Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
I vote as follows: > > 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance AGAINST, per ais523. I will say that I was already planning to vote AGAINST this, but ais523 stated some of the issues well. A change like this requires more discussion. > > 8636& G. 1.5 Points FOR > > 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 AGAINST. This doesn't sound that fun to me. -Aspen
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
I vote: > ID Author(s) AITitle > --- > 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance AGAINST. I prefer, for continuity, that ossification prevention keeps at least 1 player in the game. > 8636& G. 1.5 Points FOR > 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 FOR
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
On 1/31/22 19:24, grok via agora-business wrote: > If CFJ 3943 is TRUE, then I was a player two hours before the Agoran > decisions on adopting these proposals were initiated. It was judged FALSE [0]. [0]: https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2022-January/048174.html -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
If CFJ 3943 is TRUE, then I was a player two hours before the Agoran decisions on adopting these proposals were initiated. On Mon, Jan 31, 2022, 5:30 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 1/31/22 14:32, grok via agora-business wrote: > > I vote as follows: > > > >> 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance > > FOR > >> 8636& G. 1.5 Points > > PRESENT > >> 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 > > PRESENT > > > These votes fail as you were not a player when the decisions were > initiated. > > -- > Jason Cobb > > Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason > >
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
I vote as follows: > 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance FOR > 8636& G. 1.5 Points PRESENT > 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 PRESENT On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 2:41 PM Aspen via agora-official wrote: > > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, > and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector > is the Assessor, the quorum is 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the > valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are > conditional votes). > > ID Author(s) AITitle > --- > 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance > 8636& G. 1.5 Points > 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 > > > The proposal pool is currently empty. > > Legend: * : Democratic proposal. > & : Ordinary proposal. > ~ : Unsponsored proposal. > > The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where > the information shown below differs from the information shown above, > the information shown above shall control. > > // > ID: 8635 > Title: Outside assistance > Adoption index: 4.0 > Author: Murphy > Co-author(s): > > > Amend Rule 1698 (Agora Is A Nomic) by replacing "players" with > "persons". > > [Explicitly avoids the interpretation suggested on CFJ 8591 that > the "players making arbitrary changes" clause requires a current > player, even if registration remains unblocked.] > > // > ID: 8636 > Title: Points > Adoption index: 1.5 > Author: G. > Co-author(s): > > > Create the following power=1.5 rule, Points: > > A player's Score, indicated in Points, is an integer player switch > defaulting to 0, tracked by the Herald. > > Upon a correct announcement from a player that one or more players > have a score of 100+ points, all players meeting this condition > win the game. If a least one player wins the game via such an > announcement, all players' scores are set to their default. > > // > ID: 8637 > Title: Basic Scoring v0.2 > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: G. > Co-author(s): Jason > > > Create the following rule, "Scoring": > > Each time a player fulfills a scoring condition, the officer > associated with the condition CAN once by announcement, and SHALL > in an officially timely fashion, add to that player's score the > associated amount of points. > > Below is a list of scoring conditions and their associated points > and officers. > > * Being the author of a sponsored proposal that takes effect: > 1 + the power of the proposal when it takes effect (Assessor). > > * Being the coauthor of a sponsored proposal that takes effect: > 1 (Assessor). > > * Having submitted an unconditional ballot AGAINST a referendum on > a sponsored proposal, provided that the ballot is valid at > the time the referendum is assessed, and provided that the outcome > of that assessment is ADOPTED: points equal to the voting > player's voting strength on the referendum (Assessor). > > [note: using "1 + the power of the proposal when it takes effect" instead > of "the AI of the proposal" because the AI is unlimited while power > iscapped at 4 by R106]. > > [v0.2 - specified "add" instead of "change". > - change in referendum wording suggested by Jason. > ] > > //
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
I vote FOR all On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 7:33 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 1/31/22 00:44, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > > I vote as follows: > >> 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance > > PRESENT > > > > > >> 8636& G. 1.5 Points > > FOR > > > > > >> 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 > > AGAINST > > -- > > > > secretsnail9 > > > Unfortunately you are not eligible to vote in these decisions, as you > were not a player when they were initiated. > > -- > Jason Cobb > > Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason > >
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
On 1/31/22 00:44, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > I vote as follows: >> 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance > PRESENT > > >> 8636& G. 1.5 Points > FOR > > >> 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 > AGAINST > -- > > secretsnail9 Unfortunately you are not eligible to vote in these decisions, as you were not a player when they were initiated. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
I vote as follows: > 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance PRESENT > 8636& G. 1.5 Points FOR > 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 AGAINST -- secretsnail9
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
I vote as follows: 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance FOR 8636& G. 1.5 Points FOR 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 FOR
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
I vote as follows. > ID Author(s) AITitle > --- > 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance AGAINST > 8636& G. 1.5 Points PRESENT > 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 PRESENT -- Falsifian
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
I vote as follows: > 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance ENDORSE ais253 > 8636& G. 1.5 Points FOR > 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 PRESENT -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
I vote FOR all. On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:41 PM Aspen via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, > and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote > collector > is the Assessor, the quorum is 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the > valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are > conditional votes). > > ID Author(s) AITitle > --- > 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance > 8636& G. 1.5 Points > 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 > > > The proposal pool is currently empty. > > Legend: * : Democratic proposal. > & : Ordinary proposal. > ~ : Unsponsored proposal. > > The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where > the information shown below differs from the information shown above, > the information shown above shall control. > > // > ID: 8635 > Title: Outside assistance > Adoption index: 4.0 > Author: Murphy > Co-author(s): > > > Amend Rule 1698 (Agora Is A Nomic) by replacing "players" with > "persons". > > [Explicitly avoids the interpretation suggested on CFJ 8591 that > the "players making arbitrary changes" clause requires a current > player, even if registration remains unblocked.] > > // > ID: 8636 > Title: Points > Adoption index: 1.5 > Author: G. > Co-author(s): > > > Create the following power=1.5 rule, Points: > > A player's Score, indicated in Points, is an integer player switch > defaulting to 0, tracked by the Herald. > > Upon a correct announcement from a player that one or more players > have a score of 100+ points, all players meeting this condition > win the game. If a least one player wins the game via such an > announcement, all players' scores are set to their default. > > // > ID: 8637 > Title: Basic Scoring v0.2 > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: G. > Co-author(s): Jason > > > Create the following rule, "Scoring": > > Each time a player fulfills a scoring condition, the officer > associated with the condition CAN once by announcement, and SHALL > in an officially timely fashion, add to that player's score the > associated amount of points. > > Below is a list of scoring conditions and their associated points > and officers. > > * Being the author of a sponsored proposal that takes effect: > 1 + the power of the proposal when it takes effect (Assessor). > > * Being the coauthor of a sponsored proposal that takes effect: > 1 (Assessor). > > * Having submitted an unconditional ballot AGAINST a referendum on > a sponsored proposal, provided that the ballot is valid at > the time the referendum is assessed, and provided that the outcome > of that assessment is ADOPTED: points equal to the voting > player's voting strength on the referendum (Assessor). > > [note: using "1 + the power of the proposal when it takes effect" instead > of "the AI of the proposal" because the AI is unlimited while power > iscapped at 4 by R106]. > > [v0.2 - specified "add" instead of "change". > - change in referendum wording suggested by Jason. > ] > > // >
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8635-8637
On Fri, 2022-01-28 at 12:40 -0800, Aspen via agora-official wrote: > ID Author(s) AITitle > --- I vote as follows: > 8635* Murphy 4.0 Outside assistance AGAINST. There's still some CFJ uncertainty about how this part of rule 1698 operates, and it seems at least somewhat important to maintain at least one player – otherwise it's possible to take public actions by sending an email to 0 people, which may mean that everyone is atomically performing every possible action at every possible time. > 8636& G. 1.5 Points PRESENT. I'm happy to leave it to the rest of Agora to decide whether this is a mechanic they'd be interested in or not. > 8637& G., Jason 1.0 Basic Scoring v0.2 Conditional: PRESENT if 8636 has been enacted, otherwise AGAINST. -- ais523
