Re: BUS: Deregistration
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Noé Rubinstein noe.rubinst...@gmail.com wrote: I deregister and resume watching. I deregister and continue not watching at all. -- Wooble
BUS: Re: OFF: [assumed Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7610
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: 7610 G. 3 Or 0 I1 - Low-hanging Fruit FOR (although the entire thing fails because The Switch Hypothesis is true.) -- Wooble
BUS: quorum call
For each of the following Players, I intend, Without Objection, to deregister em: Tomas Henri For each of the following Players, I intend, Without Objection, to make em Inactive: Khoyo ais523 Bayushi nichdel omd Philomory Roujo Schrodinger's Cat Sprocklem Telnaior William Eisenburg woggle -- Wooble
BUS: Registering and CFJ
I register.
I CFJ on: {{The Registrar CAN and SHALL deregister Wooble and publish
eir most recent Cantus Cygneus.}}
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Wooble
BUS: a criminal case
I hereby initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that omd, the Registrar, did violate Rule 1789 by failing to public my Cantus Cygneus in a timely fashion after receiving it. I deregister. -- Wooble
BUS: Re: OFF: publicity
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Geoffrey Spear woo...@nomictools.comwrote: This is a Public message. I intend, without objection, to flip the publicity of the mailing lists at * agora-business@agoranomic.org * agora-offic...@agoranomic.org to Public. -- Wooble, your alternate-reality Registrar. This is a Public message. Having received no objections, I flip the Publicity of agora-business@agoranomic.org and agora-offic...@agoranomic.org to Public. I intend to deputise for the Rulekeepor to publish the Full Logical Ruleset, which is shamefully overdue. -- Wooble
BUS: activating
I come off hold. I sit. -- Wooble
BUS: publicity
This is a Public message. I intend, without objection, to flip the publicity of the mailing lists at * agora-business@agoranomic.org * agora-offic...@agoranomic.org to Public. -- Wooble, your alternate-reality Registrar.
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Emergency Distribution of Proposal 7568
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:34 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: 7568 30 O omd, etc. Agora pulls a B + some ratifications FOR * 1
Re: BUS: Stuff
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
In the name of Davy I, Queen of Agora Nomic, CAT 24, and her other realms,
I cause the new rule created by proposal 7537 to amend itself to read:
{{
Notwithstanding rule 2350, any first-class person can also create a
proposal by announcement, specifying the attributes as described in that
rule. (This also adds it to the proposal pool.)
No players other than Fool can register at this time.
Any party with no members is immediately dissolved.
Fool CAN cause this rule to amend itself by announcement, provided he
states that he does so in the name of Davy I, Queen of Agora Nomic, CAT
24, and her other realms.
}}
I publish the following Cantus Cygneus:
{{
Whereas my America citizenship forbids me to become the subject of any
monarch, I hereby express reproach at whomever may have made the
above-quoted stuff possible.
}}
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Wooble
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7338–7339 (again), 7349–7350
I vote as follows: On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: 7338 3.0 Ordinary ais523 cleanup AGAINST 7339 3.0 Ordinary Machiavelli Lesser cleanup AGAINST 7349 1.0 Ordinary G. Tape Cutting Award FOR 7350 1.5 Ordinary G. Justice Fix PRESENT -- Wooble
Re: BUS: Intents
Having received no objections, I make Arkady, moonroof, and Phlogistique inactive (the other two were already inactive and objected, respectively). --Wooble On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Geoffrey Spear woo...@nomictools.com wrote: For each of the following players, I intent, without objection, to make em inactive: Arkady FKA441344 moonroof Phlogistique Yally (None have sent a message to the lists in at least 2 months as far as I can tell, some of them as much as 5 months. Also, it's shocking to me that I'm still Active, but I appear to be.) -- Wooble -- Wooble
BUS: quorum
I vote ENDORSE ais523 on any Agoran Decisions I'm currently an eligible voter for. -- Wooble
BUS: Intents
For each of the following players, I intent, without objection, to make em inactive: Arkady FKA441344 moonroof Phlogistique Yally (None have sent a message to the lists in at least 2 months as far as I can tell, some of them as much as 5 months. Also, it's shocking to me that I'm still Active, but I appear to be.) -- Wooble
Re: BUS: inactivity
I re-intend the quoted intentions: For each of the following players, I intend to make em inactive without objection: Flameshadowxeroshin justine sells Ozymandias scat -- Wooble
BUS: voting
I vote ENDORSE AIS523 on all proposals currently in their voting periods for which I'm an eligible voter. -- Wooble
BUS: activation
I come off hold. -- Wooble
Re: BUS: (no subject)
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:18 PM, FKA441344 441...@gmail.com wrote: I intend to, without objection, cause the office of Registrar to become vacant. I object, mostly because this was done in a message with the subject (No subject) in a thread with a bunch of scam actions. -- Wooble
BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: INACTIVE PLAYERS (2) Nickname Since -- scshunt 10 Jan 12 Sgeo 24 Oct 11 * CoE: On 30 Jan, I deactivated Benu, pikhq, Roujo, Walker, and Wooble without objection. -- Wooble
BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Elections
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:31 AM, 441344 441...@gmail.com wrote: ### Herald Candidates: *G. *441344 ENDORSE G ### IADoP Candidates: *Murphy *441344 ENDORSE MURPHY ### Registrar Candidates: *Murphy *Yally *441344 YALLY -- Wooble
Re: BUS: This will definitely work
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: With Agoran Consent, I intend to register the OmNom Constitution. I object. -- Wooble
Re: BUS: deactivations
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Geoffrey Spear woo...@nomictools.com wrote: For each of the following players, I intend, without objection, to deactivate em: Arkady Benu pikhq Roujo Walker Wooble Having received no objections, I deactivate Benu, pikhq, Roujo, Walker, and Wooble. -- Wooble
BUS: deactivations
For each of the following players, I intend, without objection, to deactivate em: Arkady Benu pikhq Roujo Walker Wooble -- Wooble
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A controversial proposal
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:30 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Mister Snuggles mr.snu...@gmail.com wrote: i support this proposal wholeheartedly. If I am Mister Snuggles, I intend, with Agoran Consent, to deregister. I support and do so. -- Wooble
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A controversial proposal
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Wooble wrote:
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:30 PM, omdc.ome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Mister Snugglesmr.snu...@gmail.com
wrote:
i support this proposal wholeheartedly.
If I am Mister Snuggles, I intend, with Agoran Consent, to deregister.
I support and do so.
Definitely ineffective; it hasn't been 4 days since intent, plus there
aren't more supporters (Tanner, ehird, Wooble) than objectors (Pavitra,
me, woggle).
I CFJ on: {{Wooble is a player.}}
Evidence: above-quoted exchange
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Wooble
BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of proposals 7125-7134
7125 3.0 Tanner Relax / Stroke Hell ENDORSE MURPHY 7126 1.0 scshunt The Government Needs to be More Transparent FOR 7127 1.0 omd AGAINST 7128 3.0 scshunt Fix 2351 ENDORSE G 7129 1.0 scshunt Why did we repeal that victory condition? PRESENT 7130 1.0 Arkady AGAINST 7131 2.0 Murphy Points are pointless unless scorekept FOR 7132 1.0 Pavitra SHALL Promises AGAINST 7133 1.0 omd Rule by Consent AGAINST 7134 2.0 ais523 Invasion Protection AGAINST -- Wooble
Re: BUS: Nomination
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: I nominate Arkady English for Promotor. I nominate myself as Promotor. -- Wooble
Re: BUS: Speed
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:07 AM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, with Agoran Consent, to set the Speed to Slow. I support. -- Wooble
BUS: egaf
I request and require cakes, ale, and registration. -- Wooble
Re: BUS: idlers
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: For each player in the below list, I intend, without objection, to make em inactive: Arkady BobTHJ Droowl Flameshadowxeroshin Math321 Roujo Turiski Having received no objections to any of these except Roujo, I make Arkady, BobTHJ, Droowl, Flameshadowxeroshin, Math321, and Turiski inactive.
BUS: another idler
I intend, without objection, to make Walker inactive. I leave the CFJs for late reports as an exercise for some reader who was CFJed for late reports by em.
BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7119-7124
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:28 AM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: 7119 2 Murphy Numbering fix FOR 7120 1.1 scshunt B is Dead! Long Live B! AGAINST 7121 1 Tiger Short-term ambassador powers AGAINST 7122 1 Tiger Long-term ambassador powers AGAINST 7123 1.7 Murphy Restore stereotypes FOR 7124 2 omd Fix general costs PRESENT
BUS: idlers
For each player in the below list, I intend, without objection, to make em inactive: Arkady BobTHJ Droowl Flameshadowxeroshin Math321 Roujo Turiski
BUS: CFJ: effectiveness of mislabelled proposals
I CFJ on: {{Proposal 7117 amended Rule 2349.}}
Arguments: In the purported distribution of proposal 7117, as well as
in the message purporting to resolve the Agoran Decision to adopt it,
it was listed as having an adoption index of 1, although it was
originally published with an AI of 2. Rule 2349 is Power 2.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: effectiveness of mislabelled proposals
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:38 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote:
I CFJ on: {{Proposal 7117 amended Rule 2349.}}
Arguments: In the purported distribution of proposal 7117, as well as
in the message purporting to resolve the Agoran Decision to adopt it,
it was listed as having an adoption index of 1, although it was
originally published with an AI of 2. Rule 2349 is Power 2.
Gratuitous: When I submitted it, I forgot to label it AI-2, so it was
AI-1 by default.
Oh. I withdraw this CFJ; the amendment trivially fails.
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7111 - 7118
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Wooble wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: *7111 1.0 Tanner L. Points for the Big Guy *7115 1.0 Tanner L. Relax / Stroke Hell CoE: not that either of these would have any effect due to insufficient AI, but these proposals with these purported AIs never existed and thus weren't distributed. Denied. Proposals matching on everything but AI existed and were reasonably clearly identified; the distribution got the AIs wrong (they were actually 2 and 3 respectively), but that wasn't pointed out within a week after distribution, so per R107 it doesn't render the distribution invalid. CoE: Tanner Swett *did* point this out (for 7115, anyway) within a week of distribution: http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg22538.html I'm not sure whether a crime was committed in ignoring the CoE, since R107 doesn't use self-ratification but merely some handwaving about what makes the notice invalid, ignoring what makes it valid (and no, I don't buy any arguments about exceptio probat regulam, precedent to the contrary notwithstanding.) Correctly identified lacks a mechanism anyway; arguably if someone noticed it and didn't bother to publish a CoE it was invalid.
BUS: intent
I intend to deputize for the IADoP to publish eir report. --Wooble
BUS: Impossible job is impossible
I initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that Tiger violated the power-1 Rule 2352 by failing to attempt to cause Agora to become a player of BlogNomic as soon as possible after e became Ambassador. Unfortunately, it's beyond the scope of this case to determine what would actually qualify as attempting to do this duty, since the unsuccessful attempt e did make happened more than 4 days after e was installed.
BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: (The players list is self-ratifying) Thu 28 Jul 13:41 - Wooble registers CoE: I did not register. Fri 29 Jul 16:35 - Wooble deregisters CoE: No I didn't. CoE: Missing my actual registration, and the fact that I'm a player. v Wooble geoffsp...@gmail.com 17 May 11 28 Jun 11 v root ian.g.ke...@gmail.com 29 Jun 11 29 Jun 11 a Sgeo sgeos...@gmail.com 27 Jun 08 31 Jul 11 a Florw flo...@gmail.com 13 Apr 11 31 Jul 11 a Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com 12 Apr 11 31 Jul 11 (doesn't even list my purported deregistration here)
Re: BUS: rebirth
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Arkady English
arkadyenglish+ag...@gmail.com wrote:
I call a CFJ on the statement The player with the e-mail address
'geoffsp...@gmail.com' (Wooble) is a player.
I initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that H. CotC Murphy violated the
Power-2 rule 1868 by failing to assign a judge to the above judicial
case as soon as possible after it became Open.
I submit the following gratuitous arguments in the quoted inquiry case
(not the criminal case):
{{
I allegedly registered at 13:41:01 UTC; my previous deregistration
occurred at 13:41:02 30 days earlier; I was still ineligible for 1
second. This was intended to create secret ambiguity to protest the
lack of to-the-second granularity in the current Registrar's reports.
When I decided that it would be more interesting to be a platonic
player confusingly instead of being a platonic non-player confusingly,
I purportedly deregistered again and then actually registered.
Therefore, at the time this CFJ was called, the statement was FALSE,
although if re-called it would be TRUE.
}}
Pedantically Yours,
Wooble
Re: BUS: Intent
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:21 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause the President to deregister. I support.
BUS: further muddying the waters
I deregister. I register. --Wooble
BUS: rebirth
This is a public message, and I believe that I'm sending it to all current players of Agora even if I'm not sending it via a public forum. I probably intend to become a player at this time, unless I'm already a player, in which case I merely intend to remain a player. Any ambiguities in this message are purely coincidental.
BUS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:34 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET Last proposal with recorded effect on this ruleset: 7083 Last change to this ruleset: by Proposal 7083 CoE: not up to date; Proposal 7101 and earlier modified the ruleset.
BUS: Delving *way* too deep.
This message is a delving attempt. I deregister, relying on the Goal of Rule 869. --Wooble
BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Promotor Election
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I hereby initiate the election for Promotor; the IADoP is the vote collector and the valid options are scshunt and omd. All active players are eligible voters. I vote for Wooble.
BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Battle Stations
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: ELECTIONS - OFFICE: Promotor CANDIDATES: scshunt NOMINATION PERIOD ENDS: 2011-06-10T22:02Z CFJ: Wooble is a candidate in the current Promotor election. Evidence: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I initiate an election for Promotor and nominate myself. I nominate myself as the worst Promotor ever.
Re: BUS: since he's the worst ever
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I initiate an election for Promotor and nominate myself. I nominate myself as the worst Promotor ever.
BUS: Voting
I vote PRESENT as many times as I can on all proposals on which I'm an eligible voter (although I believe they're all probably over quorum anyway).
BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7053-7058
Disclaimer: I might not be a player. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:53 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: 7053 2 omd Encourage controversial proposals FOR 7054 2 Walker Point Speaker AGAINST [Mostly because it allows Speaker to be vacant again 7055 2 scshunt Quickly, now AGAINST 7056 2 Tanner L. Swett Speed notation AGAINST 7057 1 Tanner L. Swett Exile AGAINST 7058 3 Tanner L. Swett Next! FOR
BUS: huh
If and only if Agora was Satisfied with my intent to register with Agoran Consent, I do so. (I count 3 supporters and 3 objectors, but Murphy's count was 4 and 1. I think eir count is almost certainly wrong because ais523 and ehird both unambiguously objected (granted, ais523 *also* unambiguously supported, but I see nothing in the rules to make either negate the other), but that doesn't mean mine is correct.)
BUS: nope nope nope
I intend, with Agoran Consent, to become a player.
BUS: Re: OFF: [Briefly IADoP] Elections
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate an election for Rulekeepor, nominating omd. I intend with Agoran Consent to cause the President to refuse eir nomination as Rulekeepor.
BUS: hrmph
I come off hold. I'm annoyed at the FLR's lack of CFJ annotations. I nominate myself as Rulekeepor. I intend to deputize for the Rulekeepor to publish the FLR. --Wooble
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hrmph
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I also pledge not to deregister in a huff. *huff*. I deregister.
Re: BUS: CoE
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Charles Walker
charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
CoE: I retracted proposal 6996. I intend to deputise for the Promotor
to accept this.
I CFJ on: {{Walker withdrew the proposal that was purportedly
distributed with the ID 6996.}}
Arguments:
The message in which e purportedly did so contained a small snippet of
the original proposal in a 2-deep nested quote, with the statement I
retract the proposal partly quoted above[...]; at issue is whether
this is sufficient to reasonably identify the proposal.
Re: BUS: Promotor
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:01 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: I register. I intend, with 4 support, to initiate an election for Promotor. I publish the following campaign speech: I am not a hash table. I resign as Promotor. I initiate an election for promotor. I nominate omd as Promotor. I resign as IADoP. I go on hold.
Re: BUS: Quiet People
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, without objection, to make BobTHJ inactive. I object!
BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2986 assigned to Wooble
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2986 == CFJ 2986 == There is at least one rule with ID number 1. I judge FALSE. I don't believe TLS even intended for eir purported action to work; I certainly can't find anything in the rules that would authorize a non-Rulekeepor to assign rule IDs even if it weren't blocked altogether by the last paragraph of R105. (Not to mention that just about every message e sends ends with a tidbit that would be ILLEGAL if we hadn't repealed truthiness.)
Re: BUS: cleaning
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, without objection, to deregister Darth Cliche. I intend, without objection, to deregister Flameshadowxeroshin. Having received no objections, I deregister Darth Cliche. Having received no objections, I deregister Flameshadowxeroshin. --Wooble, who briefly considered wording this in an ambiguous way that possibly would have deregistered emself
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6978-6995
I vote as follows, casting exactly one vote on each proposal. 6978 2.0 Murphy The Pear-Shaped Office FOR, although I'd prefer making the Speaker never vacant instead. 6979 1.0 Tanner L. Swett Killing Dragons Is Everything Around Here AGAINST 6980 3.0 Murphy Timey wimey AGAINST 6981 3.0 Murphy Littler Dutch Boy PRESENT 6982 1.0 Tanner L. Swett Thank You For Nothing, You Useless Reptiles AGAINST 6983 3.0 Murphy Fix MMI FOR 6984 2.0 Walker Cleanup FOR 6985 1.0 Walker no equity cases FOR 6986 1.0 Tanner L. Swett Gimme Something To Shoot At AGAINST 6987 3.0 Murphy We Don't Need No Extra Forum AGAINST 6988 3.0 Walker Everything Is Democratic Nowadays PRESENT 6989 2.0 Wooble Bring Back Points FOR 6990 3.0 Murphy Secret ballots AGAINST 6991 1.0 omd Hey, I was using that PRESENT 6992 3.0 Murphy Fix rule numbers ENDORSE OMD 6993 2.0 Murphy Agreement basis PRESENT 6994 2.0 Murphy Agreement tracking PRESENT 6995 1.0 omd Ugliest rule text ever ENDORSE MURPHY
BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Registrar Election
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: This message serves to initiate the Agoran Decision to choose the holder of the Registrar office. The eligible voters are the active first-class players, and the vote collector is the IADoP. The valid options are: Walker, G., ais523 I vote for ais523, mostly because Walker's last report was in a horrible Base64 encoding.
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2982 assigned to Walker
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I appeal this case[s question on sentencing, on the grounds that this punishment is not only excessive, but also because sentencing TIME OUT could very likely have a negative impact on players, thus destroying the long run quality of the game if this is to be established as precedent. Gratuitous arguments on the appeal: there may be a COI here; this sentence would make the Judge's only competition in the upcoming Registrar election ineligible. Not that this fact necessarily makes the sentence inappropriate.
BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: INACTIVE PLAYERS (3) Nickname Inactive since --- Darth Cliche 08 Jan 11 Flameshadowxeroshin 08 Jan 11 Sgeo 08 Mar 11 CoE: Yally has been inactive since 04 Apr 11 CoE, which you illegally didn't respond to the last time it was made: agora-pub...@groups.google.com is a public forum.
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Denied. The sentence was suspended when I appealed the case, the the appeal board hasn't affirmed the decision (yet). I CFJ on Yally became Active when he appealed the question on sentencing in CFJ 2982., barring Yally. Arguments: nothing in the rules seems to indicate that eir Activity would be flipped by the sentence being suspended.
Re: BUS: Proposal
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Charles Walker
charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I submit the following proposal:
{{ Guess how I thought of this (AI 2, please)
I initiate an election for Registrar. I nominate cwalker as Registrar.
BUS: cleaning
I intend, without objection, to deregister Darth Cliche. I intend, without objection, to deregister Flameshadowxeroshin.
BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I deputise for the Registrar to publish the following: Registrar's Census CoE: ais523 is possibly a player. (you can respond by citing CFJ 2980, neither denying or accepting.)
Re: BUS: Application for citizenship
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Wooble wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: I intend (with the consent of Roujo and Wooble) to cause MRW and Associates to intend (with Agoran Consent) to register. I consent. Roujo having also consented, I cause MRW and Associates to so intend. /Now/ you can (effectively) object. I Support.
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2980a assigned to Wooble, Walker, Yally
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 March 2011 17:22, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2980a Appeal 2980a Panelist: Walker Decision: REMAND. ditto.
BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2983 assigned to Wooble
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2983 == CFJ 2983 == G. published an invalid NoV in the quoted message. I judge TRUE. In the original message, there was no indication the relevant section was a quote, and another section of the message intended by G. to be quoted was quoted in a recognizable format.
Re: BUS: Application for citizenship
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: I intend (with the consent of Roujo and Wooble) to cause MRW and Associates to intend (with Agoran Consent) to register. I consent.
Re: BUS: Well, it meets the requirements...
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Oh and, I announce my intent to, as permitted by my role of Vizier, cause the Anemocrats to register with Agoran Consent [agreement last published March 2001 IIRC]. I object!
BUS: intents
I intend to deputize for the Rulekeepor to publish the SLR. I intend, without objection, to cause the President to resign as Rulekeepor.
BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2979 Wooble, omd, G. request reconsideration; still assigned to Wooble
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2979 == CFJ 2979 == I register While the statement I register in the CFJ was not an unambiguous intent to become a player, being wrapped in a CFJ call and thus indicating the caller's implicit belief that the statement's veracity was ambiguous, the following I do so was published at the same time as the CFJ statement. There's no compelling reason to consider the actions in the message as not occurring simultaneously at the instant it was published (as there might be if, for example, it was IMPOSSIBLE for a non-Player to submit a CFJ), so I take the Statement to be equivalent to I am registering at this instant, not This statement is causing me to register. TRUE.
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2980 assigned to omd
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:57 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2980 == CFJ 2980 == ais523 is a player. CFJ 2979 actually ruled on the entire message, not just the first statement: The message in which this CFJ was initiated does not indicate reasonably unambiguously that ais523 intended to become a player at that time. I disagree, but I'll comply with the precedent. FALSE. I disagree too; I completely missed the last line of the original message when rendering my judgment. I intend with 2 support to file a motion to reconsider CFJ 2980. I intend with 2 support to file a motion to reconsider CFJ 2979.
BUS: Proposal: Bring Back Points
I submit the following AI-2 proposal, Bring Back Points:
{{
Create a new Power-2 Rule entitled Points with the following text:
Points are a fixed currency. Ownership of points is restricted to
Players. A player's score is the number of points e owns. Changes
to point holdings are secured.
The Scorekeepor is an office, and the recordkeepor of points.
Create a new Power-2 Rule entitled Proposal Points with the following text:
When the Agoran Decision to adopt a proposal is resolved:
* if the outcome is ADOPTED, the author of the proposal gains 2
points for each valid vote FOR the proposal, less 1 point for
each valid vote AGAINST the proposal. Each co-author of the
proposal gains 2 points.
* if the outcome is REJECTED, the author of the proposal loses 2
points for each valid vote AGAINST the proposal, less 1 point
for each valid vote FOR the proposal. If e would lose fewer
than 2 points, e loses 2 points.
* if the outcome is FAILED QUORUM, the author of the proposal
gains 2 points.
Create a new Power-2 Rule entitled Winning with the following text:
A player CAN destroy 250 points in eir possession to win the
game. When a player wins the game, the Scorekeepor is authorized
to award em the patent title Champion.
}}
BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2979 assigned to Wooble
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2979 == CFJ 2979 == I register I judge FALSE. The message in which this CFJ was initiated does not indicate reasonably unambiguously that ais523 intended to become a player at that time. By initiating a CFJ into the matter, ais523 has explicitly indicated that the statement's veracity is in doubt, creating ambiguity. --Wooble
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Registrar Election
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: The probability of the job almost certainly not getting done if the President holds it aside, will publishing a report this week change your mind? You're already required to do it; why should anyone vote for you based on the fact that you're thinking of possibly doing it if it will influence votes? I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause the President to intend to deputize to publish the Registrar's report. I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause the President to deputize for the Registrar to publish the Registrar's report. I intend, without objection, to cause the President to publish the Registrar's report.
BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census
CoE: Date of this report: Sat 19 Mar 2011 Was published on 20 Mar. Fora: (PF = Public Forum, DF = Discussion Forum) PF agora-offic...@agoranomic.org (official reports) PF agora-business@agoranomic.org (other business) DF agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org (discussion) DF irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/##nomic (discussion) PF no...@yoyo.its.monash.edu.au (backup) PF ag...@listserver.tue.nl (backup) Missing agora-public
BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Registrar Election
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: This message serves to initiate the Agoran Decision to choose the holder of the Registrar office. The eligible voters are the active first-class players and the vote collector is the IADoP. The options for Registrar are Yally and The President. I vote for The President.
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Registrar] Census
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 09:19, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: Tiger jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com 02 Feb 09 I CoE: Tiger is not a player. Admitted. Additionally, Flameshadowxeroshin was not deregistered at the time Tiger was. Corrected report: Registrar's Census Date of last report: Tue 08 Mar 2011 Date of this report: Tue 08 Mar 2011 Date of last manual ratification: Fri 4 Jul 08 Date of report last manually ratified: Sun 29 Jun 08 (The players list is self-ratifying) (All times are UTC) Recent events - - time of last report - Active Players: 8 first class FIRST-CLASS PLAYERS (12) NicknameE-mail address Since Status --- BobTHJ pidge...@gmail.com 28 Dec 10 Darth Clichekenner...@gmail.com 16 Dec 10 I ehird penguinoftheg...@gmail.com 26 Feb 09 Flameshadowxeroshin flameshadowxeros...@gmail.com10 Nov 10 I G. ke...@u.washington.edu 29 Oct 09 Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com 27 Oct 07 Roujo jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com 16 Dec 10 scshunt ride...@gmail.com03 Mar 11 Sgeosgeos...@gmail.com 27 Jun 08 I Tanner L. Swett ihope...@gmail.com 21 Sep 09 I Wooble geoffsp...@gmail.com 03 Mar 11 Yally aarongoldf...@gmail.com 07 Feb 09 Status: I = Inactive SECOND-CLASS PLAYERS (1) Player ContactSince The President c/o the Speaker 3 Mar 2011 INACTIVE PLAYERS (4) Nickname Inactive since --- Darth Cliche 08 Jan 11 Flameshadowxeroshin08 Jan 11 Sgeo 08 Mar 11 Tanner L. Swett20 Dec 10 * - can be deregistered Without Objection WATCHERS (16) Nickname E-mail address Requested -- bd_ b...@fushizen.net18 Jan 09 Blaiseblaisepas...@gmail.com 01 Dec 07 Chad cmil...@brainsprain.net28 Dec 00 Cubingcub...@gmail.com 27 Oct 07 Dave davidni...@gmail.com 06 Jan 03 * David Westbrook xmb...@gmail.com 01 Sep 04 Dino o...@bigfoot.com 24 Jun 99 Endymion endym...@trioptimum.com17 Jun 07 Kelly Martin kelly.lynn.mar...@gmail.com16 Mar 05 Maud Lynn maud.l...@gmail.com31 May 07 maymudes da...@maymudes.net 08 Feb 01 Nameless pr769...@hotmail.com 13 May 09 Phlogistique noe.rubinst...@gmail.com 16 Sep 08 * Roujo jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com 30 Nov 10 Steve steven.gard...@arts.monash.edu.au 20 Dec 07 * WoodsPam roycewoods...@gmail.com10 Jan 09 * = confirmed still watching as of Apr 09 MAILING LISTS Subscribe or unsubscribe from main lists: http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo Subscribe or unsubscribe to monash.edu.au backup list at: http://yoyo.its.monash.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/nomic Subscribe or unsubscribe from tue.nl backup list: http://listserver.tue.nl/mailman/listinfo/agora The IRC channel does not require subscription; set your IRC client to server irc.freenode.net, port 6667, channel ##nomic, and whatever nickname you like. Fora: (PF = Public Forum, DF = Discussion Forum) PF agora-offic...@agoranomic.org (official reports) PF agora-business@agoranomic.org (other business) DF agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org (discussion) DF irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/##nomic (discussion) PF no...@yoyo.its.monash.edu.au(backup) PF ag...@listserver.tue.nl (backup) REGISTRATION HISTORY (a)bandoned This section is imperfect. (v)oluntary Corrections are welcomed. (l)awless (w)rit of FAGE (p)roposal (d)eported (k) deregistered emself accidentally Left in 1994: Timothy timothy.fergu...@jcu.edu.au unknown 12 Sep 94= Left in 1995: Jason2 unknown 95 Susanunknown 95 Brian Greer unknown Aug 95 TAL ku
Re: BUS: cleanup
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, without objection, to deregister Ienpw III. I intend, without objection, to deregister Keba. I intend, without objection, to deregister Tiger. Having received no objections, I deregister Ienpw III, Keba, and Tiger. I intend, without objection, to make Sgeo inactive. Having received no objections, I make Sgeo inactive.
BUS: Presidential Elections
I initiate an election for Registrar. I nominate The President as Registrar. I initiate an election for Rulekeepor. I nominate The President as Rulekeepor. I cause the President to accept eir nominations as Registrar and Rulekeepor. --Speaker Wooble
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Presidential Elections
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:11 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote:
CFJ: The President is Rule 2326.
Arguments:
Precedent from The Monster suggests TRUE.
Gratuitous arguments: In this case, R2326 actually defines what the
President is, and it's a second-class player, not a Rule.
Proto-CFJ: {{Wooble is the Power-2 rule 103.}}
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Now that there's no Justiciar to worry about
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: scshunt wrote: On 11-03-05 02:48 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: Three of the inquiry cases numbered -1 (initiated by ehird in December 2010) have open appeals. I assign each of these appeal cases to the panel of omd, scshunt and Wooble. See http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/stare_detail/negative1.txt for the past history of these cases. I was the original judge, I don't think I'm eligible for the appeal. Whoops, you're right. I transfer a prop from myself to scshunt for-- wait a minute. CoE on my above-quoted message, accepted: scshunt was the original judge, so panels containing em are ineligible. I assign each of the above-described appeals to the panel of omd, Wooble and Yally. I re-opine OVERRULE/IRRELEVANT. With extreme prejudice.
BUS: Proposal: clean up remnants
Proposal, clean up remnants, AI-2
{{
Repeal Rule 2153 (Interest Index).
In Rule 2143 (Official Reports and Duties), replace:
Class-N
crime of Tardiness, where N is the Interest Index of that
office.
with
Class-2
crime of Tardiness.
In Rule 1871 (The Standing Court), remove the following paragraph:
A sitting player that assigns judgement in a disinterested
judicial case CAN and MAY become standing by announcement in the
same message in which e assigns judgement to that case.
In Rule 2230 (Notices of Violation), replace:
A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (NoV) for a fee of N
ergs,
with:
A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (NoV) with N support,
}}
Re: BUS: Now that there's no Justiciar to worry about
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Three of the inquiry cases numbered -1 (initiated by ehird in December 2010) have open appeals. I assign each of these appeal cases to the panel of omd, scshunt and Wooble. See http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/stare_detail/negative1.txt for the past history of these cases. I opine OVERRULE with replacement judgment of IRRELEVANT on all 3.
BUS: Elections
I initiate an election for Assessor. I nominate Murphy as Assessor. I initiate an election for Herald. I nominate G. as Herald. I initiate an election for IADoP. I nominate Wooble as IADoP. I initiate an election for Promotor. I nominate Wooble as Promotor. I initiate an election for Rulekeepor. I nominate omd as Rulekeepor.
Re: BUS: Popular uprising
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote:
I submit the following AI-1 proposal Out with the Dictator 1:
{{
Repeal Rule 2324.
[This is ineffective if the purported escalations worked.]
}}
I submit the following AI-3 proposal Out with the Dictator 3:
{{
Repeal Rule 2324.
}}
I remove both of these proposals from the pool.
BUS: Proposal: pool cleaning
I submit the following AI-3 proposal, Pool Cleaning:
{{
[There is no longer a mechanism for removing old undistributable
proposals from the pool, and while proposals now default to
Distributable, there is no way to make an existing Undistributable
proposal Distributable. AI-3 because removing proposals is secured.]
Each Undistributable proposal in the Proposal Pool is removed from the pool.
}}
BUS: goin' a courtin'
I sit up.
Re: BUS: blah
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote:
I deputize for the Assessor to publish the following:
{{
Voting results for Proposal 6961:
[This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
following proposals. For each decision, the options available to
Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!).]
*6961 D1 3.0 G. 52-pickup v2
6961
BobTHJ A
ehird F
G. F
Murphy P
Tiger F
CoE: This definitely failed, as Roujo isn't Tiger.
BUS: cleanup
I intend, without objection, to deregister Ienpw III. I intend, without objection, to deregister Keba. I intend, without objection, to deregister Tiger. I intend, without objection, to make Sgeo inactive. I intend, without objection, to make Yally inactive. --Wooble
BUS: Proposal: I miss ais523
I submit the following proposal, I miss ais523:
{{
Repeal Rule 1750 (Read the Ruleset Week).
}}
Re: BUS: 80-pickup
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: I vote AGAINST proposal 6962. ditto.
BUS: intent to deputize
I intend to deputize for the Registrar to publish eir weekly report. I'd NoV for lateness, but I don't know if I can spend 0 ergs at the moment.
BUS: Re: OFF: Proposal 6959 Results
I deregister. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I assume the office of Assessor. This notice resolves the Agoran decision of whether to adopt proposal 6959 (Fugue in G.) Some Properties: Ordinary, II=1, Author=G., AI=3.2, Urgent Votes: G. (1xFOR) F/A: 1/0 AI: 3.2 VI: Unanimous Quorum: 1 Voters: 1 Result: ADOPTED TEXT OF ADOPTED PROPOSAL Change the power of Rule 2324 (Dictatorship) to 3.0. Enact a Rule, Coda with a power of 3.2 and the following text: The gamestate is hereby set to what it would have been if the message sent by G. to the public forum on or about Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:56:46 -0800 (PST) with the subject line 'scorched earth escalation' (Message-ID: alpine.lrh.2.01.1101231056460.23...@hymn11.u.washington.edu) was sent to a discussion forum and not any public forum. Amend 2130 (Activity) by appending the following to the first paragraph: Changes to Activity are Secured. Amend Rule 1006 (Offices) by appending the following to the second paragraph: A person CANNOT be made the holder of an elected office without eir explicit or reasonably implied consent. Amend Rule 2312 (The Pariah) by replacing the first paragraph with this text: The Pariah is an elected office with no duties. Whenever a player becomes the Pariah, that player is awarded a sufficient number of Rests in order to bring eir total Rests up to 23. Award G. the Patent Title First Violin. Award omd the Patent Title Second Fiddle. Award Murphy the Patent Title 273rd Prepared Piano. Repeal Rule 2324 (Dictatorship). Repeal the Rule entitled Coda. Set G.'s Power to 0. END PROPOSAL TEXT I resign the office of Assessor (apologies, Murphy, that I can't auto-give-it-back to you).
BUS: pope fatigue
I resign all offices I hold. I go on hold.
BUS: Popular uprising
I submit the following AI-1 proposal Out with the Dictator 1:
{{
Repeal Rule 2324.
[This is ineffective if the purported escalations worked.]
}}
I submit the following AI-3 proposal Out with the Dictator 3:
{{
Repeal Rule 2324.
}}
