BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8538-8540

2021-02-06 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-business

I vote as follows:


8538*~  Aris, Jason 3.0   All Good Things Must Come to an End

FOR

8539*   Aris, G.3.0   The Great Rollback

FOR

8540*   nix, Aris, Jason3.0   Strengthening Extra Votes v2.1

FOR



BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8538-8540

2021-02-03 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-business

On 2/3/21 2:34 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:

ID  Author(s)   AITitle
---
8538*~  Aris, Jason 3.0   All Good Things Must Come to an End

FOR

8539*   Aris, G.3.0   The Great Rollback

FOR, and thank you Aris

8540*   nix, Aris, Jason3.0   Strengthening Extra Votes v2.1
AGAINST, but purely as a symbolic gesture because it makes me sad to see 
my best idea get killed.


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BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8538-8540

2021-02-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
I vote as follows:

> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 8538*~  Aris, Jason 3.0   All Good Things Must Come to an End
FOR

> 8539*   Aris, G.3.0   The Great Rollback
FOR

> 8540*   nix, Aris, Jason3.0   Strengthening Extra Votes v2.1
FOR

-- 
Falsifian


BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8538-8540

2021-02-03 Thread ATMunn via agora-business

I vote FOR each proposal distributed in the quoted message below.

On 2/3/2021 4:34 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:

PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW

I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector
is the Assessor, the quorum is 6, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
conditional votes).

ID  Author(s)   AITitle
---
8538*~  Aris, Jason 3.0   All Good Things Must Come to an End
8539*   Aris, G.3.0   The Great Rollback
8540*   nix, Aris, Jason3.0   Strengthening Extra Votes v2.1

The proposal pool is currently empty.

Legend: * : Democratic proposal.
 # : Ordinary proposal, unset chamber.
 c : Compliance ministry proposal (ordinary).
 e : Economy ministry proposal (ordinary).
 g : Legacy ministry proposal (ordinary).
 l : Legislation ministry proposal (ordinary).
 p : Participation ministry proposal (ordinary).
 ~ : Unsponsored proposal.

The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
the information shown above shall control.

//
ID: 8538
Title: All Good Things Must Come to an End
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Aris
Co-authors: Jason


Enact a new power 3.15 rule entitled "Burn It With Fire", with the
following text:

   All Emergency Regulations are hereby repealed, destroyed, and
   incinerated.

   If it has been 1 second since this rule was adopted, this
   rule repeals itself.

//
ID: 8539
Title: The Great Rollback
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Aris
Co-author(s): G.


[This is a proposal to repeal bodies of law, which are essentially
unused and make the ruleset far more complicated than it needs to be.]

If this proposal has already taken effect, then it has no effect. If,
but for this sentence, Rule 101 would not exist as a rule after this proposal
ceases taking effect, then the remainder of this proposal has
no effect.


Enact a new power-3.5 rule entitled "Statutory Instrumentation
Simultaneity", reading:

   Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, the proposal which enacted this
   rule CAN make multiple rule changes, which it could otherwise make
   individually, simultaneously. When it attempts to do so, if any single
   rule change it attempts is INEFFECTIVE, then so is the entire attempt.

   If the proposal which enacted this rule makes a change to the
   definition of a rule then, except for rules which are simultaneously
   and explicitly enacted or repealed with that change,
   the rules after that change are exactly the entities that were rules
   beforehand. This is a definition of the interpretation of the
   amendment to the rules and not, in and of itself, a rule change.


Apply the following rule changes simultaneously: {

   Repeal Rule 2611, "Instruments".
   Repeal Rule 2612, "Bodies of Law".
   Repeal Rule 2613, "Effects of Instruments".

   Amend Rule 1688, "Power", by, all as part of the same amendment,
 1. Replacing:
 A statute is a document with positive Power.
with:
 An instrument is an entity with positive Power.
 2. Replacing:
 A Rule that makes a change, action, or value secured (hereafter
 the securing Rule) thereby makes it IMPOSSIBLE to perform that
 change or action, or to set or modify that value, except as
 allowed by a Statute with Power greater than or equal to the
 change's Power Threshold.
   with:
 A Rule that makes a change, action, or value secured (hereafter
 the securing Rule) thereby makes it IMPOSSIBLE to perform that
 change or action, or to set or modify that value, except as
 allowed by an instrument with Power greater than or equal to the
 change's Power Threshold.


   Amend Rule 2438, "Ribbons", by replacing "A statute" with "An instrument".


   Amend Rule 105, "Rule Changes" by, all as part of the same
   amendment:
 1. Replacing:
 Where permitted by other rules, a statute generally can, as
 part of its effect,
   with:
 When the rules provide that an instrument takes effect, it can
 generally:
 2. Replacing each instance of "statute" with "instrument".


   Amend Rule 2140, "Power Controls Mutability", by changing it to read in full:

 Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no entity with power below
 the power of this rule can

 1. cause an entity to have power greater than its own.

 2. adjust the power of an instrument with power greater than its own.

 3. set or modify any 

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8538-8540

2021-02-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 2/3/21 4:34 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:
> 8538*~  Aris, Jason 3.0   All Good Things Must Come to an End

FOR


> 8539*   Aris, G.3.0   The Great Rollback

FOR


> 8540*   nix, Aris, Jason3.0   Strengthening Extra Votes v2.1

FOR

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8538-8540

2021-02-03 Thread nix via agora-business


On 2/3/21 3:34 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 8538*~  Aris, Jason 3.0   All Good Things Must Come to an End
FOR
> 8539*   Aris, G.3.0   The Great Rollback
FOR
> 8540*   nix, Aris, Jason3.0   Strengthening Extra Votes v2.1

FOR
-- 
nix
Webmastor, Ministor, Herald




BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8538-8540

2021-02-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
I vote as follows:
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 8538*~  Aris, Jason 3.0   All Good Things Must Come to an End
FOR
> 8539*   Aris, G.3.0   The Great Rollback
FOR
> 8540*   nix, Aris, Jason3.0   Strengthening Extra Votes v2.1

PRESENT for now. While I agree something like this is necessary, I'm
sad to see chambers go and I'm also a bit worried it might be OP. IDK,
I'll think about it.

-Aris


BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8538-8540

2021-02-03 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-business
 I vote FOR all

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 10:35 PM Aris Merchant via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
>
> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
> and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote
> collector
> is the Assessor, the quorum is 6, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
> valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
> conditional votes).
>
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 8538*~  Aris, Jason 3.0   All Good Things Must Come to an End
> 8539*   Aris, G.3.0   The Great Rollback
> 8540*   nix, Aris, Jason3.0   Strengthening Extra Votes v2.1
>
> The proposal pool is currently empty.
>
> Legend: * : Democratic proposal.
> # : Ordinary proposal, unset chamber.
> c : Compliance ministry proposal (ordinary).
> e : Economy ministry proposal (ordinary).
> g : Legacy ministry proposal (ordinary).
> l : Legislation ministry proposal (ordinary).
> p : Participation ministry proposal (ordinary).
> ~ : Unsponsored proposal.
>
> The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
> the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
> the information shown above shall control.
>
> //
> ID: 8538
> Title: All Good Things Must Come to an End
> Adoption index: 3.0
> Author: Aris
> Co-authors: Jason
>
>
> Enact a new power 3.15 rule entitled "Burn It With Fire", with the
> following text:
>
>   All Emergency Regulations are hereby repealed, destroyed, and
>   incinerated.
>
>   If it has been 1 second since this rule was adopted, this
>   rule repeals itself.
>
> //
> ID: 8539
> Title: The Great Rollback
> Adoption index: 3.0
> Author: Aris
> Co-author(s): G.
>
>
> [This is a proposal to repeal bodies of law, which are essentially
> unused and make the ruleset far more complicated than it needs to be.]
>
> If this proposal has already taken effect, then it has no effect. If,
> but for this sentence, Rule 101 would not exist as a rule after this
> proposal
> ceases taking effect, then the remainder of this proposal has
> no effect.
>
>
> Enact a new power-3.5 rule entitled "Statutory Instrumentation
> Simultaneity", reading:
>
>   Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, the proposal which enacted this
>   rule CAN make multiple rule changes, which it could otherwise make
>   individually, simultaneously. When it attempts to do so, if any single
>   rule change it attempts is INEFFECTIVE, then so is the entire attempt.
>
>   If the proposal which enacted this rule makes a change to the
>   definition of a rule then, except for rules which are simultaneously
>   and explicitly enacted or repealed with that change,
>   the rules after that change are exactly the entities that were rules
>   beforehand. This is a definition of the interpretation of the
>   amendment to the rules and not, in and of itself, a rule change.
>
>
> Apply the following rule changes simultaneously: {
>
>   Repeal Rule 2611, "Instruments".
>   Repeal Rule 2612, "Bodies of Law".
>   Repeal Rule 2613, "Effects of Instruments".
>
>   Amend Rule 1688, "Power", by, all as part of the same amendment,
> 1. Replacing:
> A statute is a document with positive Power.
>with:
> An instrument is an entity with positive Power.
> 2. Replacing:
> A Rule that makes a change, action, or value secured (hereafter
> the securing Rule) thereby makes it IMPOSSIBLE to perform that
> change or action, or to set or modify that value, except as
> allowed by a Statute with Power greater than or equal to the
> change's Power Threshold.
>   with:
> A Rule that makes a change, action, or value secured (hereafter
> the securing Rule) thereby makes it IMPOSSIBLE to perform that
> change or action, or to set or modify that value, except as
> allowed by an instrument with Power greater than or equal to the
> change's Power Threshold.
>
>
>   Amend Rule 2438, "Ribbons", by replacing "A statute" with "An
> instrument".
>
>
>   Amend Rule 105, "Rule Changes" by, all as part of the same
>   amendment:
> 1. Replacing:
> Where permitted by other rules, a statute generally can, as
> part of its effect,
>   with:
> When the rules provide that an instrument takes effect, it can
> generally:
> 2. Replacing each instance of "statute" with "instrument".
>
>
>   Amend Rule 2140, "Power Controls Mutability", by changing it to read in
> full:
>
> Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no entity with power below
> the power of this rule can
>