Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8504-8506
On 10/11/20 9:22 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: > I vote as follows: > > On 10/4/20 3:01 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: >> ID Author(s)AITitle >> --- >> 8504e^ G. 1.0 easier bargains > PRESENT >> 8505e^ Jason1.0 Card clarifications > FOR >> 8506p^ ATMunn, G. 1.0 Happy Belated Birthday v2 > FOR > > I cause sukil to vote ENDORSE Trigon on all of the above proposals > > -- > Trigon > > I’m always happy to become a party to contracts. > I LOVE SPAGHETTI > transfer Jason one coin > nch was here > I hereby > don't... trust... the dragon... > don't... trust... the dragon... > Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this By my count, this is 5 hours too late. -- Jason Cobb
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8504-8506
I vote as follows: On 10/4/20 3:01 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: ID Author(s)AITitle --- 8504e^ G. 1.0 easier bargains PRESENT 8505e^ Jason1.0 Card clarifications FOR 8506p^ ATMunn, G. 1.0 Happy Belated Birthday v2 FOR I cause sukil to vote ENDORSE Trigon on all of the above proposals -- Trigon I’m always happy to become a party to contracts. I LOVE SPAGHETTI transfer Jason one coin nch was here I hereby don't... trust... the dragon... don't... trust... the dragon... Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8504-8506
On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 03:59:09PM +, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > I vote as follows. > > > ID Author(s)AITitle > > --- > > 8504e^ G. 1.0 easier bargains > FOR > > > 8505e^ Jason1.0 Card clarifications > FOR > > > 8506p^ ATMunn, G. 1.0 Happy Belated Birthday v2 > PRESENT I act on behalf of twg to cast a vote endorsing Falsifian in each of the above three decisions. I change my vote on Proposal 8506 to AGAINST. -- Falsifian
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8504-8506
I vote FOR Proposals 8504-8506. On 10/4/2020 5:01 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes). ID Author(s)AITitle --- 8504e^ G. 1.0 easier bargains 8505e^ Jason1.0 Card clarifications 8506p^ ATMunn, G. 1.0 Happy Belated Birthday v2 The proposal pool contains the following proposals: Author(s)AITitle --- Falsifian2.0 No Zombie Races Legend: * : Democratic proposal. # : Ordinary proposal, unset chamber. e : Economy ministry proposal (ordinary). f : Efficiency ministry proposal (ordinary). j : Justice ministry proposal (ordinary). l : Legislation ministry proposal (ordinary). p : Participation ministry proposal (ordinary). ^ : Sponsored proposal. The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where the information shown below differs from the information shown above, the information shown above shall control. // ID: 8504 Title: easier bargains Adoption index: 1.0 Author: G. Co-authors: Amend Rule 2627 (The General Store) by replacing: a list of 6 or more rules-defined card types with: a list of 4 or more rules-defined card types with at least two of the types being different [Commentary: make bargains easier, but ensure they're not identical (double-rewards) for base trades.] // ID: 8505 Title: Card clarifications Adoption index: 1.0 Author: Jason Co-authors: Amend Rule 2624 as follows: - Replace "The type of card with the fewest existing instances" with "The single type of card with the fewest existing instances (if any)" - Replace all instances of "the card's associated ministry" with "a ministry associated with the card". [Right now the text assumes that each type of card has only a single associated ministry, but this is not true because of the recent change for the Ministry of Economy. There's also ambiguity with what happens if multiple types of card are tied for fewest instances.] // ID: 8506 Title: Happy Belated Birthday v2 Adoption index: 1.0 Author: ATMunn Co-authors: G. Amend Rule 2585, "Birthday Gifts", by adding the following paragraph before the sentence "Players are ENCOURAGED to announce their Agoran Birthdays.": During the 7 days following the end of a player's Agoran Birthday, if nobody granted em any coins via this rule, any player CAN once grant em 2 coins by announcement, wishing em a Happy Belated Birthday. If this proposal was resolved later than September 28, 2020, then ATMunn is granted 2 coins for every vote on this proposal that evaluated to FOR. // Title: No Zombie Races Adoption index: 2.0 Author: Falsifian Co-authors: Amend Rule 1885 by replacing "existed at the beginning of the month" with "exist". [Comment: With the current text, the Registrar is in an awkward position if at least one eligible talisman existed at the start of the month, but none exist by the time e gets around to starting an auction.] // -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :)
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8504-8506
On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 8:59 AM Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > > I vote as follows. > > > ID Author(s)AITitle > > --- > > 8504e^ G. 1.0 easier bargains Conditional: ENDORSE G., unless that is unresolvable, in which case FOR. > > 8505e^ Jason1.0 Card clarifications Conditional: ENDORSE Jason, unless that is unresolvable, in which case FOR. > > 8506p^ ATMunn, G. 1.0 Happy Belated Birthday v2 AGAINST. A number of bugs have been pointed out. I wish we'd found out about them earlier, but we're here now, so... On behalf of Telnaior: Telnaior votes to ENDORSE me on each decision I voted on in this message. -Aris
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8504-8506
On 10/4/20 4:01 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: > > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, > and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector > is the Assessor, the quorum is 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the > valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are > conditional votes). > > ID Author(s)AITitle > --- > 8504e^ G. 1.0 easier bargains PRESENT > 8505e^ Jason1.0 Card clarifications FOR > 8506p^ ATMunn, G. 1.0 Happy Belated Birthday v2 PRESENT; I'm a little confused by the wording. Does this mean they can only be granted 2 coins period, or only 2 by each player? -- nix Webmastor
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8504-8506
I cause Baron von Vanderham to vote to ENDORSE me in every referendum currently in its voting period. I vote as follows: > 8504e^ G. 1.0 easier bargains FOR > 8505e^ Jason1.0 Card clarifications FOR > 8506p^ ATMunn, G. 1.0 Happy Belated Birthday v2 > ENDORSE Falsifian -- Jason Cobb
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8504-8506
I vote as follows. > ID Author(s)AITitle > --- > 8504e^ G. 1.0 easier bargains FOR > 8505e^ Jason1.0 Card clarifications FOR > 8506p^ ATMunn, G. 1.0 Happy Belated Birthday v2 PRESENT Comment on 8506: > Amend Rule 2585, "Birthday Gifts", by adding the following paragraph > before the sentence "Players are ENCOURAGED to announce their Agoran > Birthdays.": > >During the 7 days following the end of a player's Agoran Birthday, if >nobody granted em any coins via this rule, any player CAN once grant >em 2 coins by announcement, wishing em a Happy Belated Birthday. It's not clear what period of time "if nobody granted em any coins via this rule" is referring to. For example, this could be interpreted to mean only the first attempt to grant 2 Coins during the following 7 days works, or this paragraph only applies if the player has never recieved any grants under this rule at all. Also (assuming it's been fixed so it works as apparently intended) it means if I notice someone's birthday at the last minute, it's kinder for me to wait and grant 2 coins instead of granting 3 right away. Seems like a strange incentive. How about instead saying every time someone has a birthday, each other player can once grant em Coins by announcement, and (if you want to keep this part) it's 3 coins if it's on the day itself, otherwise 2. -- Falsifian
