Re: BUS: But I Won't Do That [Finger Point]

2020-08-23 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
On 8/23/20 4:41 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 8/23/20 7:58 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
> wrote:
>> On 8/17/20 11:39 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>>> On 8/3/20 7:56 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
 I make/consent to the following contract 'Trust Me':

 {
 1.  Only G. CAN join this contract.

 2.  G. CAN terminate this contract by announcement;

 3.  G. SHALL, within one week, perform at least one of the actions
 described in a document that G. has previously published that has the
 SHA-256 hash:
 f7609fa40a997e8f7533eb55e0c74b35800c937c8300aa2f70d4feb320247214
 }
>>>
>>> I point my finger at G. for failure to abide by the above contract.
>>>
>> Because no preponderance of evidence suggests that the contract was
>> violated, I am unable to find this finger pointing to be anything other
>> than SHENANIGANS.
>>
> 
> I point my finger at myself for committing the class 0 crime of
> unjustified gesticulating, in violation of Rule 2478.
> 

I find this finger pointing to be valid and issue a Warning.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


Re: BUS: But I Won't Do That [Finger Point]

2020-08-23 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 8/23/20 7:58 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
wrote:
> On 8/17/20 11:39 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> On 8/3/20 7:56 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>>> I make/consent to the following contract 'Trust Me':
>>>
>>> {
>>> 1.  Only G. CAN join this contract.
>>>
>>> 2.  G. CAN terminate this contract by announcement;
>>>
>>> 3.  G. SHALL, within one week, perform at least one of the actions
>>> described in a document that G. has previously published that has the
>>> SHA-256 hash:
>>> f7609fa40a997e8f7533eb55e0c74b35800c937c8300aa2f70d4feb320247214
>>> }
>>
>> I point my finger at G. for failure to abide by the above contract.
>>
> Because no preponderance of evidence suggests that the contract was
> violated, I am unable to find this finger pointing to be anything other
> than SHENANIGANS.
>

I point my finger at myself for committing the class 0 crime of
unjustified gesticulating, in violation of Rule 2478.

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: BUS: [Registrar] Zombie auction status (and reminder to be funded) [attn. Treasuror, Registrar]

2020-08-23 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 8/22/20 12:18 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> This is an unofficial report on the ongoing August zombie auction.
>
> If there are no further bids, it will end in just over 26 hours, at
> 18:58 UTC on August 23.
>

If doing so would cause Baron von Vanderham's talisman to be transferred
to me, I pay a fee of 140 coins to transfer the talisman of Baron von
Vanderham to myself.

I cause Baron von Vanderham to transfer all of eir liquid assets to myself.

-- 
Jason Cobb



(@Treasuror @Registrar) Re: BUS: [Registrar] Zombie auction

2020-08-23 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business


I pay a fee of 411 coins to transfer the talisman of D. Margaux to myself.

On behalf of D. Margaux, I transfer all of D. Margaux's liquid assets to
myself.

I'm assuming the auction worked in a straightforward way (both of the
above things should fail if I got something wrong).

It looks like the rule clause allowing a zombie master to transfer a
talisman to Agora is gone?  Or am I just being blind.  I don't want to
diverge twg's state so:

I intend with notice to transfer twg's talisman from myself to Agora.

I make the following pledge:
{
If I own D. Margaux's Talisman, I'll resolve the above intent before it
expires, unless it is now or becomes otherwise impossible for me to do so.

I will not perform any actions on behalf of twg until after attempting to
resolve the above intent to transfer between 4-14 days from now.

This pledge terminates when I no longer own twg's talisman.
}


On 8/22/2020 9:18 AM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> This is an unofficial report on the ongoing August zombie auction.
> 
> If there are no further bids, it will end in just over 26 hours, at
> 18:58 UTC on August 23.
> 
> Please remember to make sure you directly own as many Coins as you bid,
> so that you will count as "funded". I'm not sure exactly when you need
> to be funded, but I think it's probably at the moment the auction ends.
> 
> A copy of the description of the auction method is included below the
> other information.
> 
> 
> This auction has four lots, ordered as follows:
> 
> 1. The talisman of D. Margaux
> 2. The talisman of Baron von Vaderham
> 3. The talisman of sukil
> 4. The talisman of Telnaior
> 
> 
> Each player's highest bid:
> 
> Date  Player  Coins
>   --  -
> 2020-08-10 00:35  G.  411
> 2020-08-19 18:58  Jason   140
> 2020-08-19 18:48  Cuddlebeam  131
> 2020-08-16 01:43  Trigon  105
> 2020-08-16 01:19  Aris100
> 2020-08-08 12:38  R. Lee  99
> 2020-08-16 01:15  Falsifian   76
> 2020-08-15 22:04  nix 74
> 2020-08-09 19:10  Murphy  60
> 2020-08-10 00:38  omd 55
> 2020-08-07 22:47  Gaelan  2
> 
> Other bids:
> 
> Date  Player  Coins
>   --  -
> 2020-08-07 21:40  Jason   1
> 2020-08-08 14:09  Jason   3
> 2020-08-08 15:58  Falsifian   10
> 2020-08-08 16:41  Jason   20
> 2020-08-08 19:38  Falsifian   68
> 2020-08-09 19:11  Jason   70
> 2020-08-09 19:13  Trigon  72
> 2020-08-10 07:54  R. Lee  56
> 2020-08-10 12:34  Cuddlebeam  57
> 2020-08-12 01:45  Jason   73
> 2020-08-15 22:07  Jason   75
> 2020-08-16 01:16  Jason   77
> 2020-08-16 01:20  Jason   101
> 2020-08-16 01:45  Jason   106
> 2020-08-16 08:44  R. Lee  94
> 2020-08-17 15:22  Cuddlebeam  108
> 2020-08-17 15:27  Jason   109
> 2020-08-18 08:04  Cuddlebeam  110
> 2020-08-18 12:36  Jason   120
> 2020-08-19 07:22  Cuddlebeam  121
> 2020-08-19 12:42  Jason   125
> 2020-08-19 16:51  Cuddlebeam  126
> 2020-08-19 16:52  Jason   13
> 
> 
> From the original message initiating the auction:
> 
> 
> Method:
> 
> The auction will be conducted as a Forward Auction, as described in the
> Treasuror's draft regulations copied later in this message, with the
> following additional provision:
> 
> * If a talisman that is a lot in this auction ceases to be owned by
>   Agora, then that lot is removed from the auction and the remaining
>   lots (if any) are renumbered accordingly within the list.
> 
> ...
> 
> Treasuror's draft regulations (referred to by the "Method" section
> above):
> {
> METHOD 0: Generalized Auction
> 
> Generalized auctions exist to give context to the form of other types of
> auctions. They cannot be held directly. Other auction methods that use
> this type of auction as a starting point can override attributes of
> generalized auctions except when it is explicitly stated that that
> attribute is not able to be overridden.
> 
> 1. INITIATION:
>* The auctioneer CAN begin an auction that e is authorized to by
>  creating a public message (henceforth the "initiation message"),
>  specifying the type of auction method that will be held, a list of
>  lots that will be auctioned off, and the currency that the auction
>  uses. Bidding is initally open.
>* Derivative auction methods cannot specify the exclusion of any
>  information listed above from the initiation message of auctions
>  using that method.
> 2. BIDDING:
>* Players CAN place a bid on an open auction by creating a public
>  message (henceforth a "bid message") specifying a number of the
>  auction's currency as eir bid not equal to the bid of another
>  player.
>* Players CAN withdraw from an open auction by announcement.
> 3. TERMINATION:
>* Bidding is closed four days after either the beginning of the
>  auction or after the most recent bid was placed, whichever is
>  later. The auction ends at this time as 

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8490-8492

2020-08-23 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-business

I vote as follows:


8490*   Jason3.0   Functional Emergency Regulations

FOR

8491f^  ATMunn   2.0   Minor Speaker fix

FOR

8492*^  Jason3.0   Unscoped RWO

FOR


BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8490-8492

2020-08-23 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
I vote as follows:

> ID  Author(s)AITitle
> ---
> 8490*   Jason3.0   Functional Emergency Regulations

FOR


> 8491f^  ATMunn   2.0   Minor Speaker fix

AGAINST due to the unnecessary RttCN clause.


> 8492*^  Jason3.0   Unscoped RWO

FOR

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3875 Judged FALSE by G.

2020-08-23 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-business


> On Aug 23, 2020, at 10:08 AM, Gaelan Steele  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Aug 23, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ==  CFJ 3875  ===
>>> 
>>>Somewhat Annoying Experiment has exactly 5 coins.
>>> 
>>> ==
>>> 
>>> Caller:Gaelan
>>> 
>>> Judge: G.
>>> Judgement: FALSE
>>> 
>>> ==
>> 
>> I transfer all assets from Somewhat Annoying Experiment. If it now holds no 
>> assets, I destroy that contract. [no reason to suspect this wouldn’t work; 
>> the condition is pure paranoia]
>> 
>> Gaelan
> 
> I, er, transfer all assets from Somewhat Annoying Experiment *to myself*. If 
> it now holds no assets, I destroy that contract.
> 
> See, my paranoia paid off.
> 
> Gaelan

TTttPF

Gaelan


BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3875 Judged FALSE by G.

2020-08-23 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-business



> On Aug 23, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official 
>  wrote:
> 
> ==  CFJ 3875  ===
> 
>  Somewhat Annoying Experiment has exactly 5 coins.
> 
> ==
> 
> Caller:Gaelan
> 
> Judge: G.
> Judgement: FALSE
> 
> ==

I transfer all assets from Somewhat Annoying Experiment. If it now holds no 
assets, I destroy that contract. [no reason to suspect this wouldn’t work; the 
condition is pure paranoia]

Gaelan


BUS: [Arbitor] Rewards

2020-08-23 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business


I grant 5 coins to each of the following players for timely judgements:

  G. (#3875 on 21 Aug):  6.997720 days
  Gaelan (#3874 on 20 Aug):  5.359884 days






Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Glitteral

2020-08-23 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
On 8/23/20 10:11 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 8/23/20 9:03 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-official
> wrote:
>>   * Aug 16: Jason is awarded Transparent Glitter for ROGEBUVPAT,
>>   having been awarded by Proposal 8487
>> I award 14 coins.
>>   * Aug 16: Jason is awarded Transparent Glitter for ROGECBMUVPKAT,
>>   having been awarded by Proposal 8487
>> I award 14 coins.
> 
> 
> "CoE": I don't think I earned transparent glitter twice.
> 
That's correct. I believe that the second should be Trigon:

   * Aug 16: Trigon is awarded Transparent Glitter for ROGECBMUVPKAT,
   having been awarded by Proposal 8487
 I award 14 coins.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Glitteral

2020-08-23 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 8/23/20 9:03 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-official
wrote:
>   * Aug 16: Jason is awarded Transparent Glitter for ROGEBUVPAT,
>   having been awarded by Proposal 8487
> I award 14 coins.
>   * Aug 16: Jason is awarded Transparent Glitter for ROGECBMUVPKAT,
>   having been awarded by Proposal 8487
> I award 14 coins.


"CoE": I don't think I earned transparent glitter twice.

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: BUS: But I Won't Do That [Finger Point]

2020-08-23 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
On 8/17/20 11:39 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 8/3/20 7:56 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>> I make/consent to the following contract 'Trust Me':
>>
>> {
>> 1.  Only G. CAN join this contract.
>>
>> 2.  G. CAN terminate this contract by announcement;
>>
>> 3.  G. SHALL, within one week, perform at least one of the actions
>> described in a document that G. has previously published that has the
>> SHA-256 hash:
>> f7609fa40a997e8f7533eb55e0c74b35800c937c8300aa2f70d4feb320247214
>> }
> 
> 
> I point my finger at G. for failure to abide by the above contract.
> 

Because no preponderance of evidence suggests that the contract was
violated, I am unable to find this finger pointing to be anything other
than SHENANIGANS.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8490-8492

2020-08-23 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
On 8/22/20 11:55 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:
> PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
> 
> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
> and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector
> is the Assessor, the quorum is 7, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
> valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
> conditional votes).
> 
> ID  Author(s)AITitle
> ---
> 8490*   Jason3.0   Functional Emergency Regulations
> 8491f^  ATMunn   2.0   Minor Speaker fix
> 8492*^  Jason3.0   Unscoped RWO
> 
I vote FOR each of these proposals.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth