Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intent Proposal

2019-05-26 Thread D. Margaux
This is a good suggestion, Aris. I withdraw my prior intent proposals and
resubmit this proposal:

/

Title: Intent is Important (v1.1)
AI: 2
Author: D Margaux
Coauthor:  Aris

[Comment: I don’t think we should be fining people for actions unless they
knew or should know they are violating the rules (what the criminal law
calls a “guilty mind”).]

In Rule 2531, in the list that follows this text:

“Any attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE if:”

Add the following text as paragraph 3:

“(3) the perp likely did not know and reasonably should not be expected to
have known that e violated the rules as a result of the action or inaction
that is the reason for the levy;”

And renumber the rest of the list accordingly.


/

On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 7:26 PM Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe try “does not appear to have known”? Otherwise, the gamestate depends
> on someone’s actual mental state, which is impossible to determine given
> the limits of current technology.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 4:24 PM D. Margaux  wrote:
>
> > Crap.
> >
> > I withdraw that proposal. I resubmit it with AI = 2 and author D.
> Margaux.
> >
> > > On May 26, 2019, at 7:23 PM, D. Margaux  wrote:
> > >
> > > I don’t think we should be fining people for actions unless they knew
> or
> > should know they are violating the rules (what the criminal law calls a
> > “guilty mind”).
> > >
> > > I submit a proposal:
> > >
> > > Title: Intent is Important
> > >
> > > In Rule 2531, in the list that follows this text:
> > >
> > > “Any attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE if:”
> > >
> > > Add the following text as paragraph 3:
> > >
> > > “(3) the perp did not know and reasonably should not be expected to
> have
> > known that e violated the rules as a result of the action or inaction
> that
> > is the reason for the levy;”
> > >
> > > And renumber the rest of the list accordingly.
> >
>
-- 
D. Margaux


Re: BUS: Intent Proposal

2019-05-26 Thread D. Margaux
Crap. 

I withdraw that proposal. I resubmit it with AI = 2 and author D. Margaux. 

> On May 26, 2019, at 7:23 PM, D. Margaux  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think we should be fining people for actions unless they knew or 
> should know they are violating the rules (what the criminal law calls a 
> “guilty mind”). 
> 
> I submit a proposal:
> 
> Title: Intent is Important
> 
> In Rule 2531, in the list that follows this text:
> 
> “Any attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE if:”
> 
> Add the following text as paragraph 3:
> 
> “(3) the perp did not know and reasonably should not be expected to have 
> known that e violated the rules as a result of the action or inaction that is 
> the reason for the levy;”
> 
> And renumber the rest of the list accordingly.


BUS: Intent Proposal

2019-05-26 Thread D. Margaux
I don’t think we should be fining people for actions unless they knew or should 
know they are violating the rules (what the criminal law calls a “guilty 
mind”). 

I submit a proposal:

Title: Intent is Important

In Rule 2531, in the list that follows this text:

“Any attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE if:”

Add the following text as paragraph 3:

“(3) the perp did not know and reasonably should not be expected to have known 
that e violated the rules as a result of the action or inaction that is the 
reason for the levy;”

And renumber the rest of the list accordingly.