Re: [cfj] Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract-Specific Contracts
I withdraw the below cfj (given Gaelan's statement that e was actively curating Greg's output, it's been more-or-less answered). -G. On 7/21/2020 4:06 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I cfj: If messages to-date from "greg" are primarily constructed by a > bot, the below finger-pointings apply to the natural person most > responsible for the messages being sent to Agoran fora. > > On 7/20/2020 6:54 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> I point the finger at Greg, for violating No Faking by claiming (via >> signature) to be Trigon: >> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044216.html >> >> I point the finger at Greg, for violating No Faking by claiming (via >> signature) to be Publius Scribonius Scholasticus: >> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044227.html >> >> There is a clear implication of identity when using a signature. This is >> a direct lie in at least 1 of these situations (from immediate evidence, >> likely both). Further, each instance shows a clear intent to mislead Agora >> as to this person's identity. On Discord, after the first message above, >> Trigon got asked if e was running a fake but forgot to change eir >> signature. So this misleading announcement was pernicious enough to >> result in direct accusations of criminal behavior on a (most likely?) >> innocent person. >> >> -G. >>
Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract-Specific Contracts
On 7/20/20 9:54 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > I point the finger at Greg, for violating No Faking by claiming (via > signature) to be Trigon: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044216.html I find Gaelan to be in violation of No Faking in this instance and impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying an unforgivable fine of two blots. > > I point the finger at Greg, for violating No Faking by claiming (via > signature) to be Publius Scribonius Scholasticus: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044227.html I find Gaelan to be in violation of No Faking in this instance and impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying an unforgivable fine of two blots. > > There is a clear implication of identity when using a signature. This is > a direct lie in at least 1 of these situations (from immediate evidence, > likely both). Further, each instance shows a clear intent to mislead Agora > as to this person's identity. On Discord, after the first message above, > Trigon got asked if e was running a fake but forgot to change eir > signature. So this misleading announcement was pernicious enough to > result in direct accusations of criminal behavior on a (most likely?) > innocent person. When these were pointed, I was going to raise the possibility that I was Greg, and therefore G. couldn't do this, but now it's not relevant. Since we know who Greg was and that e was a player, I believe that punishment should be imposed; however, I will keep it to the base value given that Gaelan has come forward. Because Gaelan exercised active control over the messages, I believe that Greg is Gaelan for these purposes. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
[cfj] Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract-Specific Contracts
I cfj: If messages to-date from "greg" are primarily constructed by a bot, the below finger-pointings apply to the natural person most responsible for the messages being sent to Agoran fora. On 7/20/2020 6:54 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I point the finger at Greg, for violating No Faking by claiming (via > signature) to be Trigon: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044216.html > > I point the finger at Greg, for violating No Faking by claiming (via > signature) to be Publius Scribonius Scholasticus: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044227.html > > There is a clear implication of identity when using a signature. This is > a direct lie in at least 1 of these situations (from immediate evidence, > likely both). Further, each instance shows a clear intent to mislead Agora > as to this person's identity. On Discord, after the first message above, > Trigon got asked if e was running a fake but forgot to change eir > signature. So this misleading announcement was pernicious enough to > result in direct accusations of criminal behavior on a (most likely?) > innocent person. > > -G. >
Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract-Specific Contracts
I point the finger at Greg, for violating No Faking by claiming (via signature) to be Trigon: https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044216.html I point the finger at Greg, for violating No Faking by claiming (via signature) to be Publius Scribonius Scholasticus: https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044227.html There is a clear implication of identity when using a signature. This is a direct lie in at least 1 of these situations (from immediate evidence, likely both). Further, each instance shows a clear intent to mislead Agora as to this person's identity. On Discord, after the first message above, Trigon got asked if e was running a fake but forgot to change eir signature. So this misleading announcement was pernicious enough to result in direct accusations of criminal behavior on a (most likely?) innocent person. -G.
Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract-Specific Contracts
I submit the following proposal, "Agoran Bit-streaming", AI-2:
{
[ACT]
Amend the rule "Holidays" by deleting "Agoran Week" from
the list of the Week-long Events.
[S]
Amend the rule "Contracts", except to include "Agoran Contracts",
then by appending the following
{
Amend the rule "Contracts" by appending the following
{
Amend the rule "Fee-based Actions" by inserting the following
{
Amend the rule "Fee-based Actions" by replacing all instances
of "Agoran" with "Agoran Contracts".
{
Amend the rule "Fee-based Actions" by replacing all instances
of "Agoran" with "Agoran Contracts".
}
}
}
}
}
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