BUS: Votes

[Edward Murphy via agora-business]

I vote as follows:

Prime Minister - [Janet, 4st, snail, ais523]

Referee - [ais523, juan]

BUS: Votes for Proposals 8851-8856

[ziproot via agora-business]

I vote:
FOR proposal 8851.
FOR proposal 8852.
FOR proposal 8853.
AGAINST proposal 8855.

I am not voting on proposals 8854 or 8856 as I am new and do not feel
like I can make an informed decision on these two proposals as of now.

BUS: Votes In This Time if Year

[Rose Strong via agora-business]

I transfer one victory card to Trigon.

BUS: Votes? In This Economy?

[Rose Strong via agora-business]

I transfer one vp to Trigon.

-Cuddlybanana

Re: BUS: Votes on new Decision to adopt Proposal 8164

[James Cook]

I vote FOR Proposal 8164, referring to the Decision to adopt Proposal
8164 with a voting period that is currently ongoing.

Re: BUS: Votes on new Decision to adopt Proposal 8164

[Kerim Aydin]

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 10:33 AM Gaelan Steele  wrote:
>
> In all Agoran decisions regarding the adoption of 8164, I vote FOR. G may act 
> on my behalf to vote FOR in Agoran decisions on which I have not yet voted; 
> this permission is revocable at any time.
>

First use of this offer (if any) will constitute my agreement to its terms.

Re: BUS: Votes on new Decision to adopt Proposal 8164

[D. Margaux]

I vote and cause L to vote FOR proposal 8164

> On Mar 8, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Right then.
> 
> I vote FOR Proposal 8164 (referring to the Decision to adopt this proposal
> with the voting period that is currently ongoing).
> On behalf of Halian, I likewise vote FOR Proposal 8164.
> 
> On behalf of Halian I do:
> Notice of Honour
> +1 twg (for providing a thorough timeline analysis of a complex situation,
> and thereby finding the solution).
> -1 L (guilt by forced association).
> 
>> On 3/7/2019 3:55 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> To be painfully clear, I distribute the below proposal, initiating the
>> Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
>> pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is
>> 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid options are FOR and
>> AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes).
>> [Same note as last time.]
>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 3:53 PM Aris Merchant <
>> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> As Promotor, I distribute Proposal 8164 as follows.
>>> 
>>> [Whether or not it has already been distributed is complex and,
>>> apparently, subject to retroactive change; my attempt to distribute is
>>> unconditional to avoid causing further problems.]
>>> 
 On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 5:34 PM D. Margaux  wrote:
 
 Pursuant to the Living Zombie contract, I hereby cause ATMunn to issue the
 Cabinet Order of Manifesto to distribute the below proposal, initiating
 the
 Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
 pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is
 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid options are FOR and
 AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes).
 
 
 Proposal ID: 8164
 Title: Correction to Agoran Satisfaction, Version 2.4
 Author: Falsifian
 Co-authors: ais523, D. Margaux, G., twg
 Adoption Index: 3.1
 Text:
 
 The gamestate, excluding the rules, is changed to what it would have
 been if the text of the following amendment to Rule 2124 had determined
 whether Agora was Satisfied with any intents attempted after Proposal
 7815, rather than the text of what Rule 2124 was at that time. To the
 extent allowed by the rules, this change is designated as a convergence.
 
 Rule 2124 is amended by replacing its text with the following:
 
  A Supporter of an intent to perform an action is an eligible
  entity who has publicly posted (and not withdrawn) support (syn.
  "consent") for an announcement of that intent. An Objector to an
  intent to perform an action is an eligible entity who has publicly
  posted (and not withdrawn) an objection to the announcement of
  that intent.
 
  The entities eligible to support or object to an intent to perform
  an action are, by default, all players, subject to modification by
  the document authorizing the dependent action. However, the
  previous sentence notwithstanding, the initiator of the intent is
  not eligible to support it.
 
  Agora is Satisfied with an intent to perform a specific action
  unless at least one of the following is true:
 
  1. The action is to be performed Without N Objections, and there
 are at least N Objectors to that intent.
 
  2. The action is to be performed With N support, and there are
 fewer than than N Supporters of that intent.
 
  3. The action is to be performed with N Agoran Consent, and the
 number of Supporters of the intent is less than or equal to N
 times the number of Objectors to the intent.
 
  The above notwithstanding, if an action depends on objections, and
  an objection to an intent to perform it has been withdrawn within
  the past 24 hours, then Agora is not Satisfied with that intent.
 
  The above notwithstanding, Agora is not satisfied with an intent
  if the Speaker has objected to it in the last 48 hours.
 
  A person CANNOT support or object to an announcement of intent
  before the intent is announced, or after e has withdrawn the same
  type of response.
 --
 D. Margaux
 
>>> 

Re: BUS: Votes on new Decision to adopt Proposal 8164

[Gaelan Steele]

In all Agoran decisions regarding the adoption of 8164, I vote FOR. G may act 
on my behalf to vote FOR in Agoran decisions on which I have not yet voted; 
this permission is revocable at any time. 

Gaelan

> On Mar 8, 2019, at 7:59 AM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Right then.
> 
> I vote FOR Proposal 8164 (referring to the Decision to adopt this proposal
> with the voting period that is currently ongoing).
> On behalf of Halian, I likewise vote FOR Proposal 8164.
> 
> On behalf of Halian I do:
> Notice of Honour
> +1 twg (for providing a thorough timeline analysis of a complex situation,
> and thereby finding the solution).
> -1 L (guilt by forced association).
> 
>> On 3/7/2019 3:55 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> To be painfully clear, I distribute the below proposal, initiating the
>> Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
>> pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is
>> 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid options are FOR and
>> AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes).
>> [Same note as last time.]
>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 3:53 PM Aris Merchant <
>> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> As Promotor, I distribute Proposal 8164 as follows.
>>> 
>>> [Whether or not it has already been distributed is complex and,
>>> apparently, subject to retroactive change; my attempt to distribute is
>>> unconditional to avoid causing further problems.]
>>> 
 On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 5:34 PM D. Margaux  wrote:
 
 Pursuant to the Living Zombie contract, I hereby cause ATMunn to issue the
 Cabinet Order of Manifesto to distribute the below proposal, initiating
 the
 Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
 pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is
 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid options are FOR and
 AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes).
 
 
 Proposal ID: 8164
 Title: Correction to Agoran Satisfaction, Version 2.4
 Author: Falsifian
 Co-authors: ais523, D. Margaux, G., twg
 Adoption Index: 3.1
 Text:
 
 The gamestate, excluding the rules, is changed to what it would have
 been if the text of the following amendment to Rule 2124 had determined
 whether Agora was Satisfied with any intents attempted after Proposal
 7815, rather than the text of what Rule 2124 was at that time. To the
 extent allowed by the rules, this change is designated as a convergence.
 
 Rule 2124 is amended by replacing its text with the following:
 
  A Supporter of an intent to perform an action is an eligible
  entity who has publicly posted (and not withdrawn) support (syn.
  "consent") for an announcement of that intent. An Objector to an
  intent to perform an action is an eligible entity who has publicly
  posted (and not withdrawn) an objection to the announcement of
  that intent.
 
  The entities eligible to support or object to an intent to perform
  an action are, by default, all players, subject to modification by
  the document authorizing the dependent action. However, the
  previous sentence notwithstanding, the initiator of the intent is
  not eligible to support it.
 
  Agora is Satisfied with an intent to perform a specific action
  unless at least one of the following is true:
 
  1. The action is to be performed Without N Objections, and there
 are at least N Objectors to that intent.
 
  2. The action is to be performed With N support, and there are
 fewer than than N Supporters of that intent.
 
  3. The action is to be performed with N Agoran Consent, and the
 number of Supporters of the intent is less than or equal to N
 times the number of Objectors to the intent.
 
  The above notwithstanding, if an action depends on objections, and
  an objection to an intent to perform it has been withdrawn within
  the past 24 hours, then Agora is not Satisfied with that intent.
 
  The above notwithstanding, Agora is not satisfied with an intent
  if the Speaker has objected to it in the last 48 hours.
 
  A person CANNOT support or object to an announcement of intent
  before the intent is announced, or after e has withdrawn the same
  type of response.
 --
 D. Margaux
 
>>> 

BUS: Votes on new Decision to adopt Proposal 8164

[Kerim Aydin]

Right then.

I vote FOR Proposal 8164 (referring to the Decision to adopt this proposal
with the voting period that is currently ongoing).
On behalf of Halian, I likewise vote FOR Proposal 8164.

On behalf of Halian I do:
Notice of Honour
+1 twg (for providing a thorough timeline analysis of a complex situation,
and thereby finding the solution).
-1 L (guilt by forced association).

On 3/7/2019 3:55 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:

To be painfully clear, I distribute the below proposal, initiating the
Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is
5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid options are FOR and
AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes).

[Same note as last time.]

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 3:53 PM Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:


As Promotor, I distribute Proposal 8164 as follows.

[Whether or not it has already been distributed is complex and,
apparently, subject to retroactive change; my attempt to distribute is
unconditional to avoid causing further problems.]

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 5:34 PM D. Margaux  wrote:


Pursuant to the Living Zombie contract, I hereby cause ATMunn to issue the
Cabinet Order of Manifesto to distribute the below proposal, initiating
the
Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is
5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid options are FOR and
AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional votes).


Proposal ID: 8164
Title: Correction to Agoran Satisfaction, Version 2.4
Author: Falsifian
Co-authors: ais523, D. Margaux, G., twg
Adoption Index: 3.1
Text:

The gamestate, excluding the rules, is changed to what it would have
been if the text of the following amendment to Rule 2124 had determined
whether Agora was Satisfied with any intents attempted after Proposal
7815, rather than the text of what Rule 2124 was at that time. To the
extent allowed by the rules, this change is designated as a convergence.

Rule 2124 is amended by replacing its text with the following:

  A Supporter of an intent to perform an action is an eligible
  entity who has publicly posted (and not withdrawn) support (syn.
  "consent") for an announcement of that intent. An Objector to an
  intent to perform an action is an eligible entity who has publicly
  posted (and not withdrawn) an objection to the announcement of
  that intent.

  The entities eligible to support or object to an intent to perform
  an action are, by default, all players, subject to modification by
  the document authorizing the dependent action. However, the
  previous sentence notwithstanding, the initiator of the intent is
  not eligible to support it.

  Agora is Satisfied with an intent to perform a specific action
  unless at least one of the following is true:

  1. The action is to be performed Without N Objections, and there
 are at least N Objectors to that intent.

  2. The action is to be performed With N support, and there are
 fewer than than N Supporters of that intent.

  3. The action is to be performed with N Agoran Consent, and the
 number of Supporters of the intent is less than or equal to N
 times the number of Objectors to the intent.

  The above notwithstanding, if an action depends on objections, and
  an objection to an intent to perform it has been withdrawn within
  the past 24 hours, then Agora is not Satisfied with that intent.

  The above notwithstanding, Agora is not satisfied with an intent
  if the Speaker has objected to it in the last 48 hours.

  A person CANNOT support or object to an announcement of intent
  before the intent is announced, or after e has withdrawn the same
  type of response.
--
D. Margaux

BUS: Votes on Proposals

[D. Margaux]

On the below proposals, I cause L to ENDORSE me and I vote as follows:

> Proposal ID: 8164
> Title: Correction to Agoran Satisfaction, Version 2.4
> Author: Falsifian
> Co-authors: ais523, D. Margaux, G., twg
> Adoption Index: 3.1
 FOR


> 8165  D Margaux, Gaelan   3.0   Dependent Action Cleanup Act
FOR


> 8166  D Margaux, twg  2.0   Politics Election Bug Fix
FOR


> 8167  G.  1.0   Ritual Sacrifice
FOR


> 8168  G.  1.0   No more meh
PRESENT


> 8169  twg, [1]1.0   Spaceship Armour Defaults
AGAINST per Ørjan



> 8170  G.  1.0   line-item veto 2.02
FOR



> 8171  G.  1.0   The Tiger Team
FOR



> 8172  Aris3.0   SLR Ratification
PRESENT



> 8173  Murphy, Ørjan   3.2   Effective deference
AGAINST—I agree with Gaelan’s concerns 

BUS: Votes

[Edward Murphy]

I vote as follows:

8152 FOR
8153 FOR (inadvertent mistakes can be papered over by auto-ratification)
8154 AGAINT
8155 PRESENT
8156 FOR
8157 FOR
8158 AGAINST (if it somehow exists after all)
8159 FOR
8160 FOR
8161 FOR
8162 FOR
8163 FOR

BUS: Votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote FOR 8008 and FOR 8009.

BUS: votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote FOR all Agoran Decisions to adopt proposals that are
currently in their voting periods.

Re: BUS: Votes and stuff

[Josh T]

Oh right the office is spelled "Reportor" silly autocorrect

I vote myself for Reportor.

天火狐

On 6 September 2017 at 16:59, Josh T  wrote:

> I vote myself for Reporter.
>
> For all other elections, I would like to remind everyone else of my newest
> agency.
>
> 天火狐
>

BUS: Votes and stuff

[Josh T]

I vote myself for Reporter.

For all other elections, I would like to remind everyone else of my newest
agency.

天火狐

Re: BUS: Votes

[V.J Rada]

Additionally on
7863*  Quazie1.2  Why should outsiders...
I VOTE PRESENT


On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 4:04 PM, V.J Rada  wrote:

> 7958*  Aris, [1] 3.0  Assets v7
> I VOTE FOR
> 7859*  Quazie, grok  1.7  Gentle Judicial Updates
> I VOTE FOR
> 7860*  Quazie1.7  Cards are power 1.7
> I VOTE PRESENT
> 7861*  Quazie, [2]   3.0  Trivia(l)
> Believing that the triviality of proposals should remain vague, I VOTE FOR
> 7862*  Quazie, [3]   1.7  Betterer Pledges
> I VOTE FOR
> 7863*  Quazie1.2  Why should outsiders
>

BUS: Votes

[V.J Rada]

7958*  Aris, [1] 3.0  Assets v7
I VOTE FOR
7859*  Quazie, grok  1.7  Gentle Judicial Updates
I VOTE FOR
7860*  Quazie1.7  Cards are power 1.7
I VOTE PRESENT
7861*  Quazie, [2]   3.0  Trivia(l)
Believing that the triviality of proposals should remain vague, I VOTE FOR
7862*  Quazie, [3]   1.7  Betterer Pledges
I VOTE FOR
7863*  Quazie1.2  Why should outsiders

BUS: Votes

[Quazie]

In all agoran decisions currently up for vote:
   If that decision is about a proposal written by ais523:
  I endorse ais523 on that agoran decision.

BUS: Votes from Tiger on proposals 7698--7710

[Jonatan Kilhamn]

I vote as follows:

7698 1   ais523  Ribbons 2014
AGAINST

7699 3   scshunt Immutability
FOR

7700 1   Henri   Office Salary
FOR

7701 2   Henri   Credits
FOR

7702 1   Henri   Minister for Social Stratification
FOR

7703 1   G.  hard reset
AGAINST

7704 1   G.  Fixes the Oxford comma issue, too
FOR

7705 3   omd Inclusive proposal competitions
FOR

7706 3   omd Fast Track
FOR

7707 1   WarrigalDeplatonification
AGAINST

7708 1   Murphy  No bottom dealing
AGAINST

7709 1   Murphy  Nature abhors a vacuum
AGAINST

7710 3   G.  Defining Reasonable Review
FOR


-- 
Tiger, desperate punter

BUS: Votes in elections

[Jonatan Kilhamn]

I cast the following votes in the elections, in order of appearance:

scshunt, ais523, omd, G.

-Tiger

BUS: Votes

[Alex Smith]

I vote FOR on each proposal on which I have not already voted.

-- 
ais523

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

I vote as follows

7601

-- 
Ben Schultz

BUS: Votes for 7601 to 7609

[Thelas Staloras]

I vote as follows:
7601 - PRESENT
7602 - AGAINST
7603 - AGAINST
7604 - If there is a rulekeepor, ENDORSE RULEKEEPOR.  Otherwise, FOR.
7605 - PRESENT
7606 - FOR
7607 - FOR
7608 - AGAINST
7609 - AGAINST

--
Bayushi

BUS: Votes for Proposals 7595, 7600

[Henri Bouchard]

I cast my vote for Proposals 7595, 7600:

PRESENT 7595
PRESENT 7600

-Henri

BUS: Votes, votes, votes...

[Jonathan Rouillard]

I vote PRESENT on every proposal I haven't voted on yet, but CAN vote on.

~ Roujo

Re: BUS: Votes, votes, votes...

[Alex Smith]

On Sun, 2013-07-21 at 10:39 -0400, Jonathan Rouillard wrote:
 I vote PRESENT on every proposal I haven't voted on yet, but CAN vote on.

On proposals on which I have not yet voted, I vote AGAINST on every
proposal with an AI no greater than 1.5, and PRESENT on all other
proposals.

-- 
ais523

BUS: Votes

[Fool]

I spend 3 VCs to increase Machiavelli's VVLOP by 2 and Lindar's by 1.


7526 20 O woggle  Yak Cleanup Grammar Fixes

FOR

7527 10 O Murphy  Within measurable distance of its end

FOR

7528 2   50 O omd Voting auctions

AGAINST

7529 20 O omd The Wisconsin Line-Item Veto

AGAINST

I also vote for myself in the general election (NO CHANGE was tempting, 
but vanity wins).


-Dan

BUS: Votes!

[Sean Hunt]

I spend 2 VCs to increase my VVLOP by 1.
I spend 2 VCs to increase my VVLOP by 1.
I spend 2 VCs to increase my VVLOP by 1.
I spend 2 VCs to increase my VVLOP by 1.
I spend 2 VCs to increase my VVLOP by 1.
I spend 2 VCs to increase my VVLOP by 1.

(It's not clear how many, exactly, succeed, but it's enough to cause VVLOP
to roll over and destroy all VCs).

-scshunt

BUS: Votes

[Sean Hunt]

I vote ENDORSE G. in all Agoran Decisions currently in their voting periods
(yes, even the non-proposal ones).

-scshunt

BUS: Votes

[Aaron Goldfein]

FOR all proposals in their voting period.

BUS: votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote AGAINST all decisions to adopt proposals currently
in their voting period.  -G.

BUS: votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I spend 6 VCs to increase my VVLOP by 3.

I vote:

 7453 2 0 O scshunt   Criminal Accountability
1xAGAINST, 1000xFOR

 7454 2 0 O WalkerContract law
1000xAGAINST (wholly insufficient in context)

 7455 3 0 O omd   We don't need judicial declarations
1xAGAINST, 1000xFOR

 7456 3 0 O omd   We don't need induction
1000xAGAINST (this propagation of mechanisms is very useful).

 7457 230 O Walkerhow interesting
1xAGAINST, 1000xFOR

 7458 230 O Walkerabolish officer VCs
1xAGAINST, 1000xFOR

 7459 230 O WalkerVCs tracked by the Assessor
1xAGAINST, 1000xFOR

 7460 2 0 O omd   Abolish the PreCrime Department
1xAGAINST, 1000xFOR

 7461 320 O WalkerDistribution Changes
1xAGAINST, 1000x(Endorse Promotor)

 7462 3 0 O WalkerDemocracy for Tibetan Animals
1xAGAINST, 1000xFOR.  (In case it's unclear, I'm voting for the
disinterested version here!)

 7463 110 O WalkerExplosive Gameplay
1000xAGAINST (trivial bug: can always be transferred to the LFD).

 7464 2.0   0 D ais523, etc.  Capital Punishment for Jaywalking
1000xAGAINST (I prefer precedent or a general overhaul, not piecemeal
fixes).

 7465 240 O Walker(untitled)
1000xAGAINST (this might work.  But I think we should get used to
Yaks for a little while first before adding another big layer.  Try
again in a month!)

 7466 1.7  40 O scshunt   Victim's Rights
1000xAGAINST (bigger overhaul, pls!)

 7467 370 O scshunt   New Precedents
1xAGAINST, 1000x(Endorse Murphy)

 7468 240 O scshunt   Fix Bug
1000xAGAINST (I like this bug until it's fixed to pro-rate officer
work).

 7469 3 0 O scshunt   Proposal editing
1000xAGAINST (this just adds a mess.  If you want to get your
proposal right without spending on it, proto it).

 7470 3 0 O D woggle  Finish de-ASAP'ing
1xAGAINST, 1000xFOR

-G.

BUS: Votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I cast one vote AGAINST, and the remainder of my votes FOR,
every decision to adopt a proposal currently in its voting
period.  -G.

BUS: Votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote:
 7364  1.0  Ordinary  G.   Ribbon Evolution
FOR

 7365  1.0  Ordinary  RoujoMarket Failure
AGAINST.  The and is quite ambiguous in placement and can
mean two things.

 7366  1.0  Ordinary  RoujoCascading Market Failure
FOR

 7367  3.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Series Reboot
AGAINST.  It's broken because the First Game of Agora has *already*
come to an end (see CFJ annotations for R104).

 7368  3.0  Ordinary  Wes
FOR

 7369  1.0  Ordinary  BuckyBot Shifting Blame
FOR

 7370  3.0  Ordinary  omd  Prevent identification of something 
   or other
PRESENT

 7371  3.0  Ordinary  omd  Fix onerous ratification requirement
PRESENT

 7372  1.0  Ordinary  G.   Monthly Dispatches
FOR

 7373  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Justice!
AGAINST.  I dislike mandated character; if you want to do this,
just start doing it.

 7374  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Recycling
AGAINST.  I greatly dislike trading in patent titles

 7375  2.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Ministry
FOR.  Reasonable way to become Speaker.

 7376  2.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Listen to the Speaker
AGAINST.  Too powerful.

 7377  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Sticky Gerontocracy
FOR.

 7378  2.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  People don't use these
FOR

 7379  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Making things a little more ordinary
AGAINST.  (1) I don't like automatic democracy for high AI, and (2) even
if we're scrapping the current chambers, would like to leave it easy to
make more.

 7380  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  This suddenly isn't fun any more
FOR

 7381  1.0  Ordinary  omd  Democratic Unilateralism
AGAINST (not particularly fun)

 7382  1.0  Plutocra  omd  Плутократия!
AGAINST (c'mon, really?)

 7383  2.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Decomposition
PRESENT

 7384  3.0  Ordinary  ais523   Bulletproof potato cleanup
AGAINST (with this many proposals, don't want to nuke everything).

 7385  3.0  Ordinary  scshunt  New Beginnings
AGAINST.  Not too bad, but in the current scheme it should have
more comments and adjustments.  Suggest proto-ing this again.

 7386  2.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Eraser
FOR.  Sorry Bayes, the small positive you contribute isn't worth the
large negatives brought by the rest of the golems.

 7387  2.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Frustrater
FOR (see above).

 7388  2.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Paradoxer
FOR

 7389  1.0  Ordinary  scshunt  How Boring
PRESENT (as mentioned, useful for contracts)

 7390  2.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Grounder
AGAINST (props seem to be picking up)

 7391  1.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Ribbon Cleanup
FOR (this ribbon can be scammed easily, by the way).

 7392  1.5  Ordinary  scshunt  His Story
PRESENT (I haven't tracked the deal-making; if this is part of the
trade for scshunt, let me know and I'm happy to support it).

 7393  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Transparent kludge
AGAINST (by recent CFJ, past week is agoran week, so this 
doesn't fix it).

 7394  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Transparent non-kludge
FOR (in addition to fixing the scam, it also allows the Herald to
welcome new players with a Transparent Ribbon again.  I like that).

 7395  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Seventy-Three Ninety-Five
FOR (takes it out of the realm of truth/falsity; that's good).

-G.

BUS: Votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote FOR 7351-7353. -G.

Re: BUS: votes

[Jonathan Rouillard]

 7340  2.0  Ordinary  G.   The Steward Sweeps
FOR
 7341  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Oh, for the love of
FOR
 7342  2.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Vvloppiness
FOR
 7343  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Shampoo  conditioner
PRESENT

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:


 7340  2.0  Ordinary  G.   The Steward Sweeps
 FOR
 7341  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Oh, for the love of
 FOR
 7342  2.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Vvloppiness
 PRESENT
 7343  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Shampoo  conditioner
 AGAINST.  I think there's a better way to word this than mandating
 common sense, perhaps simply defining PERPETUAL as one that isn't
 destroyed (because the default is always destroyed, actual
 conditionals are covered already, so the only thing left is to
 define Perpetual promises).

BUS: votes

[Kerim Aydin]

 7340  2.0  Ordinary  G.   The Steward Sweeps
FOR
 7341  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Oh, for the love of
FOR
 7342  2.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Vvloppiness
PRESENT
 7343  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Shampoo  conditioner
AGAINST.  I think there's a better way to word this than mandating
common sense, perhaps simply defining PERPETUAL as one that isn't
destroyed (because the default is always destroyed, actual 
conditionals are covered already, so the only thing left is to 
define Perpetual promises).

BUS: votes

[Kerim Aydin]

[I think I'm just outside the voting period unless there's been
apathy.  Nonetheless].

I vote:

 7251 1   Tanner L. Swett  Reduction
 7252 3   441344   DEFENSE FIX
 7253 3   441344   DEFENSE FIX Mk II
 7254 3   441344, etc. DEFENSE FIX Mk III
 7255 2   441344   ANTI-SIEGE Mk II
 7256 1   441344   Basic Foreign Relations
 7257 2   441344   Personhood and Playerhood of Nomics
 7258 1   441344   Ambassadors Extraordinary And
 ..Plenipotentiary
AGAINST all the above

 7259 3   Murphy   Kick out the Jams, er, Platonists
FOR
 7260 2   Murphy, etc. Golem radar
AGAINST
 7261 1   scshunt  Art
AGAINST
 7262 3   omd  Fix
FOR
 7263 2   omd  No Democracy
FOR
 7264 3   omd  Apathia
FOR

-G.

BUS: votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote:
  6895 O 1 2.0 scshunt Not Enough Time Mowing Lawns
AGAINST
  6896 O 1 1.0 scshunt Lose By Even Less Respect
AGAINST
  6897 O 2 1.7 scshunt More Granulation
FOR
  6898 O 0 1.0 scshunt There's No I in Team, But There Is A Me
FOR
  6899 O 0 1.0 scshunt need more
FOR
  6900 O 1 2.0 Yally   Nobody Wants to Do It!
FOR
  6901 O 1 1.0 omd muk
FOR
  6902 O None 1.0 omd I say
FOR
  6903 O 1 2.0 scshunt Raising Standards
FOR
  6904 O 1 1.0 omd Acka!
AGAINST (needs some cleaning:  title != patent title; MMI)
  6905 O 0 2.0 G.  Whoever wants to
AGAINST
  6906 O 0 1.7 G.  Any Case
AGAINST
  6907 O 0 1.0 G.  ID ego ID
AGAINST

-G.

BUS: votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote:

 6834 1 3.0 G.  voter defaults
FOR
 6835 1 1.0 KebaProps should not lead to a win
AGAINST
 6836 1 3.0 G.  Reward Urgency
FOR
 6837 0 1.0 KebaLeet fix
AGAINST
 6838 1 1.7 Kebainfinitive wins?
AGAINST
 6839 1 2.0 G.  Slow Demarcation
FOR
 6840 1 2.0 G.  Coup Bug Fix
FOR
 6841 1 3.0 Murphy  Clarify voting limits
AGAINST (still doesn't clarify last week's issue).
   2.0  1  omd  2010-09-07  6842  Capa
AGAINST
   1.0  1  Keba 2010-09-07  6843  White Renaissance
AGAINST
   2.0  1  Keba 2010-09-07  6844  a-rest-ing
AGAINST
   2.0  0  Tanner S 2010-09-08  6845  Do it instead instead instead
FOR
   2.0  1  Keba 2010-09-12  6846  Those are our fans
AGAINST.

-G.

BUS: Votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote AGAINST all decisions to adopt proposals currently in their voting 
periods.

-G.

Re: BUS: Votes

[comexk]

I vote FOR all decisions to adopt proposals currently in their voting periods.
 

Re: BUS: Votes

[Kerim Aydin]

On Wed, 1 Sep 2010, com...@gmail.com wrote:
 I vote FOR all decisions to adopt proposals currently in their voting periods.

I retract my previous votes on all decisions with ongoing voting periods, and
vote 'denounce omd' on each and every agoran decision currently in its voting
period.  -G.

BUS: Votes

[Sean Hunt]

For each proposal current in its voting period, I vote DENOUNCE omd if 
its title begins with a consonant including y, DENOUNCE G. otherwise.


-coppro

Re: BUS: Votes

[omd]

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Sep 2010, com...@gmail.com wrote:
 I vote FOR all decisions to adopt proposals currently in their voting 
 periods.

 I retract my previous votes on all decisions with ongoing voting periods, and
 vote 'denounce omd' on each and every agoran decision currently in its voting
 period.  -G.

I retract my previous votes on all decisions with ongoing voting
periods, and vote 'endorse G.' on each and every agoran decision
currently in its voting period.

;p

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

These have not yet met quorum.

6713 AGAINST (needs clarification to avoid stomping on any
   legitimate multiple-wins-per-day that may have happened)
6714 FOR
6715 FOR

Re: BUS: Votes

[comex]

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
 To remove ambiguity, I vote FOR each Agoran Decision for which I have not
 cast a vote.

Me too.

BUS: Votes

[Sean Hunt]

To remove ambiguity, I vote FOR each Agoran Decision for which I have 
not cast a vote.


-coppro

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

6605 FOR
6606 AGAINST

BUS: Votes

[Sean Hunt]

I vote myself for IADoP and Insulator.

-coppro

BUS: Votes

[ais523]

I vote AGAINST each interested proposal, as many times as I can whilst
having all the votes still valid.

I vote FOR each disinterested proposal, as many times as I can whilst
having all the votes still valid.

-- 
ais523

BUS: votes

[Geoffrey Spear]

 6441 D 0 3.0 Murphy              Move the synonym
FOR

 6442 D 1 3.0 Yally               Promotor CAN Remove Old Proposals
PRESENT

 6443 O 1 1.5 Murphy              Fix judicial demotion
FOR * 5

 6444 D 0 2.0 BobTHJ              Clarify Termination
ENDORSE AIS523

 6445 O 0 1.0 coppro              Excess Cleanup
PRESENT

 6446 O 0 1.0 coppro              Province Cleanup
AGAINST * 5

 6447 O 0 1.0 coppro              Terrible
AGAINST * 5

 6448 D 1 3.0 BobTHJ              Hand Limit Remodel v3
ENDORSE MURPHY

 6449 D 1 2.0 BobTHJ              Banks v2
AGAINST

 6450 D 1 3.0 C-walkerWithout Objection Pool Removal
PRESENT

 6451 O 1 1.0 C-walkerLivenomic Recognition
FOR * 5

 6452 D 0 3.0 Murphy  Move the synonym
AGAINST; probably this proposal doesn't exist as it's a duplicate.  I
transfer a prop from myself to Murphy for purporting to distribute it
again.

 6453 O 1 1.0 C-walkerProposal II Changes v2
ENDORSE MURPHY

BUS: votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote FOR 6407.
I vote FOR 6408.
I vote FOR 6409.
I retract my vote on 6406.

-G.

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

6302 - FOR
6303 - FOR
6304 - FOR
6305 - AGAINST
6306 - FOR, but needs some punctuation cleaning
6307 - FOR
6308 - FOR
6309 - 2 x AGAINST
6310 - AGAINST
6311 - FOR
6312 - FOR
6313 - FOR
6314 - 2 x AGAINST, out of sequence
6315 - FOR
6316 - 2 x FOR
6317 - FOR
6318 - 2 x FOR
6319 - FOR
6320 - FOR
6321 - FOR
6322 - 2 x FOR
6323 - 1 x FOR, 1 x AGAINST

-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote FOR Proposal 6165 and AGAINST proposal 6166 (not because of lack of
trust of comex-as-rulekeepor, but because I never thought ruleset ratification 
was a good idea to begin with...ratify everything else but let the rules be 
corrected when need be).  -Goethe

Re: BUS: Votes

[Alex Smith]

On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:23 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
 I vote FOR Proposal 6165 and AGAINST proposal 6166 (not because of lack of
 trust of comex-as-rulekeepor, but because I never thought ruleset 
 ratification 
 was a good idea to begin with...ratify everything else but let the rules be 
 corrected when need be).  -Goethe

I vote AGAINST proposal 6166. There's a serious error in the Ruleset,
which shouldn't be ratified under any circumstances.

comex has confessed to me why e's been trying so hard to get a
dictatorship recently; I've been helping him for the same reason
(although e didn't tell me in advance of the possibly-illegal things e's
been doing recently). The bug is in rule 754, which doesn't define
announcement anywhere in the published versions of the FLR or SLR for
months. comex thought that it had been accidentally repealed by
proposal, which would allow real-life announcements (such as that at
BlogNomic) to count in an Agoran-legal sense, just as public messages
do. That's such a major bug that we were trying to fix it via
dictatorship (a proposal would be too slow as it would be exploited in
the meantime, should we maybe have hurried proposals?).

Anyway, it turns that the bug got into the ruleset due to Rulekeepor
error rather than a buggy proposal, so it doesn't exist after all, as
long as the ruleset isn't ratified, and makes our frantic
dictatorship-scamming attempts look rather stupid in retrospect. On the
other hand, I'm much happier it turned out this way, rather than with
the death of Agora due to a badly broken rule.

comex asked me to tell everyone, rather than telling everyone emself,
because e was too embarassed. (On the other hand, this is quite telling
on the people who looked through the ruleset-to-be-ratified and found no
scams; there were no deliberate scams, but was a bad mistake.)

Also, yes there have been too many dictatorship scams recently; 6167 is
now going to fail badly (we were going to force it through via the
nonesxistent bug, and use it to patch the bug itself, before anyone else
spotted it); but probably it's time to calm down and get on with
gameplay now.

-- 
ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

[comex]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
 Nonsense.

Yes, I thought it might be judged that way for the good of the game--
though the bug would be disastrous if judged to work.  I transfer a
prop from myself to coppro, by the way, for being the one to notice
this in the first place.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure that I can unilaterally avoid this sort of
error in the future.  If someone else can make that guarantee, let
them be Rulekeepor; otherwise, Goethe, there is always the chance of
an accidental, hard-to-catch difference between the ratified voting
results and the published ruleset.  Proposals that explicitly mention
rule text might fail because the text is different; proposals that
number paragraphs might delete important material.  Of course, I'll
always try my utmost to ensure the correctness of the ruleset, but I'm
not convinced that ratification is such a bad idea.  Luckily,
ratifying a past ruleset mass-patches the game so that it was correct,
even if we've been making invalid moves for a year, but even with the
without-objection mechanism there have been cases (insufficiently
powered dependent actions rule!) where ratification might subtly break
and the proposal system is even more vulnerable.

Or let's all post proposals as diffs.

BUS: Votes

[Sean Hunt]

6140: FOR

6141: FOR

6142: FOR

6143: FOR

6144: FOR

6145: SELL(10VP - FOR)

6146: FOR

6147: FOR

6148: FOR

6149: ABSTAIN

6150: SELL(5VP)

6151: FOR

BUS: Votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote as follows:
6073 D 1 3.0 Murphy  Regulate self-contradiction
FOR
6074 D 0 3.0 Murphy  Patch 2282a
FOR
6075 D 0 3.0 Murphy  Patch 2321a
FOR
6076 D 1 3.0 woggle  Isn't This What Patent Titles Are For?
AGAINST
6077 D 1 2.0 Murphy  That trick only works once
FOR
6078 D 1 2.0 Wooble  Insulator committee
FOR
6079 D 1 2.0 Murphy  Refactor NoV tracking
FOR
6080 D 1 2.0 Murphy  Cacophony
Present (whatever)
6081 D 1 2.0 Murphy  Five tons of flax
FOR
6082 D 1 2.0 Murphy  Bankruptcy
FOR
6083 D 1 2.0 ais523  FAQ
AGAINST
6084 O 1 1.0 Goethe  Time's up!
2xFOR
6085 D 1 3.0 comex   Proposal
AGAINST

-Goethe

BUS: Votes

[comex]

On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 16:36 +, Alex Smith wrote:
 I agree to the following private contract, named 6069:
 {{{
 This is a private contract, which only comex and ais523 can join.

 Both ais523 and comex CAN terminate this contract by announcement,
 and/or make it public by publishing its text and membership.

 Votons are a currency, tracked by ais523. Any player can create a Voton
 in eir own possession with 2 Support; this is known as making the
 contract Democratic, or simply as making 6069 Democratic.

 comex CAN act on ais523's behalf to cause em to vote on, and/or retract
 votes on, the Agoran Decision on whether to adopt the proposal with ID
 number 6069.

 comex CAN act on ais523's behalf to cause em to spend up to 4 C# notes,
 and SHALL NOT do so except to boost eir on voting limit on the proposal
 with ID number 6069, or the Agoran Decision concerning whether to adopt
 it.
 }}}
I agree. I have just published the text of the contract named 6069;
its membership is
{ais523, comex}. I make the contract named 6069 a public contract.

I spend a G# note to increase the AFO's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.
I spend a G# note to increase the AFO's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.
I spend a G# note to increase the AFO's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.
I spend a G# note to increase the AFO's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.
I spend a G# note to increase the AFO's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.
I spend a G# note to increase the AFO's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.
I spend a G note to increase the AFO's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.


The AFO spends an E note to increase ais523's voting limit on proposal
6069 by 1.
The AFO spends an E note to increase ais523's voting limit on proposal
6069 by 1.
The AFO spends an E note to increase ais523's voting limit on proposal
6069 by 1.

The AFO spends an E note to increase comex's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.
The AFO spends an E note to increase comex's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.
The AFO spends an E note to increase comex's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.
The AFO spends an E note to increase comex's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.

I act on behalf of ais523 to cause em to spend a C# note to increase
comex's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.
I act on behalf of ais523 to cause em to spend a C# note to increase
comex's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.
I act on behalf of ais523 to cause em to spend a C# note to increase
comex's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.
I act on behalf of ais523 to cause em to spend a C# note to increase
comex's voting limit on proposal 6069 by 1.

In case that didn't work:

I spend a G# note to increase the AFO's voting limit on the decision
of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
I spend a G# note to increase the AFO's voting limit on the decision
of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
I spend a G# note to increase the AFO's voting limit on the decision
of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
I spend a G# note to increase the AFO's voting limit on the decision
of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
I spend a G# note to increase the AFO's voting limit on the decision
of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
I spend a G# note to increase the AFO's voting limit on the decision
of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
I spend a G note to increase the AFO's voting limit on the decision of
whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.

The AFO spends an E note to increase ais523's voting limit on the
decision of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
The AFO spends an E note to increase ais523's voting limit on the
decision of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
The AFO spends an E note to increase ais523's voting limit on the
decision of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.

The AFO spends an E note to increase comex's voting limit on the
decision of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
The AFO spends an E note to increase comex's voting limit on the
decision of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
The AFO spends an E note to increase comex's voting limit on the
decision of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
The AFO spends an E note to increase comex's voting limit on the
decision of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.

I act on behalf of ais523 to cause em to spend a C# note to increase
comex's voting limit on the decision of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
I act on behalf of ais523 to cause em to spend a C# note to increase
comex's voting limit on the decision of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
I act on behalf of ais523 to cause em to spend a C# note to increase
comex's voting limit on the decision of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.
I act on behalf of ais523 to cause em to spend a C# note to increase
comex's voting limit on the decision of whether to adopt proposal 6069 by 1.

I act on behalf of ais523 to cause em to vote FOR on the Agoran
Decision of whether to adopt proposal 6069, eight times.
The AFO retracts all its votes on the Agoran Decision of whether to
adopt proposal 

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

6018 O 1 1.0 comex   The AWJ's enough
3 x FOR
6019 O 1 1.0 Murphy  Undo the scam already
3 x ENDORSE MURPHY
6020 D 1 2.0 Murphy  Complex scoring
FOR
6021 D 1 3.0 Murphy  Definition of definitions
FOR
6022 D 1 3.0 Murphy  Cleanup of Power=3 definitions
FOR
6023 D 1 2.0 Murphy  Cleanup of Power=2 definitions
FOR
6024 D 1 2.0 Murphy  Cleanup of judicial definitions
FOR
6025 D 1 2.0 Murphy  Cleanup of contract definitions
FOR
6026 O 1 1.0 Murphy  Cleanup of Power=1 definitions
3 x FOR
6027 D 1 2.0 Elysion none
FOR
6028 D 1 3.0 Murphy  Allow conversion of sentences
FOR
6029 D 1 2.0 Wooble  note adjustments
ENDORSE WOOBLE
6030 O 0 1.0 Murphy  Undo the rest of 5956
3 x FOR
6031 O 0 1.0 Murphy  Undo the aftermath of 5956
3 x FOR
6032 D 1 2.0 Wooble  Rest Adjustments
ENDORSE WOOBLE

-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

6014 O 1 1.7 Goethe  Re-streamline Appeals
3 x FOR
6015 D 1 2.0 WarrigalMake notes not annoying
FOR
6016 D 1 3.0 OscarMeyr   Order of the Hero
FOR
6017 D 1 3.0 Elysion Resurrect Rule 2140
IF the rule was not previously (re)created, FOR; ELSE AGAINST

-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

6010 D 2 2.0 ais523  Rests
--- FOR
6011 D 0 3.0 Bayes   Repeal 'Definition Definitions'
--- AGAINST
6012 D 0 3.0 Bayes   Repeal 'Vote Protection and Cutoff  
for Challenges'

--- AGAINST
6013 D 0 3.0 Bayes   Repeal 'Dependent Actions'
--- AGAINST

-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Alex Smith]

I vote as follows on the Agoran Decisions on whether to adopt proposals
below, where each decision is identified by the ID number of the related
proposal:

6014 FOR
6015 AGAINST
6016 PRESENT
6017 AGAINST (for now, let's sort out what the rules are first)

-- 
ais523

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

6004 D 1 2.0 woggle  Pragmatize Ribbons
6005 D 1 2.0 Murphy  Contract precedence
6006 D 1 2.0 Murphy  Clarify equity timing
6007 O 1 1.5 SgeoThanks Murphy
6008 D 1 2.0 Perlnomic PartnershipGive partnerships a chance
6009 O 1 1.0 SgeoInactives lose MwP


I vote as follows:
6004: FOR
6005: FOR
6006: FOR
6007: already voted
6008: AGAINST
6009: 3 x FOR

-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes on 5972-5981

[Benjamin Schultz]

5972 D 1 2.0 rootContract terminology clean-up
FOR

5973 D 1 2.0 woggle  Highly Limited Partnerships
FOR

5974 D 0 2.0 Murphy  I can has grammar
FOR

5975 D 1 3.0 Murphy  This sounds like a job for the  
Rulekeepor

FOR

5976 O 0 1.5 Murphy  My logic is undeniable
8 x FOR.  Enjoy your shinys!

5977 D 1 2.0 Elysion Shoot Them All and Sort it Out Later
AGAINST.

5978 D 1 2.0 Elysion Maximum Voting Limits
FOR

5979 D 1 2.0 Murphy  Clarify quorum alterations
FOR

5980 D 1 2.0 Elysion Reign in the Aristocracy
AGAINST

5981 D 1 2.0 Elysion Cantus Cygneus Only If You Mean It v1.1
FOR

-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

5942 O 0 1.0 woggle  Transporter Accident Repair
8 x FOR
5943 D 1 2.0 woggle  Secure Contestmasters
FOR
5944 D 1 2.0 Taral   Senator fix
FOR
5945 D 1 2.0 rootEarly termination
FOR
5946 D 1 3.0 Murphy  Faster repair of botched AIs
AGAINST
5947 D 1 3.0 ais523  Balance of Power
AGAINST
5948 D 0 3.0 Murphy  Fix elections, this time for real
FOR

-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes on 5946-5947

[Alexander Smith]

Did I ever vote on 5946-5947?

I vote AGAINST on the Agoran Decision on whether to
adopt proposal 5946, and FOR the Agoran Decision on
whether to adopt proposal 5947. These will be invalid
if I've already voted on those decisions.
-- 
ais523

BUS: Votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote:

 5823 D 1 2.0 rootSecure contract adjustments
AGAINST.  It breaks Equity.

 5824 O 1 1.0 rootClean-up on Aisle 2192
2xFOR

 5825 D 1 3.0 Murphy  Udder chaos
FOR

 5826 O 1 1.7 Murphy  Minimum disclosure for equity cases
2xAGAINST.  Not needed due to requirement to clearly specify a contract
to initiate a case.

 5827 D 1 2.0 Wooble  Retribution
FOR

 5828 D 2 2.0 Wooble  More contests
AGAINST

 5829 D 1 2.0 ehird   It's convenient
AGAINST.

 5830 D 1 3.0 Murphy  Spread democracy
AGAINST.

 5831 D 1 2.0 Murphy  Fix elections
FOR.

 5832 D 1 2.0 comex   Allow multiple methods
AGAINST.

-Goethe

Re: BUS: Votes

[comex]

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 5823 D 1 2.0 rootSecure contract adjustments
 AGAINST.  It breaks Equity.
In that case I retract my votes and vote FOR.

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

I vote:

5740: 3 x FOR
5741: FOR
5742: 3 x FOR
5743: FOR
5744: AGAINST
5745: PRESENT
5746: 3 x FOR
5747: 3 x AGAINST
5748: AGAINST
5749: 3 x AGAINST
5750: 3 x AGAINST
5751: 3 x AGAINST
5752: 1 x FOR, 1 x AGAINST
5753: AGAINST
5754: FOR (overkill of Agoran definitions)
5755: AGAINST
5756: 1 x FOR, 1 x AGAINST
5757: AGAINST
5758: AGAINST
5759: FOR
5760: FOR
5761: AGAINST
5762: 3 x AGAINST
5763: 3 x AGAINST
5764: 3 x FOR

-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

5700: FOR
5701: FOR
5702: FOR
5703: FOR
5704: FOR
5705: FOR (but how does this differ from 5700?)
5706: AGAINST, it's OUR monster
5707: 3 x AGAINST
5708: 3 x AGAINST, move to split the question
5709: FOR
5710: FOR
5711: 3 x FOR
5712: FOR
5713: 3 x AGAINST
5714: FOR
5715: 3 x FOR
5716: FOR
5717: FOR
5718: 3 x FOR
5719: 3 x FOR
5720: FOR
5721: AGAINST (I'm not sure what effect that proposal would have if  
adopted... better that we don't)

5722: FOR
5723: FOR
5724: FOR
5725: FOR
5726: FOR

-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

I've lost track of which proposal is listed as Ordinary but is  
actually Democratic.  So I'm not going to split my votes this time;  
the excess voting will be truncated as overvotes.


5651: 7 x AGAINST
5652: AGAINST
5653: 7 x AGAINST
5654: AGAINST (the Monster has already begun!)
5655: AGAINST
5656: 7 x FOR
5657: 7 x FOR
5658: FOR
5659: FOR
5660: 7 x FOR
5661: AGAINST.  I see no gain.
5662: PRESENT
5663: 7 x FOR
5664: FOR
5665: 7 x FOR
5666: 7 x AGAINST
5667: 7 x FOR

-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

5636: FOR
5637: 7 x AGAINST, I'd prefer a simplification of the system.
5638: 7 x FOR
5639: FOR
5640: 7 x FOR

5643: 7 x AGAINST

5645: 7 x FOR
5646: FOR
5647: 7 x FOR
5648: AGAINST

On 5641, 5642, and 5644, I denounce tusho.
-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

5538: FOR
5539: 7 x FOR
5540: FOR (but since our Monster is not biological, this seems to be  
currently a no-op)

5541: 3xFOR, 3 x AGAINST
5542: 3xFOR, 3 x AGAINST
5543: FOR
5544: AGAINST
: 7 x AGAINST (BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO  
BUFFALO makes sense, but this proposal does not.)


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Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

I vote as follows:

5521: FOR
5522: 7 x AGAINST
5523: 7 x FOR
5524: 7 x FOR
5525: FOR
5526: 7 x FOR
5527: 3 x FOR, 3 x AGAINST
5528: AGAINST
5529: AGAINST
5530: 7 X FOR
5531: FOR

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Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

5514: FOR
5515: 7 x AGAINST
5516: 7 x AGAINST
5517: 7 x FOR

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Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes, 5508-13

[Benjamin Schultz]

5508: 7 x FOR
5509: FOR
5510: FOR
5511: 3 x FOR, 3 x AGAINST
5512: AGAINST, needs some tightening up of language.
5513: AGAINST, unneeded (unless someone rewrote R101 while I wasn't  
watching)


-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes on 5504-07

[Benjamin Schultz]

5504: FOR
5505: 3 x FOR, 3 x AGAINST
5506: 7 x FOR
5507: 7 x FOR

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Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes 5500-03

[Benjamin Schultz]

5500: 7 x FOR
5501: FOR
5502: 7 x FOR
5503: FOR

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Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

5476 FOR
5477 FOR x 13

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

5469 AGAINST x 13
5470 FOR x 13
5471 FOR x 13
5472 FOR x 13
5473 AGAINST x 13
5474 FOR x 13
5475 FOR x 13

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

5454 FOR x 13
5456 FOR
5457 FOR x 13

5458 FOR x 13

5459 FOR

BUS: Votes

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote:

 5446  O2  1Pavitra What Are We?
10x AGAINST
 5447  D1  2Pavitra Provincial Voice in Government (Lesser)
AGAINST
 5448  D1  3Pavitra Provincial Voice in Government (Greater)
AGAINST
 5449  D0  2avpxG
FOR
 5450  D1  3Murphy  Optional is optional
FOR

-Goethe

BUS: Votes

[Benjamin Schultz]

5446: PRESENT
5447: PRESENT
5448: PRESENT
5449: 7 x AGAINST
5450: FOR

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Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes, 5418-5426

[Benjamin Schultz]

5418: FOR
5419: AGAINST (If you can scam that kind of power, good luck to you)
5420: 7 x FOR
5421: ABSTAIN
5422: AGAINST (im in ur quantum box... maybe)
5423: 3 x FOR, 3 x AGAINST (supposing again)
5424: FOR
5425: FOR
5426: FOR

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Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Josiah Worcester]

DISCLAIMER: My VVLOP may be 5 rather than 10.
 NUM   FL  AI   SUBMITTER   TITLE
 5390  O1  1Murphy  Foreign communications
FORx10
 5391  D0  2Murphy  Refactor foreign fora
FOR
 5392  O1  1Murphy  Expanded foreign relations
FORx10
 5393  D1  2Murphy  Foreign trade
AGAINST. If synaesthesia passes, then this will be useless.
 5394  D1  3Murphy  Structured victory
FOR
 5395  O1  1.5  Murphy  Pledges
FORx10
 5396  O1  1Murphy  Frankenstein's Monster
FORx10
 5397  O1  1Murphy  Allow revocation of points
FORx10
 5398  D1  2pikhq   Bribery
FOR
 5399  D1  4comex   Awful Proposals
AGAINST
 5400  O0  1woggle  Public Partnerships III
FORx10
 5401  O1  1LeviRepeal Wagers
FORx10
 5402  D1  2pikhq   none
FOR
 5403  O1  1.5  Murphy  Public contract repair
FORx10
 5404  D2  2Murphy  Synaesthesia v1.3
FOR

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

Disclaimers:
  My VLOP may be 7 instead of 12.
  The AFO's VLOP may be 6 instead of 10.

5405 AGAINST x 12 (would remove destroy)
5406 AGAINST (unclear how without objection nested within with
   2 support would work)
5407 FOR
5408 FOR

The AFO votes as follows:

5405 AGAINST x 10

Re: BUS: Votes

[Ian Kelly]

On Jan 12, 2008 9:53 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 5405 AGAINST x 12 (would remove destroy)

Eek, good catch!

I retract all my votes on proposal 5405 and vote AGAINST x 12 on it.

-root

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

5374 AGAINST

5375 FOR x 8
5376 AGAINST
5377 AGAINST
5378 FOR
5379 FOR
5380 FOR x 8
5381 FOR
5382 FOR
5383 AGAINST x 8
5384 FOR
5385 FOR
5386 FOR x 8
5387 FOR x 8
5388 FOR
5389 FOR x 8

All AGAINST votes in this message are cast only on the condition that
the proposal in question would meet quorum even if I didn't vote on it.

BUS: Votes on 5358-5373

[Benjamin Schultz]

5358: FOR
5359: FOR
5360: 6xFOR
5361: 6xFOR
5362: 6xAGAINST
5363: FOR
5364: PRESENT
5365: 6xAGAINST
5366: 6xFOR
5367: 6xFOR
5368: 6xAGAINST
5369: 6xAGAINST
5370: FOR
5371: 6xFOR
5372: PRESENT
5373: 6xAGAINST

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Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes on proposals 5358-5372

[Nick Vanderweit]

5358:FOR
5359:AGAINST
5360:FORx4
5361:FORx4
5362:FORx4
5363:FOR
5364:FOR
5365:AGAINSTx4
5366:AGAINSTx4
5367:AGAINSTx4
5368:AGAINSTx4
5369:AGAINSTx4
5370:FOR
5371:FORx4
5372:FORx4

avpx

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

5353 FOR
5354 FOR
5355 FOR x 8
5356 FOR
5357 FOR

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

5320 AGAINST x 4
5321 FOR
5322 FOR
5323 AGAINST x 4
5324 FOR
5325 FOR
5326 AGAINST
5327 FOR x 4
5328 FOR x 2, AGAINST x 1
5329 AGAINST
5330 AGAINST
5331 FOR
5332 FOR
5333 FOR
5334 FOR

The AFO votes as follows:

5320 AGAINST x 5
5327 FOR x 5
5328 AGAINST x 2, FOR x 1

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes on 5303-5319

[Benjamin Schultz]

On Nov 21, 2007, at 10:37 PM, comex wrote:


On Wednesday 21 November 2007, Benjamin Schultz wrote:

I thought someone else brought that up... urgency is not in the
units of days.

   (f) The vote collector of such a decision CANNOT resolve it if
   it was initiated more than fourteen days ago, or less than
   its urgency ago.



Nevertheless, urgency is defined as (depending on the situation)  
four days,

zero days, or 24 hours.  There is no need to respecify the unit.

...Previously I had called it an urgency index, incorrectly because an
index cannot have a unit.



Ah.  Thanks for the clarification.

makes sure this is going to the correct list

I withdraw my vote on 5311.
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Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

5303 FOR
5304 PRESENT (first let's explore the attributes of non-contract
   agreements, then we can decide whether this matters)
5305 AGAINST x 5 (s/dependent/certified)
5306 AGAINST x 5 (false accusations of treason are themselves treason)
5307 FOR x 5 (treason must be punished)
5308 AGAINST x 5 (false accusations etc.)
5309 FOR
5310 AGAINST x 5 (false accusations etc.)
5311 AGAINST (should be A player CAN perform an action urgently on
   behalf of Agora etc.)

The AFO votes as follows:

5305 AGAINST
5306 AGAINST
5307 FOR
5308 AGAINST
5310 AGAINST

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

5296 FOR x 5
5297 FOR
5298 FOR x 5
5299 FOR
5300 FOR x 5
5301 FOR x 5
5302 FOR x 5

The AFO votes as follows:

5296 AGAINST
5298 FOR
5300 FOR
5301 FOR
5302 AGAINST

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

5292 PRESENT
5293 FOR x 5
5294 FOR x 5
5295 AGAINST (the pool should remain part of the report)

The AFO votes as follows:

5292 PRESENT
5293 FOR
5294 FOR

BUS: Votes

[Ed Murphy]

5287 AGAINST (these are privileges, not duties)
5288 FOR
5289 FOR
5290 FOR x 5
5291 AGAINST (I don't see the need)

BUS: Votes 5270-86

[Benjamin Schultz]

5270: 4 x FOR
5271: FOR
5272: FOR
5273: 4 x FOR
5274: 4 x FOR
5275: FOR
5276: FOR
5277: FOR
5278: 4 x FOR
5279: 4 x AGAINST (I like Prop. 5280 better)
5280: 4 x FOR
5281: 4 x AGAINST (I like Prop. 5284 better)
5282: PRESENT (I lost track of how comex scammed Agora)
5283: 4 x FOR
5284: 4 x FOR
5285: 4 x AGAINST
5286: 4 x AGAINST
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Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr