DIS: Re: BUS: End-of-month business

2018-09-01 Thread Ørjan Johansen

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to award the Badge "Badge of Accidental 
Loom Destruction" to myself, Trigon and Corona. I find it an 
extraordinary coincidence that three players have managed to accomplish 
this, completely independently.


Needs more punnery.  What about Accidental Luddite?

Greetings,
Ørjan.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: End-of-month business

2018-09-01 Thread Aris Merchant
What would people think of a requirement for the Herald to respond in a
timely fashion to all formal requests for titles?

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 8:36 AM Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> Hmm... a land badge of some kind would be nice - ok, maybe a badge for
> everyone who lost stuff to facility destruction not just looms - that
> adds a few more people maybe (dunno who just a guess) and makes it a
> more general marker for participating in land?  Something like that.
>
> (Herald is also encouraged to do the one-off types of titles for
> reasonable requests if you want to make it just looms).
>
> It would be interesting to make some gameplay/rules way to reclaim
> lost property but I don't have particular brainwaves - does it cause
> problems for it to just sit there a while?
>
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> > I don't entirely disagree, but only the Herald can award non-Badge
> patent titles.
> >
> > I'd love to hear any alternative suggestions you (or anyone else) might
> have for what to do with the surplus currencies.
> >
> > -twg
> >
> >
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On September 1, 2018 3:14 PM, Kerim Aydin 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I object to the Badges should be for broader participatory events, This
> > > is more appropriate for a one-off patent title.
> > >
> > > I object to the transfer. If e was unaware if the transfers, e was
> unaware
> > > that ever owned those currencies so it's no loss (also I PMed em).
> > >
> > > On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> > >
> > > > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to award the Badge "Badge of
> Accidental Loom Destruction" to myself, Trigon and Corona. I find it an
> extraordinary coincidence that three players have managed to accomplish
> this, completely independently.
> > > > I intend, without objection, to transfer all assets in the
> possession of the Lost and Found Department to Murphy, since I suspect that
> Murphy's failure to pay upkeep for the facilities those assets previously
> belonged to is a result of eir being unaware that the facilities were
> transferred to em, and doesn't really deserve to be punished to the tune of
> - if my calculations are correct - 64 ore, 96 stones, 72 lumber, 72 apples
> and 80 steel.
> > > > -twg
> > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > > > On August 27, 2018 5:01 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I pay the upkeep cost of my orchard at (5, 0): 8 stones.
> > > > > I pay the upkeep cost of my mine at (-1, 2): 8 lumber.
> > > > > I pay the upkeep cost of my refinery at (6, -3): 3 steel.
> > > > > I pay the upkeep cost of my farm at (6, -2): 4 lumber and 4 stones.
> > > > > As Tailor, I award myself a Grey Ribbon.
> > > > > -twg
> >
> >
> >
>


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: End-of-month business

2018-09-01 Thread Kerim Aydin



Hmm... a land badge of some kind would be nice - ok, maybe a badge for
everyone who lost stuff to facility destruction not just looms - that
adds a few more people maybe (dunno who just a guess) and makes it a
more general marker for participating in land?  Something like that.

(Herald is also encouraged to do the one-off types of titles for
reasonable requests if you want to make it just looms).

It would be interesting to make some gameplay/rules way to reclaim
lost property but I don't have particular brainwaves - does it cause
problems for it to just sit there a while?

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> I don't entirely disagree, but only the Herald can award non-Badge patent 
> titles.
> 
> I'd love to hear any alternative suggestions you (or anyone else) might have 
> for what to do with the surplus currencies.
> 
> -twg
> 
> 
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On September 1, 2018 3:14 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I object to the Badges should be for broader participatory events, This
> > is more appropriate for a one-off patent title.
> >
> > I object to the transfer. If e was unaware if the transfers, e was unaware
> > that ever owned those currencies so it's no loss (also I PMed em).
> >
> > On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> >
> > > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to award the Badge "Badge of Accidental 
> > > Loom Destruction" to myself, Trigon and Corona. I find it an 
> > > extraordinary coincidence that three players have managed to accomplish 
> > > this, completely independently.
> > > I intend, without objection, to transfer all assets in the possession of 
> > > the Lost and Found Department to Murphy, since I suspect that Murphy's 
> > > failure to pay upkeep for the facilities those assets previously belonged 
> > > to is a result of eir being unaware that the facilities were transferred 
> > > to em, and doesn't really deserve to be punished to the tune of - if my 
> > > calculations are correct - 64 ore, 96 stones, 72 lumber, 72 apples and 80 
> > > steel.
> > > -twg
> > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > > On August 27, 2018 5:01 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote:
> > >
> > > > I pay the upkeep cost of my orchard at (5, 0): 8 stones.
> > > > I pay the upkeep cost of my mine at (-1, 2): 8 lumber.
> > > > I pay the upkeep cost of my refinery at (6, -3): 3 steel.
> > > > I pay the upkeep cost of my farm at (6, -2): 4 lumber and 4 stones.
> > > > As Tailor, I award myself a Grey Ribbon.
> > > > -twg
> 
> 
>


DIS: Re: BUS: End-of-month business

2018-09-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I don't entirely disagree, but only the Herald can award non-Badge patent 
titles.

I'd love to hear any alternative suggestions you (or anyone else) might have 
for what to do with the surplus currencies.

-twg


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On September 1, 2018 3:14 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> I object to the Badges should be for broader participatory events, This
> is more appropriate for a one-off patent title.
>
> I object to the transfer. If e was unaware if the transfers, e was unaware
> that ever owned those currencies so it's no loss (also I PMed em).
>
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
>
> > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to award the Badge "Badge of Accidental Loom 
> > Destruction" to myself, Trigon and Corona. I find it an extraordinary 
> > coincidence that three players have managed to accomplish this, completely 
> > independently.
> > I intend, without objection, to transfer all assets in the possession of 
> > the Lost and Found Department to Murphy, since I suspect that Murphy's 
> > failure to pay upkeep for the facilities those assets previously belonged 
> > to is a result of eir being unaware that the facilities were transferred to 
> > em, and doesn't really deserve to be punished to the tune of - if my 
> > calculations are correct - 64 ore, 96 stones, 72 lumber, 72 apples and 80 
> > steel.
> > -twg
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On August 27, 2018 5:01 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote:
> >
> > > I pay the upkeep cost of my orchard at (5, 0): 8 stones.
> > > I pay the upkeep cost of my mine at (-1, 2): 8 lumber.
> > > I pay the upkeep cost of my refinery at (6, -3): 3 steel.
> > > I pay the upkeep cost of my farm at (6, -2): 4 lumber and 4 stones.
> > > As Tailor, I award myself a Grey Ribbon.
> > > -twg




DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder to Vote on Proposal 8089

2018-09-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Reminder: We still need one more vote on this before tomorrow morning, since G. 
correctly pointed out that D. Margaux's vote doesn't count.

Trigon, please remember we've established that you have a zombie (Quazie).

-twg


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On August 26, 2018 3:04 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey  wrote:

> This time, Proposal
> 8089 has three votes;
> we need seven, please.
>
> Slackers:
> ATMunn, Aris, Corona, CuddleBeam, D. Margaux, Murphy, omd, P.S.S., Trigon,
> V.J. Rada, Gaelan, nichdel, o, Ouri, pokes, Quazie, Telnaior and 天火狐.
>
> Above reminder,
> as rule 2168 says,
> should humiliate.
>
> New voting deadline:
> the second of September,
> 6:19 AM.
>
> -twg




DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly report: Old censer found down back of sofa, incense reintroduced to economy

2018-09-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Unfortunately, you only possess 4 steel. If I have my order of operations 
correct, your loom is destroyed due to lack of upkeep paid, and you now have 1 
steel remaining.

-twg


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On August 31, 2018 9:00 PM, Corona  wrote:

> (Sorry for neglecting my duties. Agora's starting to bore me, I guess)
> I pay upkeep as follows, if my facilities' upkeep costs haven't changed
> since the last time I paid upkeep:
>
> 3 steel for refinery at (0,2)
> 2 lumber for mine at (2,2)
> 2 stones for orchard at (2,1)
> 2 lumber for mine at (2,-1)
> 2 stones for orchard at (2,-2)
> 3 steel for loom at (3,1)
> 1 lumber and 1 stone for farm at (1, -2)
> 2 lumber for orchard at (-2,0)
> 2 stones for mine at (-3,0)
> 4 stones for orchard at (-4,0)
> 4 stones for orchard at (-5,0)
>
> ~Corona
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 6:59 PM Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote:
>
> > UNREFINABLE CURRENCIES
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Rules summary:
> >
> > -   Coins are obtained every month at Payday and used to buy zombies and
> > Land Units at auctions.
> >
> > -   Stones are obtained from Mines and used to build, upgrade and maintain
> > most Production Facilities.
> >
> > -   Apples are obtained from Orchards and used to move around the map and
> > change the colour of Land Units.
> >
> > -   Corn is obtained from Farms and used for the same actions as Apples,
> > but at a cheaper rate.
> >
> > -   Incense is useless and exists only due to a ruleset bug.
> >
> >  ++--++--+--+--++---+
> >  ||Coins ||Stones|Apples| Corn ||Incense|
> >
> >
> >
> > +--++--++--+--+--++---+
> > |ATMunn || 94 || 6 | 42 | 3 ||
> > |Aris || 132 || 5 | 40 | 12 ||
> > |Corona || 153 || 64 | 129 | 49 ||
> > |CuddleBeam|| 70 || 11 | 28 | 9 ++---+
> > |D. Margaux|| 10 || 5 | 10 | 0 || 5 |
> > |G. || 435 || 0 | 0 | 0 ++---+
> > |Murphy || 96 || 114 | 174 | 31 ||
> > |omd || 30 || 0 | 10 | 2 ||
> > |PSS || 43 || 5 | 25 | 1 ||
> > |Trigon || 62 || 2 | 19 | 18 ||
> > |twg || 396 || 35 | 121 | 4 ||
> > |V.J. Rada || 115 || 10 | 80 | 3 ||
> > +--++--++--+--+--++
> > |Gaelan || 67 || 14 | 38 | 2 ||
> > |Kenyon || 0 || 0 | 0 | 0 ||
> > |nichdel || 30 || 0 | 15 | 0 ||
> > |o || 20 || 0 | 10 | 0 ||
> > |Ouri || 10 || 0 | 5 | 0 ||
> > |pokes || 20 || 0 | 10 | 0 ||
> > |Quazie || 20 || 0 | 10 | 0 ||
> > |Telnaior || 10 || 0 | 5 | 0 ||
> > |天火狐 || 10 || 0 | 5 | 0 ||
> > +--++--++--+--+--++
> > |Agora || 1012 || - | - | - ||
> > +--++--++--+--+--++
> > ||Coins ||Stones|Apples| Corn ||
> > ++--++--+--+--++
> >
> > REFINED AND UNREFINED CURRENCIES
> >
> > =
> >
> > Rules summary:
> >
> > -   Ore is obtained from Mines and converted to Steel using Refineries.
> >
> > -   Steel is used to upgrade Production Facilities and maintain Processing
> > Facilities.
> >
> > -   Lumber is obtained from Orchards and converted to Papers using Mills.
> > It is also used to build, upgrade and maintain most Production
> > Facilities.
> >
> > -   Papers are currently useless.
> >
> > -   Cotton is obtained from Farms and converted to Fabric using Looms.
> >
> > -   Fabric is used to upgrade high-rank Production Facilities.
> >
> >  ++--+--++--+--++--+--++
> >  || Ore  |Steel ||Lumber|Papers||Cotton|Fabric||
> >
> >
> >
> > +--++--+--++--+--++--+--++
> > |ATMunn || 0 | 5 || 7 | 18 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |Aris || 0 | 5 || 5 | 19 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |Corona || 32 | 4 || 27 | 37 || 0 | 233 ||
> > |CuddleBeam|| 4 | 5 || 8 | 14 || 9 | 0 ||
> > |D. Margaux|| 0 | 5 || 5 | 3 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |G. || 0 | 0 || 0 | 0 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |Murphy || 8 | 87 || 56 | 52 || 3 | 38 ||
> > |omd || 0 | 5 || 0 | 4 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |PSS || 0 | 5 || 5 | 9 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |Trigon || 4 | 5 || 0 | 11 || 0 | 50 ||
> > |twg || 8 | 110 || 70 | 21 || 0 | 7 ||
> > |V.J. Rada || 0 | 5 || 10 | 26 || 0 | 0 ||
> > +--++--+--++--+--++--+--++
> > |Gaelan || 6 | 5 || 2 | 14 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |Kenyon || 0 | 0 || 0 | 0 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |nichdel || 0 | 5 || 0 | 6 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |o || 0 | 5 || 0 | 4 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |Ouri || 0 | 5 || 0 | 2 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |pokes || 0 | 5 || 0 | 4 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |Quazie || 0 | 5 || 0 | 4 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |Telnaior || 0 | 5 || 0 | 2 || 0 | 0 ||
> > |天火狐 || 0 | 0 || 0 | 2 || 0 | 0 ||
> > +--++--+--++--+--++--+--++
> > || Ore |Steel ||Lumber|Papers||Cotton|Fabric||
> > ++--+--++--+--++--+--++
> >
> > FACILITY INVENTORIES
> >
> > =
> >
> > Rules summary:
> >
> > -   You can only access the inventories of facilities at your location.
> > -   You can give assets to any facility, regardless of owner.
> > -   You can take assets from your own facilities.
> > -   You can take assets from