DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8473-8476
I award myself a black ribbon -- Trigon currently on a phone On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 17:45 Jason Cobb via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 8473-8476 > = > > IDTitle Result > --- > 8473 Plain Old Bribery ADOPTED > 8474 Agora the karma bank ADOPTED > 8475 Saving SponsorshipADOPTED > 8476 Contract charitiesADOPTED > > I hereby resolve the Agoran decisions to adopt the below proposals. > > The quorum for all below decisions was 9. > > VOTING STRENGTHS > > Strength is 3 unless otherwise noted. > ~: player has voting strength 0 > %: player has voting strength 5 > ^: player has voting strength 6 > &: player has voting strength 7 > > PROPOSALS > = > > PROPOSAL 8473 (Plain Old Bribery) > AUTHOR: Jason > CLASS: ORDINARY > CHAMBER: PARTICIPATION > SPONSORED: NO > FOR (10): ATMunn, Aris, Falsifian, G.^, Jason%, Murphy, Publius Scribonius > Scholasticus&, Trigon, nix&, twg > AGAINST (2): R. Lee~, omd% > PRESENT (0): > BALLOTS: 12 > AI (F/A): 43/5 (AI=1.0) > POPULARITY: 0.667 > OUTCOME: ADOPTED > > PROPOSAL 8474 (Agora the karma bank) > AUTHOR: G. > CLASS: ORDINARY > CHAMBER: PARTICIPATION > SPONSORED: NO > FOR (9): ATMunn, Aris, Falsifian, G.^, Jason%, Murphy, Trigon, omd%, twg > AGAINST (3): Publius Scribonius Scholasticus&, R. Lee~, nix& > PRESENT (0): > BALLOTS: 12 > AI (F/A): 34/14 (AI=1.0) > POPULARITY: 0.500 > OUTCOME: ADOPTED > > PROPOSAL 8475 (Saving Sponsorship) > AUTHOR: Aris > CLASS: ORDINARY > CHAMBER: PARTICIPATION > SPONSORED: NO > FOR (10): ATMunn, Aris, Falsifian, G.^, Jason%, Publius Scribonius > Scholasticus&, R. Lee~, Trigon, nix&, twg > AGAINST (0): > PRESENT (2): Murphy, omd% > BALLOTS: 12 > AI (F/A): 40/0 (AI=1.0) > POPULARITY: 0.833 > OUTCOME: ADOPTED > > PROPOSAL 8476 (Contract charities) > AUTHOR: ATMunn > CLASS: ORDINARY > CHAMBER: ECONOMY > SPONSORED: YES > FOR (10): ATMunn%, Aris, Falsifian, G.^, Jason, Murphy, Publius Scribonius > Scholasticus, R. Lee~, Trigon&, twg > AGAINST (0): > PRESENT (2): nix%, omd > BALLOTS: 12 > AI (F/A): 36/0 (AI=1.0) > POPULARITY: 0.833 > OUTCOME: ADOPTED > > The full text of each ADOPTED proposal is included below: > > // > ID: 8473 > Title: Plain Old Bribery > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: Jason > Co-authors: G. > > > Every player who cast a valid non-withdrawn unconditional ballot FOR > this proposal earns a Black Ribbon. > > [Note to the Tailor: the definition of Black Ribbons in R2438 means > that, immediately after this proposal is adopted, people will have the > Black Ribbons without needing to separately claim them.] > > // > ID: 8474 > Title: Agora the karma bank > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: G. > Co-authors: omd > > > [First, a partial reset. People with negative karma are mostly zombies > or people with fairly old sins; worth a full forgiveness/reset. People > with positive karma have generally done good things more recently - a > partial reset for them, akin to the just-passed July releveling. Agora > is balanced one last time so we can start counting total positivity or > negativity from here on out.] > > Each person with positive karma has eir karma set to half its current > value, rounded up. > > Each person with negative karma has eir karma set to 0. > > Agora's karma is then set such that the sum of all Karma values in the > game equals 0. > > > Amend Rule 2510 (Such is Karma) by deleting: > > 4. Not result in Agora's karma moving farther away from 0. > > and by replacing its last paragraph with: > > At the beginning of each quarter, the Karma of every person is > halved (rounding towards 0). > > [It's still an exchange of karma, but you can take freely from Agora. > Everybody's karma decays every quarter, but Agora's karma isn't reset > to zero-sum, therefore Agoran's karma is an inverse measure of our > overall positivity/negativity over time.] > > // > ID: 8475 > Title: Saving Sponsorship > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: Aris > Co-authors: > > > Each of the following proposals is hereby rendered sponsored: > - "Plain Old Bribery", by Jason > - "Agora the karma bank", by G. > > // > ID: 8476 > Title: Contract charities > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: ATMunn > Co-authors: G., Falsifian, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > > [Comment: The original version was by G., then resubmitted by Falsifian, > then again by me. :) P.S.S. also suggested a minor change, so I included > em as a coauthor as well.] > > Enact the following rule, Charities: > > Donation Level is a natural switch for contracts, tracked by the > Notary, with a default of 0 and a maximum of 25. A contract with >
DIS: Re: BUS: [attn. Tailor] Ribbon claims
On 7/19/20 8:01 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > On 7/19/2020 4:49 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> For the avoidance of doubt, I award myself a Black Ribbon if I do not >> already have one. [This should do nothing.] >> >> I award myself a white ribbon, as I have never owned one before. >> > I think you *do* have to award, because "earning" is the prerequisite not > the actual award? > > I award myself a Black Ribbon. > > -G. > The reason you don't is so that Power-1 statutes can award black ribbons, because awarding the ribbon is secured, but earning it is not. Rule 2438 says: > Black (K): A statute CAN, as part of its effect, cause a person to > earn a Black Ribbon. When this occurs, this Rule awards that > person a Black Ribbon. The proposal caused some people to earn black ribbons, so Rule 2438 awarded them black ribbons. -- Jason Cobb
DIS: Re: BUS: [attn. Tailor] Ribbon claims
On 7/19/20 8:01 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > On 7/19/2020 4:49 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> For the avoidance of doubt, I award myself a Black Ribbon if I do not >> already have one. [This should do nothing.] >> >> I award myself a white ribbon, as I have never owned one before. >> > > I think you *do* have to award, because "earning" is the prerequisite not > the actual award? > > I award myself a Black Ribbon. > > -G. > No, they don't because Rule 2438 does it for them: > When this occurs, this Rule awards that > person a Black Ribbon. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
DIS: Re: BUS: [attn. Tailor] Ribbon claims
On 7/19/2020 5:01 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:> On 7/19/2020 4:49 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:>> For the avoidance of doubt, I award myself a Black Ribbon if I do not>> already have one. [This should do nothing.] I award myself a white ribbon, as I have never owned one before.>>> > I think you *do* have to award, because "earning" is the prerequisite not> the actual award?> > I award myself a Black Ribbon. Oh nvm I forgot the newish rules language for Black.
DIS: Re: BUS: [DoV] With apologies to G.
On 7/19/2020 4:50 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I Raise a Banner. > Congratulations At just over a year that's a really fast Renaissance! Dunno if it's fastest ever, but it's up there.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Removals
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 4:17 PM ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 7/19/2020 4:24 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > - Warmer Welcomes [1] > > - Regulated Welcoming Coinage > > > > [1] Title may include quotes on either side > > should I not be putting quotes around my titles? If you're labeling the title with a colon, you shouldn't also use quotes. With both the colon and the quotes, it looks (to me, at least) like the quotes might be part of the title. -Aris
DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Removals
On 7/19/2020 4:24 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: - Warmer Welcomes [1] - Regulated Welcoming Coinage [1] Title may include quotes on either side should I not be putting quotes around my titles? -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary and Czar of Russia :)
DIS: Re: OFF: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution of Spring 1903
Updated https://agoranomic.org/omd-diplonomic-2020-maps/.
DIS: [Promotor] Draft
Here's my draft report.
-Aris
---
PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
The proposal pool contains the following proposals:
Author(s)AITitle
---
Jason1.0 More officer cards
Murphy, R. Lee 3.0 Simpler ribbon switches
Murphy, CB 3.0 Clarify asset ownership
Legend: * : Democratic proposal.
# : Ordinary proposal, unset chamber.
e : Economy ministry proposal.
f : Efficiency ministry proposal.
j : Justice ministry proposal.
l : Legislation ministry proposal.
p : Participation ministry proposal.
^ : Sponsored proposal.
The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
the information shown above shall control.
//
Title: More officer cards
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: Jason
Co-authors:
Amend Rule 2624 (Card Administration) by replacing the final paragraph
(including the list) with the following:
{
The officeholder of an office CAN by announcement grant another player a
specified type of card, specifying that office, under the following
conditions:
* e has not done so in reference to that office in the current Agoran month,
* that office's interests includes the card's associated ministry,
* the player receiving the card does not hold an office with the card's
associated ministry in its interests, and
* the player receiving the card is not a zombie.
}
//
Title: Simpler ribbon switches
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Murphy
Co-authors: R. Lee
Amend Rule 2438 (Ribbons) by replacing this text:
Ribbon Ownership is a secured person switch, tracked by the
Tailor in eir monthly report, whose values are the subsets of
the set of types of Ribbon, defaulting to the empty set. If the
rules are amended to change the types of Ribbon, if a player's
Ribbon Ownership is subsequently illegal, then it is updated by
removing all nonexistent types rather than resetting the entire
value to default.
To "award a person a " is to add that type of Ribbon
to that person's Ribbon Ownership. A person "owns a "
if that type of Ribbon is an element of eir Ribbon Ownership.
with this text:
For each type of Ribbon, Ribbon Ownership is a secured
negative boolean person switch, tracked by the Tailor in eir
monthly report.
To "award a person a " is to flip that person's
Ribbon Ownership to True. A person "owns a " if eir Ribbon Ownership is True.
and by replacing this text:
While a person owns all types of Ribbon, that person can Raise a
Banner by announcement. This causes that person to win the game.
That person's Ribbon Ownership becomes the empty set.
with this text:
While a person owns all types of Ribbon, that person can Raise a
Banner by announcement. This causes that person to win the game.
When a person wins this way, for each type of Ribbon, that
person's Ribbon Ownership is flipped to False.
For each type of Ribbon, for each person whose Ribbon Ownership prior to
the adoption of this proposal included that type, flip eir
Ribbon Ownership to True.
//
Title: Clarify asset ownership
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Murphy
Co-authors: CuddleBeam
Amend Rule 2576 (Ownership) to read:
Each asset has exactly one owner.
If ownership of an asset is restricted to a class of entities,
then that asset CANNOT be gained by or transferred to an entity
outside that class. By default, ownership of an asset is
restricted to Agora, players, and contracts, but an asset's
backing document may modify this.
If an asset's owner would otherwise be nonexistent, indeterminate,
or invalid, then it is owned by the Lost and Found Department (if
possible) or destroyed (otherwise), subject to modification by its
backing document. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, the Lost
and Found Department can own assets of every type. Assets owned by
the Lost and Found Department can be transferred or destroyed by
any player without objection.
//
DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport
I wrote: Mon, Jul 13 2020 (21:11:21) - ATMunn published the Notary's weekly report Mon, Jul 13 2020 (21:11:21) - ATMunn published the Notary's weekly report Unofficial CoE, accepted: This was actually a CoE followed by a single revision. Fixed in database.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution and Enactment of Proposals
On 7/19/2020 10:35 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > There was only one remaining proposal, which I resolved in the same email: > totally missed that (and somehow thought there were more), thanks! -G.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution and Enactment of Proposals
On 7/19/20 12:08 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > PSS wrote: >> All proposals submitted before this sentence took effect, that have not >> yet been resolved in some manner, CAN and SHALL be resolved as described >> above, before the next turn (after this sentence takes effect) begins; >> after doing so, the Judge CAN remove this sentence by announcement. > > H. Judge Publius, > > it looks like you removed the above sentence added by the 'anonymous' > proposal in the latest rules; I was looking for where you resolved the old > proposals and announced the deletion of this sentence? Or did you judge > that the previous ones that had enough Against votes to have been > "resolved in some manner" before the 'anonymous' proposal was adopted, > even if the results/voting totals were never announced? (sorry if I'm > blind and missing an email where you did this!) > > -G. > There was only one remaining proposal, which I resolved in the same email: > Pursuant to Rule 8, I resolve "Disagreeable Proposal v2" by announcing > that it had 2 votes FOR it. > > Having resolved all outstanding proposals, I remove the final sentence > of rule 8 by announcement. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Coopor voting extended
On 7/19/20 11:49 AM, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: > To the best of my knowledge, quorum for the Coopor election is 9, but > only 8 players have voted. I issue a humiliating public reminder to: On the Coopor Election I vote endorse G. -- nix Prime Minister, Webmastor, Platonic Pirate
DIS: Re: BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution and Enactment of Proposals
PSS wrote: > All proposals submitted before this sentence took effect, that have not > yet been resolved in some manner, CAN and SHALL be resolved as described > above, before the next turn (after this sentence takes effect) begins; > after doing so, the Judge CAN remove this sentence by announcement. H. Judge Publius, it looks like you removed the above sentence added by the 'anonymous' proposal in the latest rules; I was looking for where you resolved the old proposals and announced the deletion of this sentence? Or did you judge that the previous ones that had enough Against votes to have been "resolved in some manner" before the 'anonymous' proposal was adopted, even if the results/voting totals were never announced? (sorry if I'm blind and missing an email where you did this!) -G.
Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Diplonomic 2020] Daily Status of Play: Spring 1903 Part 2
On 7/19/20 1:44 AM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > at 5:13 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-official > wrote: >> Please also >> remember to include conditional orders for building and disbanding. >> While you may not believe that such a thing will occur, I would >> recommend that you give me something anyway, just to be safe. > > Do you mean retreating? There shouldn’t be building and disbanding in > the Spring… right? Yes, I'm not really sure what I was thinking in writing that. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Diplonomic 2020] Daily Status of Play: Spring 1903 Part 2
lolol On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:45 PM omd via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > at 5:13 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-official > wrote: > > > It is now after 00:00 UTC on July 19, 2020, so the fifth negotiating > > phase has ended and the fifth orders phase has begun. You may now submit > > orders. Please submit orders if you haven't already. > > A Bur - Pic > A Hol - Bel > A Ruh S A Hol - Bel > F HEL - NTH > > Retreat orders, in order of preference: > > A Bur: Bel, Par, Pic, Mun > A Hol: Bel, Kie, Ruh > A Ruh: Hol, Kie, Mun (impossible?) > F HEL: Den, Kie, Hol > > > Please also > > remember to include conditional orders for building and disbanding. > > While you may not believe that such a thing will occur, I would > > recommend that you give me something anyway, just to be safe. > > Do you mean retreating? There shouldn’t be building and disbanding in > the > Spring… right? > -- >From R. Lee
DIS: Re: BUS: Dipolnomic proposal
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 5:59 PM N. S. via agora-business wrote: > > I make the following diplonomic proposal named eat the rich > > Make the following rule 'after each build phase, the power with the most > units has one of their units randomly destroyed' I really dislike the randomness element. It's aesthetically and strategically problematic. -Aris
