Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer is ah-ah-ah-ah-staying aaaaalive
On 10/23/2019 7:55 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On 10/23/2019 4:52 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2019, Cuddle Beam wrote: > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY >> >> I switch my master switch to myself > > As I expected. :P > > BTW I think the safety in the last paragraph of Rule 1885 is buggy: if you > had done this _between_ the auction end and the winner paying, e would > still > have been obligated to pay. > > Greetings, > Ørjan. See last paragraph of R1885. Sorry, hit send too soon. I meant: READING last paragraph of R1885, "ongoing" is not necessarily well-defined (but this probably should be clarified).
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer is ah-ah-ah-ah-staying aaaaalive
On 10/23/2019 4:52 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2019, Cuddle Beam wrote: > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY >> >> I switch my master switch to myself > > As I expected. :P > > BTW I think the safety in the last paragraph of Rule 1885 is buggy: if you > had done this _between_ the auction end and the winner paying, e would > still > have been obligated to pay. > > Greetings, > Ørjan. See last paragraph of R1885.
DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer is ah-ah-ah-ah-staying aaaaalive
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019, Cuddle Beam wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY I switch my master switch to myself As I expected. :P BTW I think the safety in the last paragraph of Rule 1885 is buggy: if you had done this _between_ the auction end and the winner paying, e would still have been obligated to pay. Greetings, Ørjan.
DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Popularity* Contest
On Fri, 18 Oct 2019, Jason Cobb wrote: On 10/18/19 5:05 PM, Nch wrote: When a player registers for the first time since this proposal was passed, they enter the Popularity* Contest automatically. Possible ambiguity: is this registration for the first time ever (that happens to be after the proposal was passed), or is it the first registration after the proposal passed (whether or not the person was ever registered before the proposal passed). Ironically, if the phrasing had used "after", then I'd agree it was ambiguous, but since it uses "since", I think it can only mean the latter. Greetings, Ørjan.
Re: Forbidden Rule update (Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proto: Interesting Chambers v2)
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 4:38 PM Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > >* players SHALL NOT clearly identify this rule - doing so is the > > Class 1 Crime of Uttering the Forbidden Name. > > > > Any player CAN, without objection, exorcise this rule (cause it to > > repeal itself). > > Do you envision a way for a player to complete the intent and exorcising > without breaking the SHALL? I certainly can’t see one. On the other hand, I suspect that it’s possible to repeal the rule by proposal without clearly identifying it. The solution would be to clearly identify a class of rules of which only this rule is a member, and repeal each rule in that class. For instance, “Repeal each rule that explicitly specifies that it need not be given a title by the Rulekeepor, in ascending numerical order”. The fact that this is the only rule meeting that description probably doesn’t make it a clear specification of this specific rule, but the phrasing would nevertheless manage to repeal it, since the operation is unambiguous. Even if that isn’t true, it’s a Class-1 crime, which is hardly the end of the world. -Aris > >
Re: Forbidden Rule update (Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proto: Interesting Chambers v2)
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: * players SHALL NOT clearly identify this rule - doing so is the Class 1 Crime of Uttering the Forbidden Name. Any player CAN, without objection, exorcise this rule (cause it to repeal itself). Do you envision a way for a player to complete the intent and exorcising without breaking the SHALL? Greetings, Ørjan.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ -- Is ais523 a player?
On 10/22/2019 11:37 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2019, 01:40, Ada Worcester < ag...@ada.pikhq.com> wrote:
>> I initiate a Call for Judgement into the following: {
>> The person known as ais523 is a player.
>> }
>>
>> I bar ais523 from this case.
>
> Oh great, this is probably going to get assigned to me, isn't it.
>
> Quick straw poll:
Are you semi-favoring the case, or trying to avoid it? Asking for a friend.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ -- Is ais523 a player?
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, at 08:31, Gaelan Steele wrote:
> Also, even after ais noted that they knew they weren’t registered, I
> still didn’t realize that it was a registration attempt—I assumed it
> would be some scam involving the “right now” and some sort of
> retroactive registration.
>
> Gaelan
>
> > On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:37 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> >
> > On 23 Oct 2019, 01:40, Ada Worcester < ag...@ada.pikhq.com> wrote:
> >> I initiate a Call for Judgement into the following: {
> >> The person known as ais523 is a player.
> >> }
> >>
> >> I bar ais523 from this case.
> >
> > Oh great, this is probably going to get assigned to me, isn't it.
> >
> > Quick straw poll: did anyone actually interpret ais523's initial message as
> > a potential registration attempt before e started talking about it? I
> > already have two "noes" from myself and Gaelan.
> >
> > -twg
>
>
I'm pretty doubtful as well, to be honest -- it doesn't seem to be unambiguous
or clear enough at all. Just trying to get ahead of possibly confusing game
state shenanigans, really.
--
Ada "pikhq" Worcester, Agoran Spy
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ -- Is ais523 a player?
Also, even after ais noted that they knew they weren’t registered, I still
didn’t realize that it was a registration attempt—I assumed it would be some
scam involving the “right now” and some sort of retroactive registration.
Gaelan
> On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:37 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
>
> On 23 Oct 2019, 01:40, Ada Worcester < ag...@ada.pikhq.com> wrote:
>> I initiate a Call for Judgement into the following: {
>> The person known as ais523 is a player.
>> }
>>
>> I bar ais523 from this case.
>
> Oh great, this is probably going to get assigned to me, isn't it.
>
> Quick straw poll: did anyone actually interpret ais523's initial message as a
> potential registration attempt before e started talking about it? I already
> have two "noes" from myself and Gaelan.
>
> -twg
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ -- Is ais523 a player?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 06:37, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2019, 01:40, Ada Worcester < ag...@ada.pikhq.com> wrote:
> > I initiate a Call for Judgement into the following: {
> > The person known as ais523 is a player.
> > }
> >
> > I bar ais523 from this case.
>
> Oh great, this is probably going to get assigned to me, isn't it.
>
> Quick straw poll: did anyone actually interpret ais523's initial message as a
> potential registration attempt before e started talking about it? I already
> have two "noes" from myself and Gaelan.
>
> -twg
I suspected e was at least trying to raise the question of whether
that message registered em, but I wasn't sure whether e really
expected it to work. (Also, I've given arguments in the "Democracy"
thread.)
--
- Falsifian
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ -- Is ais523 a player?
On 10/23/19 2:37 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: Quick straw poll: did anyone actually interpret ais523's initial message as a potential registration attempt before e started talking about it? I already have two "noes" from myself and Gaelan. -twg Nope. -- Jason Cobb
