BUS: [Finger Pointing] Re: Expedited export

2020-11-19 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 04:52:35AM +, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 05:42:00PM +, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister Tyler.
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister Zyborg.
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister Fred.
> > I intend, with notice, to deregister Shelvacu.
> 
> Having given notice:
> 
> I deregister Tyler.
> I deregister Zyborg.
> I deregister Fred.
> I deregister Shelvacu.
> 
> RIP

I Point my Finger at myself, Falsifian, for failing to deregister the
above players in a timely fashion after my last Registrar weekly report,
as required under the last paragraph of Rule 2574.

Arguments:

I'm not sure whether I'm guilty here. From Rule 2574:

> Any player CAN, with notice:
>   - If a zombie has been a zombie for the past 90 days and not had
> Agora for a master during any of that time, transfer the
> talisman for em to Agora;
>   - If a player possesses more than one talisman for persons other
> than emself, specify and transfer one of those talismans to
> Agora;
>   - Deregister a zombie whose resale value is zero and whose
> master is Agora.
>
> The Registrar SHALL track the date for each zombie on which Agora
> was most recently eir master. The Registrar SHALL perform all
> POSSIBLE actions in the preceding paragraph in a timely fashion
> after first reporting their possibility via the facts in eir
> weekly report.

Certainly I (unintentionally) failed to perform the actions within 7
days of my last Registrar report: report published 2020-11-12; actions
taken by announcement 2020-11-20. What's not clear to me is whether the
actions were POSSIBLE.  R2152 defines "POSSIBLE" as "Attempts to perform
the described action are successful". Immediately after publishing my
report, no such attempt could be successful because I had not given
notice, so arguably, the actions were not POSSIBLE when I published the
report.

One counter-argument to this is that the SHALL became binding 4 days
after I announced intent, because it became POSSIBLE then. It's still
questionable whether I "reported [the actions'] possibility" in my
weekly report since they weren't actually POSSIBLE when the report
was published.

Another counter-argument is that announcing intent, waiting between 4
and 14 days, then taking the action by announcement together constitutes
an "attempt", so the actions were indeed POSSIBLE when I published the
report.

-- 
Falsifian


Re: BUS: [Registrar] Expedited export (attn. Shelvacu)

2020-11-19 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 05:42:00PM +, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> I intend, with notice, to deregister Tyler.
> I intend, with notice, to deregister Zyborg.
> I intend, with notice, to deregister Fred.
> I intend, with notice, to deregister Shelvacu.

Having given notice:

I deregister Tyler.
I deregister Zyborg.
I deregister Fred.
I deregister Shelvacu.

RIP

-- 
Falsifian


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Notice of Honour] Wait! Wait! I'm still using it!

2020-11-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
On 11/19/20 11:36 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
> It was a very fun 27 minutes though
> 
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 5:30 PM Lucidiot via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 19/11/2020 17:03, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:
>>>
>>> Wait, wait! We can go full circle!
>>>
>>> This is a Notice of Honor
>>>
>>> +1 Falsifan (because I want to go the whole round around)
>>> -1 Lucidiot (because this is a sacrifice I am willing to take)
>>>
>>> Now we're back to where we started.
>>>
>>
>> Heh.
>>
>> This is a Notice of Honour:
>>
>> +1 Falsifian (for honouring me)
>> -1 CuddleBeam (for dishonouring me)
>>
>> --
>> ~lucidiot
>>
>>

This is a Notice of Honour:
+1 Lucidiot (Agoran Press)
-1 Cuddlebeam (Penalizing a new person)

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


Re: BUS: [Notice of Honour] Wait! Wait! I'm still using it!

2020-11-19 Thread Lucidiot via agora-business
On 19/11/2020 17:03, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:
> 
> Wait, wait! We can go full circle!
> 
> This is a Notice of Honor
> 
> +1 Falsifan (because I want to go the whole round around)
> -1 Lucidiot (because this is a sacrifice I am willing to take)
> 
> Now we're back to where we started.
> 

Heh.

This is a Notice of Honour:

+1 Falsifian (for honouring me)
-1 CuddleBeam (for dishonouring me)

-- 
~lucidiot



Re: BUS: [Notice of Honour] Wait! Wait! I'm still using it!

2020-11-19 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-business
Wait, wait! We can go full circle!

This is a Notice of Honor

+1 Falsifan (because I want to go the whole round around)
-1 Lucidiot (because this is a sacrifice I am willing to take)

Now we're back to where we started.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 4:55 PM ATMunn via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 11/19/2020 12:41 AM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> > This is a Notice of Honour.
> >
> > +1 Lucidiot (First after me to join the Press.)
> > -1 Aris (The Karma system's reaction to an existential threat.)
> >
> > (In case it wasn't abundantly abvious, Aris's -1 is supposed to be
> > funny rather than a slight. I'm sure y'all will have no trouble finding
> > reasons for +1 Aris.)
> >
>
> This is a Notice of Honour.
>
> +1 Aris (being the Promotor)
> -1 Falsifian (disrespecc towards the Promotor)
>
> --
> ATMunn
> friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :)
>


Re: BUS: [Notice of Honour] Wait! Wait! I'm still using it!

2020-11-19 Thread ATMunn via agora-business

On 11/19/2020 12:41 AM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:

This is a Notice of Honour.

+1 Lucidiot (First after me to join the Press.)
-1 Aris (The Karma system's reaction to an existential threat.)

(In case it wasn't abundantly abvious, Aris's -1 is supposed to be
funny rather than a slight. I'm sure y'all will have no trouble finding
reasons for +1 Aris.)



This is a Notice of Honour.

+1 Aris (being the Promotor)
-1 Falsifian (disrespecc towards the Promotor)

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :)