DIS: test 2
my filters work differently if the subject is munged with "DIS" etc. this is testing that part of the filter.
DIS: Re: OFF: [Distributor] list status
On 12/27/2019 5:22 PM, omd via agora-official wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 11:00 PM omd wrote: - *Temporarily* turn on from-address rewriting for all users, so relayed list messages have headers like I had to do some custom filtering to get my sent emails to live with the rest of my agora mail - this email is testing what those filters do with the "via" re-write.
DIS: Re: OFF: [Distributor] list status
On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 8:40 PM Ørjan Johansen wrote: > As I mentioned in my previous message, there's no reverse DNS on > vps.qoid.us, which I could imagine some servers caring about. Fixed. Sorry for not responding to your previous messages!
DIS: Re: OFF: [Distributor] list status
As I mentioned in my previous message, there's no reverse DNS on vps.qoid.us, which I could imagine some servers caring about. Greetings, Ørjan. On Fri, 27 Dec 2019, omd via agora-official wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 11:00 PM omd wrote: I think at this point there's nothing I can do but wait, and hope Gmail starts trusting the new server more. Hopefully that doesn't take long, or I'll have to do something silly like turn on from-address rewriting. Well, that didn't work so well. A lot of hosts have continued to reject or at least throttle mail from the new server: Dec 27 19:49:15 ec2 postfix/smtp[9751]: C6D7260DAC: host mx3.mail.icloud.com[17.142.163.12] refused to talk to me: 550 5.7.0 Blocked - see https://support.proofpoint.com/dnsbl-lookup.cgi?ip=52.73.134.173 Dec 27 19:49:19 ec2 postfix/smtp[9753]: 324C160DF5: host in1-smtp.messagingengine.com[66.111.4.70] refused to talk to me: 451 4.7.1 : Client host rejected: Host 52.73.134.173/ec2-52-73-134-173.compute-1.amazonaws.com has exceeded the per-day email limit of 40, try again later - helo= - RLR001 Dec 27 19:49:30 ec2 postfix/smtp[9749]: 55A7C60E4F: to=, relay=alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[64.233.186.27]:25, delay=420346, delays=420331/0.01/9.9/5.6, dsn=4.7.28, status=deferred (host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[64.233.186.27] said: 421-4.7.28 [52.73.134.173 15] Our system has detected an unusual rate of 421-4.7.28 unsolicited mail originating from your IP address. To protect our 421-4.7.28 users from spam, mail sent from your IP address has been temporarily 421-4.7.28 rate limited. Please visit 421-4.7.28 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedRateLimitError to 421 4.7.28 review our Bulk Email Senders Guidelines. x15si32376191pgk.593 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)) New plan: - Go back to sending mail from the original server, which at least didn't get throttled so much. - *Temporarily* turn on from-address rewriting for all users, so relayed list messages have headers like From: So-and-so via agora-business Note that several months ago, I enabled an option that performs the same rewriting only when the original From domain has a strict DMARC policy, instructing recipients to reject all mail from those domains unless properly signed – which relayed list messages won't be, because the list rewrites the subject line. In practice, this only affected messages from Murphy. But now it's temporarily on for everyone. - Configure DKIM signing and SPF so that recipients know that the owner of agoranomic.org authorizes the outgoing messages. This should avoid the errors that Gmail was returning for the original server. When I tested by sending a message from an agoranomic.org address to my Gmail account, it was accepted but sent to spam... *hopefully* the list is treated no worse. - Now that the mail server configuration has been fixed to prevent backscatter, the original server's IP (71.19.146.223) should get off the Backscatterer.org list in a few weeks, and Gmail's IP semi-block (which is probably separate from Backscatterer.org, though who knows) will hopefully expire in a similar time period. - At that point, hopefully I'll be able turn from-address rewriting back off and have things go back to normal. Sorry, I still haven't explained things properly, but I'm a bit stressed out at the moment. :/
DIS: [Reporter] Last week in Agora
Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reporter/tree/master/weekly_summaries For the week 2019-12-16..22: # Mailing list trouble * Certain list subscribers continue to be unable to receive list messages. Our H. Distributor, omd, is alerted at the very end of the week and begins to work on the problem. (Thread: "test".) # Miscellaneous * Falsifian points out some errors in the last Full Logical Ruleset, which was published in October; some also apply to the Short Logical Rulesets that Jason Cobb recently published. # Events that may not have happened due to mailing list trouble Because a substantial number of players may not have received the messages involved, the following events might not have happened. * Voting begins on Proposal 8277, which begins "I transfer 5 coins to each player...". * Murphy calls CFJs on what the effect of the proposal would be if adopted. There was some discussion last week on it last week. * H. ADoP Murphy resolves the Prime Minister election as FAILED QUORUM and initiates a new one. * omd is randomly selected as our new Comptrollor. -- - Falsifian
Re: DIS: [MUD] New Agoran MUD
On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 11:28 AM James Cook wrote: > On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 at 04:55, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Alright, everyone, this would seem to be as good a time as any to make > > the grand announcement, so here goes nothing. Agora has a new MUD. > > It's almost completely empty at the moment, and the game mechanics are > > as of yet quite undefined. That being said, it does exist. > > Thanks for creating it. I don't know whether I will have much time to > contribute, but I'm certainly curious about it. What role do you > expect it to play in the game? Will we create an Agoran subgame that > delegates its mechanics to the MUD? Is that what happened last time > Agora had a MUD? I was thinking it might become a discussion forum eventually; I don’t really see a need for it to have further official status under the rules. I was mostly hoping that it might serve as a place for Agorans to hang out and build things together, since we’re too physically disparate for meeting in person to really work. As for specifics, I could see it having exhibits representing specific aspects of Agoran history, or perhaps spilling over into a more conventional MUD with quests, combat, and/or crafting. It really depends on what people are interested in adding; museum style stuff wouldn’t be too hard, actual game mechanics would require someone to put in the time to program them. I’ll coordinate and give suggestions, but the most important concerns are user demand and what people are willing to implement. -Aris >
Re: DIS: [MUD] New Agoran MUD
On 12/22/2019 8:55 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: For the MUD to become more than a barren wasteland, Agorans will need to work to build new areas and program game mechanics. I am no great programmer myself, so while I will be happy to coordinate work, I will rely on the good people of Agora to implement most of the necessary software. To that end, I call upon anyone who has interest in either programming or simply building new areas to respond here. Users are welcome as well, but if we only have users and no developers, there will be nothing to use. I would be super-happy to help build stuff I love building text adventure spaces - only caveat is whatever learning curve there is on coding, but maybe this is the excuse to finally get on board with Python that I've been avoiding for 10+ years. -G.
Re: DIS: [MUD] New Agoran MUD
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 at 04:55, Aris Merchant wrote: > Alright, everyone, this would seem to be as good a time as any to make > the grand announcement, so here goes nothing. Agora has a new MUD. > It's almost completely empty at the moment, and the game mechanics are > as of yet quite undefined. That being said, it does exist. Thanks for creating it. I don't know whether I will have much time to contribute, but I'm certainly curious about it. What role do you expect it to play in the game? Will we create an Agoran subgame that delegates its mechanics to the MUD? Is that what happened last time Agora had a MUD? -- - Falsifian
Re: DIS: [MUD] New Agoran MUD
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 at 04:55, Aris Merchant wrote: > As a final matter, with regard to the PM Election, my election speech > follows: I'm bringing a MUD back to Agora. > > -Aris That's a good speech, but have you become a candidate? If you meant to do it with this message, it's nttpf. I guess it's moot if the election wasn't actually initiated due to the mailing list trouble. -- - Falsifian
DIS: Pinpointing end of list outage (was BUS: Might as well try)
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 at 04:02, James Cook wrote: > I intend to Declare Apathy without objection, specifying myself. Some data about trying to pinpoint the end of the mailing list outage. It looks like it's slightly different per list; I suppose this may reflect the dates omd updated the configurations. Dates below are according to the archives at mailman.agoranomic.org. agora-discussion: * I didn't receive: Dec 22 20:37 UTC: Jason Cobb's "Forwarding test" [5] * I did receive: Dec 22 23:24 UTC, omd's "Will Gmail deliver a list message if it's sent from a different IP?" [6] agora-official: * I didn't receive: Dec 22 18:53 UTC: ADoP report [3] * I did receive: Dec 23 04:00 UTC: omd's announcement "[Distributor] list status" [4]. agora-business: * I didn't receive: Dec 23 04:03 UTC: the two responses to the above-quoted message [0, 1]. * I did recieve: Dec 23 07:27 UTC: Aris's response to omd's announcement "[Distributor] list status" [2]. [0] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2019-December/041740.html [1] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2019-December/041741.html [2] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2019-December/041744.html [3] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2019-December/013300.html [4] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2019-December/013301.html [5] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2019-December/056007.html [6] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2019-December/056008.html -- - Falsifian
