On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:19 PM Cuddle Beam wrote: > I’m snoozing real hard on Agora again. I had in mind to do the robot > battle thing, but eh, I'm poorer than I thought. > > So here’s the Superzombie contract for meanwhile. > > I transfer all of my assets to my locker. > > I create the following contract called “Chattelbeam”: > > > > This contract only has up to two parties, one of the which is the > Superzombie and the other is the Supermaster. Cuddlebeam is a party to this > contract, and is the Superzombie. This contract's parties can only cease to > be a party to this contract by having this contract be destroyed. > > A Player can become the Supermaster by announcement and making the > following Pledge in the same message: "I Pledge that Cuddlebeam will win > Agora within 90 days. The N of this Pledge, for the purpose of its Class N > Crime of Oathbreaking, is a googleplex." > > > A Supermaster can be Disgraced, or not, and is by default not Disgraced. > > > A non-Disgraced Supermaster can act on behalf of the Superzombie to > perform any action on their behalf except for the following: > > - enter or amend a contract, pledge, or other type of agreement; > > - initiate a Call for Judgement; > > - grant consent; > > - deregister > > > If a non-Cuddlebeam Supermaster has been such for more than 90 days... > >- > >...and Cuddlebeam has won Agora during that time, then this Contract >is destroyed. >- > >... and Cuddlebeam has not won Agora during that time, then the >Supermaster becomes Disgraced and Cuddlebeam can amend this Contract by >announcement from then on. > > > >
BUS: humble agoran farmer becomes chattel (again) [Attn. Treasuror, Notary]
I’m snoozing real hard on Agora again. I had in mind to do the robot battle thing, but eh, I'm poorer than I thought. So here’s the Superzombie contract for meanwhile. I transfer all of my assets to my locker. I create the following contract called “Chattelbeam”: This contract only has up to two parties, one of the which is the Superzombie and the other is the Supermaster. Cuddlebeam is a party to this contract, and is the Superzombie. This contract's parties can only cease to be a party to this contract by having this contract be destroyed. A Player can become the Supermaster by announcement and making the following Pledge in the same message: "I Pledge that Cuddlebeam will win Agora within 90 days. The N of this Pledge, for the purpose of its Class N Crime of Oathbreaking, is a googleplex." A Supermaster can be Disgraced, or not, and is by default not Disgraced. A non-Disgraced Supermaster can act on behalf of the Superzombie to perform any action on their behalf except for the following: - enter or amend a contract, pledge, or other type of agreement; - initiate a Call for Judgement; - grant consent; - deregister If a non-Cuddlebeam Supermaster has been such for more than 90 days... - ...and Cuddlebeam has won Agora during that time, then this Contract is destroyed. - ... and Cuddlebeam has not won Agora during that time, then the Supermaster becomes Disgraced and Cuddlebeam can amend this Contract by announcement from then on.
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Second Victory Auction of July 2020
On 2020-07-23 16:09, N. S. via agora-business wrote: I bid 78 coins I bid 77 coins -- Trigon I LOVE SPAGHETTI transfer Jason one coin nch was here I hereby don't... trust... the dragon... don't... trust... the dragon... Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Petition to the ADoP
On 7/26/20 1:50 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its > current value + 'Justice'). > > I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its > current value + 'Efficiency'). > > I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its > current value + 'Legislation'). I object to the above three intents. -- Jason Cobb
BUS: [Proposal, Petition] Fee-based method fix
I submit the following proposal and petition the H. Promotor to attempt
to pend it with 2 support:
Title: Fee-based de-escalation
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Jason
Coauthors: omd
{
Amend Rule 2579 by replacing the final paragraph with the following:
{
If a Rule purports to provide a fee-based method to perform an action
with a fee of no assets, that Rule enables the performance of the action
by announcement. When using such a method, the actor SHOULD announce
that there was a 0 or empty fee.
}
}
--
Jason Cobb
BUS: Re: OFF: Petition to the ADoP
R. Lee wrote: I petition the H. ADoP to give the office of Coopor an interest I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its current value + 'Justice'). I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its current value + 'Efficiency'). I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its current value + 'Legislation'). I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its current value + 'Participation'). I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its current value + 'Economy').
BUS: (attn Treasuror, Promotor) Okay let's get this over with
I perform Collection for the CCCA's sole Legislative Card (i.e. transfer it to myself, pay it to earn a Pendant, and keep said Pendant). I pay one Pendant to flip "Simpler ribbon switches" to Pending.
BUS: (attn Assessor) Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8477
8477e^ Jason1.0 More officer cards I vote FOR.
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Friendly Neighborhood Notary Petitions the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel for a Change of Interest
I wrote: ATMunn wrote: Dear H. ADoP, I, the Notary of Agora, humbly submit my request for the interests of the office of Notary to be updated. It is my humble opinion that the Notary not only deals with the Economy, but also has interests in player Participation. The Notary puts in a lot of effort into fulfilling eir duties and is currently rewarded very minimally, and is not even able to grant cards to eir fellow Agorans. Therefore, H. ADoP, I request that you use your official authority to flip the Interest switch of Notary to [Economy, Participation] without objection. Long live Agora! Dear H. Notary, As the standard for completing this request is without objection, I find no reason not to make the attempt as requested. I, the ADoP of Agora, hereby intend to flip the Interest switch of Notary to [Economy, Participation] without objection. Please treat Agora right good forever. Having received no objections, I hereby do so.
BUS: [attn Tailor] I like money
I award myself Black glitter. (Disclaimer: I haven't checked whether I already missed a deadline)
Re: BUS: A wild Ponzi scheme appears [attn. Notary]
On 7/21/20 1:03 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > On 7/17/20 8:45 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: >> # SECTION 3: AVOIDING PROSECUTION >> >> The Administrator CAN, with notice, avoid prosecution. When e does so, e >> transfers all coins from this contract to emself, and this contract is >> destroyed. > > I intend, with notice, to avoid prosecution, as this appears to not be > getting any further investment. > Having given notice, I do so, thus transferring each coin from the Ponzi scheme to myself and then destroying the contract. -- Jason Cobb
Re: [@Treasuror, @Referee, @Promotor] Re: BUS: [Proposal][@Notary] Competitive Finger Pointing v2
On 7/23/20 4:53 PM, nix via agora-business wrote: > On 7/20/20 3:26 PM, nix via agora-business wrote: >> I withdraw Competitive Finger Pointing. I forgot that the rules don't >> really support Class 0 Crimes. Here's a version that adds a new thing >> for them: warnings. If someone committed a Class 0 Crime, e can be given >> a Warning. >> >> I pledge to, until the end of this calendar month, either pend or >> withdraw all proposals I submit within 48 hours of submitting them. >> >> I submit the following proposal: > > I pay a pendant to pend Competitive Finger Pointing v2. I point a finger > at myself for breaking the above quoted pledge. > I find the violation to have occurred and resolve this finger by imposing the Cold Hand of Justice. To do so, I levy an unforgivable fine of 1 blot because the proposal was eventually pended and no significant disruption was caused. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
