BUS: Pointing out short comings in the community

2022-03-11 Thread Skull cat via agora-business
   1. I point a finger at Jason for the crime of Tardiness for failing to
   publish the Stonemason's weekly report on the week of 21 Feb 2022


I would like to quickly mention that under a more Duck influenced system
this would have never occurred


Re: BUS: The Duck Initiative

2022-03-11 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 3/11/22 23:07, Skull cat via agora-business wrote:
> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to award the patent title "Duck Badge" to
> Trigon, Jason, and myself.
>
>
>1. I cause myself to receive a welcome package
>2. I consent to, create, and join a contract with title "The Duck Fund"
>( Duck, and only duck, can join or leave this contract at any time by
>announcement. )
>3.
>
> RWO: The Duck Fund has 1 coins


I object to each intent in the above message.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



BUS: The Duck Initiative

2022-03-11 Thread Skull cat via agora-business
I intend, with Agoran Consent, to award the patent title "Duck Badge" to
Trigon, Jason, and myself.


   1. I cause myself to receive a welcome package
   2. I consent to, create, and join a contract with title "The Duck Fund"
   ( Duck, and only duck, can join or leave this contract at any time by
   announcement. )
   3.

RWO: The Duck Fund has 1 coins


Re: BUS: registration of duck

2022-03-11 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 3/11/22 21:04, Skull cat via agora-business wrote:
> I register. please call me duck


For the benefit of anybody wondering:

I affirm, under penalty of No Faking, that this is not me.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



BUS: hehe Trigon

2022-03-11 Thread Skull cat via agora-business
Ducks are neat


BUS: registration of duck

2022-03-11 Thread Skull cat via agora-business
I register. please call me duck


BUS: (@Treasuror) Wealthing the Wield Stone

2022-03-11 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-business
I wield the Wealth Stone.
--
secretsnail


Re: BUS: (@arbitor) finger-pointing

2022-03-11 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-business
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 2:20 PM ais523 via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I point a finger at G. for violating rule 2478, committing the Crime of
> Unjustified Gesticulation, by pointing a finger that was subsequently
> found to be Shenanigans.
>

I issue a warning to G. for the above violation. Please take care when
copying and pasting.

--
secretsnail


Re: BUS: (@arbitor) finger-pointing

2022-03-11 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Fri, 2022-03-11 at 13:37 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 6:12 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > I point a finger at Aspen for violating Rule 2143 by failing to
> > publish a notary's report in the week of Feb 28 (that's second
> > missed report in a row I think - despite earlier conversation not
> > personally pointing at single missing weeks).
> 
> I find the above finger point to be shenanigans.

I point a finger at G. for violating rule 2478, committing the Crime of
Unjustified Gesticulation, by pointing a finger that was subsequently
found to be Shenanigans.

-- 
ais523



Re: OFF: [CFJ 3948: G.] [CFJ 3949: Murphy] Re: BUS: [DoV?] Apathy resolution

2022-03-11 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business


On 3/8/2022 1:59 PM, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
> I number the CFJ on the statement [Jason's purported apathy intent was sent
> to all players.] CFJ 3948 and assign it to G.

Judgement:

The relevant rules text in question (Rule 478/40):
  A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent to
  all players and containing a clear designation of intent to be
  public.

Determining whether a message was "sent to all players" is not defined in
the rules, and is explicitly separate from sending via public fora.  So
common definitions/common sense apply.  Further, as suggested by CFJ 3884,
the use of definitions around communication may be medium-dependent.  So
what would constitute "sending to" a player in the
https://discord.gg/JCC6YGc discussion forum?

First, the sole fact that the message was entered in a chat-based
discussion forum is not sufficient for a message posted there to be
considered "sent to" another player, even if that player is a frequent
participant in that forum.  Players are not required to monitor/respond in
discussion forums (CFJ 1888), and in the chat medium, it would be
unreasonable to expect a potential recipient to have received a message
from amongst a stream of generally-unrelated chat based on the message
contents alone.

At a bare minimum, the message (to be considered "sent to" a player) would
need to use the medium-dependent metadata associated with @mentioning a
player in Discord, which provides a generally-persistent flag to the
receiving player that something has been addressed directly to them, which
persists until they view the message.  This changes the effort of the
recipient finding the message from "unreasonable" to "at least somewhat
reasonable."  Requiring this as a bare minimum is a very minor hurdle for
the sender, so it doesn't remove flexibility of the sender in choosing how
to send the message via that medium (R478, in part, allows for Agoran
actions to be taken even if all public fora are inoperative, and in such
situations some flexibility in interpretation might be needed e.g. to
prevent ossification).

I'll note this would be a bare minimum.  For example, if a player was a
member of the forum (capable of being messaged), but hadn't logged in for
some months, this (sending a ping) might still be unreasonable, as there
is no duty to monitor a DIS forum for any length of time, even while being
a member.  That's for future edge cases to decide.  In this case, since
the message in question didn't meet the bare minimum requirement for
"sending to" that would be appropriate for that communication medium, I
judge FALSE.



Re: BUS: (@arbitor) finger-pointing

2022-03-11 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-business
On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 6:12 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I point a finger at ATMunn for violating Rule 2143 by failing to publish a
> notary's report in the week of Feb 21.
>

I levy a fine of 2 Blots on ATMunn for the above crime.


> I point a finger at ATMunn for violating Rule 2143 by failing to publish a
> notary's report in the week of Feb 28.
>

I levy a fine of 2 Blots on ATMunn for the above crime.


> I point a finger at Aspen for violating Rule 2143 by failing to publish a
> notary's report in the week of Feb 28 (that's second missed report in a
> row I think - despite earlier conversation not personally pointing at
> single missing weeks).
>

I find the above finger point to be shenanigans.

On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 6:20 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I point a finger at Aspen for violating Rule 2143 by failing to publish a
> promotor's report in the week of Feb 28.


I levy a fine of 1 Blot on Aspen for the above crime. I specify that this
crime is forgivable, and specify the following words to be included in an
apology:
{
a
it
the
rule
crime
sorrow
promote
forgiven
hopefully
tongueless
}

--
secretsnail


(@Rulekeepor) BUS: Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-03-11 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Sun, 2022-03-06 at 17:06 +, ais523 via agora-official wrote:
> The Device is on.
> 
> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
> device is off:" list:
> {{{
>  A player CAN once a month grant eir Ministry Focus' Device to a
>  specified player by announcement.
> }}}

With Agoran Consent, I do so. (Jason supported; there were no
objections.)

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer