Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [@ministor] lordy look at the time

2020-10-31 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020, 10:01 PM ais523 via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 2020-10-31 at 21:57 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > On 10/31/20 9:52 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> > > Take 2, now with extra pointless retroactivity
> > >
> > > I issue the following rulebending form:
> > > --
> > > The following document, dated 01-Nov-2020 01:38:25 UTC, is hereby
> > > ratified:  "G's Ministry Focus is Legacy.  This document does not
> > > purport
> > > to be a report or otherwise imply the value of any other Ministry
> > > Focus
> > > switches."
> > > --
> >
> > CoE: the above excludes some non-default values (just to be safe).
>
> I'm not sure you can CoE a ratification attempt that isn't self-
> ratification. (Is this safety against the document somehow being
> interpreted as self-ratifying in addition to being ratified manually?
> I'd expect the ratification to do the same thing regardless of the
> mechanism that caused it to ratify.)
>
> --
> ais523
>

Yes, that was exactly the intent (safety in case it was somehow also
self-ratifying).

>


DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [@ministor] lordy look at the time

2020-10-31 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sat, 2020-10-31 at 21:57 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 10/31/20 9:52 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> > Take 2, now with extra pointless retroactivity
> > 
> > I issue the following rulebending form:
> > --
> > The following document, dated 01-Nov-2020 01:38:25 UTC, is hereby
> > ratified:  "G's Ministry Focus is Legacy.  This document does not
> > purport
> > to be a report or otherwise imply the value of any other Ministry
> > Focus
> > switches."
> > --
> 
> CoE: the above excludes some non-default values (just to be safe).

I'm not sure you can CoE a ratification attempt that isn't self-
ratification. (Is this safety against the document somehow being
interpreted as self-ratifying in addition to being ratified manually?
I'd expect the ratification to do the same thing regardless of the
mechanism that caused it to ratify.)

-- 
ais523



DIS: Re: [@ministor] lordy look at the time

2020-10-31 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


Sorry, head's *really* not in the game.  fails of course misremembered the
rule.

On 10/31/2020 6:38 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> 
> [It's been a hard week my heads not in the game - I hope you'll not mind
> that it's prerogative of the dictator to be late, on very rare occasions.]
> 
> I issue the following rulebending form:
> -
> The following emergency regulation "BOO!  er, am I late?" is enacted:
> 
>   When this regulation is created, G.'s Ministry Focus is flipped
>   to Legacy.
> 
> --
> 


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] It's not theft if it was offered for free

2020-10-31 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 10/31/20 4:56 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 1:56 PM Falsifian via agora-business
>  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 08:51:14PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
>>> I submit (but do not pend) the following proposal:
>>>
>>> Title: I definitely authored this
>>> Adoption index: 2.0
>>> Author: ATMunn
>>> Co-author: Jason
>>>
>>> Amend Rule 2531 by replacing the first paragraph with the following:
>>> {
>>> Any attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE if it does not include value of
>>> the fine in blots, the name of the person being fined (the perp), and the
>>> specific reason for the fine.
>>> }
>>>
>>> Amend Rule 2531 by renumbering the list so that the numbers start at 1 and
>>> end at 10, with each number other than the fist one higher than the
>>> previous.
>>
>> I'm confused. What do you consider to be the first paragraph of that rule?
>>
>> If item (1) was part of the first paragraph, then the amended rule will
>> only have 9 list items.
>>
>> If item (1) was not part of the first paragraph, then it will still be
>> there so that text will appear twice.
> 
> Now might be a good time to remind everyone that this proposal also
> does not have a title.
> 
> -Aris
> 

I see a title in the submission?

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] It's not theft if it was offered for free

2020-10-31 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
> > Okay, that makes more sense, but I'm still skeptical. Can you say more
> > about that precedent? Normally the only way I can tell for sure where
> > one paragraph ends and the next starts is formatting (a blank line).
> 
> The precedent was established in CFJ 3452 and reaffirmed in CFJs 3777-3778.
> 
> >
> > I'd be more comfortable if changes specified in proposals didn't rely on
> > CFJ precedents unless they're really obvious and uncontroversial. (CFJ
> > judgments can turn out to have been incorrect, right?)
> >
> Sure, they can turn out to be wrong, but I think in this case
> specifically it's clear enough.
> 
> -- 
> Jason Cobb

Thanks for pointing me to the precedent. Having just read it (CFJ 3452
itself seems most relevant) --- how do we know R2531 isn't all one
paragraph?

Surely if list items can occur at the end of a paragraph, they can also
occur in the middle of one? E.g:

The following are fruit:

  (1) apples

  (2) oranges

but rocks are not fruit.

I think that would pretty clearly be one paragraph under the prose
standard. In the case of CFJ 3452, G. decided the last sentence of Rule
1728/22 constituted its own paragraph, but did not explain why; maybe
it's because that last sentence represents a new thought, independent
of the topic of deciding whether a dependent action succeeded.

-- 
Falsifian


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] It's not theft if it was offered for free

2020-10-31 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/31/20 5:02 PM, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 04:57:31PM -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion 
> wrote:
>> On 10/31/20 4:55 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 08:51:14PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
 I submit (but do not pend) the following proposal:

 Title: I definitely authored this
 Adoption index: 2.0
 Author: ATMunn
 Co-author: Jason

 Amend Rule 2531 by replacing the first paragraph with the following:
 {
 Any attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE if it does not include value of
 the fine in blots, the name of the person being fined (the perp), and the
 specific reason for the fine.
 }

 Amend Rule 2531 by renumbering the list so that the numbers start at 1 and
 end at 10, with each number other than the fist one higher than the
 previous.
>>> I'm confused. What do you consider to be the first paragraph of that rule?
>>>
>>> If item (1) was part of the first paragraph, then the amended rule will
>>> only have 9 list items.
>>>
>>> If item (1) was not part of the first paragraph, then it will still be
>>> there so that text will appear twice.
>>>
>> The first paragraph contains the first list item. By precedent,
>> paragraph structure is determined by prose, not formatting. Once that is
>> removed, there will be 10 list items. Right now it looks like there are
>> 9 because there are two number 5s due to a slightly broken proposal.
>>
>> -- 
>> Jason Cobb
> Okay, that makes more sense, but I'm still skeptical. Can you say more
> about that precedent? Normally the only way I can tell for sure where
> one paragraph ends and the next starts is formatting (a blank line).


The precedent was established in CFJ 3452 and reaffirmed in CFJs 3777-3778.


>
> I'd be more comfortable if changes specified in proposals didn't rely on
> CFJ precedents unless they're really obvious and uncontroversial. (CFJ
> judgments can turn out to have been incorrect, right?)
>
Sure, they can turn out to be wrong, but I think in this case
specifically it's clear enough.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor



Re: DIS: Gio list configuration, and @Murphy (was [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] Forbes 478)

2020-10-31 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion



> On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Falsifian via agora-discussion 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:05:57PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On 10/27/2020 10:04 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:
>>> 
>>> I CoE the quoted report. Murphy published salaries on October 25. I
>>> missed this event due to the message arriving in my spam inbox along
>>> with every other message e sent to tue.
>> 
>> ohhh so that's why I missed the reverse auction thing
> 
> This could become a problem with our new forum, Gio, too.
> 
> If I remember right, in the past, this has happened because a
> combination of Murphy's email domain's DMARC configuration and DKIM
> signatures cause any modification of eir emails' subject lines (adding
> BAK: to the start) to look suspicious. omd has configured our main lists
> to re-write the From: line to a different address to get around that.
> 
> It looks like Gio has the same two behaviours: it rewrites the subject
> line, and keeps the email as From: its original sender.
> 
> Two requests:
> * Could Murphy (or someone with a similar config) try sending a message
>  to Gio so we can see what happens?
> * If it indeed lands in spam, is it possible to configure groups.io to
>  do what omd's lists do?
> 
> — 
> Falsifian

IIRC, Gio rewrites the From: header from some people, presumably those with 
DMARC issues.

Gaelan

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] It's not theft if it was offered for free

2020-10-31 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 04:57:31PM -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 10/31/20 4:55 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 08:51:14PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> >> I submit (but do not pend) the following proposal:
> >>
> >> Title: I definitely authored this
> >> Adoption index: 2.0
> >> Author: ATMunn
> >> Co-author: Jason
> >>
> >> Amend Rule 2531 by replacing the first paragraph with the following:
> >> {
> >> Any attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE if it does not include value of
> >> the fine in blots, the name of the person being fined (the perp), and the
> >> specific reason for the fine.
> >> }
> >>
> >> Amend Rule 2531 by renumbering the list so that the numbers start at 1 and
> >> end at 10, with each number other than the fist one higher than the
> >> previous.
> > I'm confused. What do you consider to be the first paragraph of that rule?
> >
> > If item (1) was part of the first paragraph, then the amended rule will
> > only have 9 list items.
> >
> > If item (1) was not part of the first paragraph, then it will still be
> > there so that text will appear twice.
> >
> 
> The first paragraph contains the first list item. By precedent,
> paragraph structure is determined by prose, not formatting. Once that is
> removed, there will be 10 list items. Right now it looks like there are
> 9 because there are two number 5s due to a slightly broken proposal.
> 
> -- 
> Jason Cobb

Okay, that makes more sense, but I'm still skeptical. Can you say more
about that precedent? Normally the only way I can tell for sure where
one paragraph ends and the next starts is formatting (a blank line).

I'd be more comfortable if changes specified in proposals didn't rely on
CFJ precedents unless they're really obvious and uncontroversial. (CFJ
judgments can turn out to have been incorrect, right?)

-- 
Falsifian


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] It's not theft if it was offered for free

2020-10-31 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 1:57 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
 wrote:
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 1:56 PM Falsifian via agora-business
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 08:51:14PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> > > I submit (but do not pend) the following proposal:
> > >
> > > Title: I definitely authored this
> > > Adoption index: 2.0
> > > Author: ATMunn
> > > Co-author: Jason
> > >
> > > Amend Rule 2531 by replacing the first paragraph with the following:
> > > {
> > > Any attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE if it does not include value of
> > > the fine in blots, the name of the person being fined (the perp), and the
> > > specific reason for the fine.
> > > }
> > >
> > > Amend Rule 2531 by renumbering the list so that the numbers start at 1 and
> > > end at 10, with each number other than the fist one higher than the
> > > previous.
> >
> > I'm confused. What do you consider to be the first paragraph of that rule?
> >
> > If item (1) was part of the first paragraph, then the amended rule will
> > only have 9 list items.
> >
> > If item (1) was not part of the first paragraph, then it will still be
> > there so that text will appear twice.
>
> Now might be a good time to remind everyone that this proposal also
> does not have a title.
>
> -Aris

Wrong proposal, please ignore!

-Aris


DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] It's not theft if it was offered for free

2020-10-31 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/31/20 4:55 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 08:51:14PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
>> I submit (but do not pend) the following proposal:
>>
>> Title: I definitely authored this
>> Adoption index: 2.0
>> Author: ATMunn
>> Co-author: Jason
>>
>> Amend Rule 2531 by replacing the first paragraph with the following:
>> {
>> Any attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE if it does not include value of
>> the fine in blots, the name of the person being fined (the perp), and the
>> specific reason for the fine.
>> }
>>
>> Amend Rule 2531 by renumbering the list so that the numbers start at 1 and
>> end at 10, with each number other than the fist one higher than the
>> previous.
> I'm confused. What do you consider to be the first paragraph of that rule?
>
> If item (1) was part of the first paragraph, then the amended rule will
> only have 9 list items.
>
> If item (1) was not part of the first paragraph, then it will still be
> there so that text will appear twice.
>

The first paragraph contains the first list item. By precedent,
paragraph structure is determined by prose, not formatting. Once that is
removed, there will be 10 list items. Right now it looks like there are
9 because there are two number 5s due to a slightly broken proposal.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor



DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] It's not theft if it was offered for free

2020-10-31 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 1:56 PM Falsifian via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 08:51:14PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> > I submit (but do not pend) the following proposal:
> >
> > Title: I definitely authored this
> > Adoption index: 2.0
> > Author: ATMunn
> > Co-author: Jason
> >
> > Amend Rule 2531 by replacing the first paragraph with the following:
> > {
> > Any attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE if it does not include value of
> > the fine in blots, the name of the person being fined (the perp), and the
> > specific reason for the fine.
> > }
> >
> > Amend Rule 2531 by renumbering the list so that the numbers start at 1 and
> > end at 10, with each number other than the fist one higher than the
> > previous.
>
> I'm confused. What do you consider to be the first paragraph of that rule?
>
> If item (1) was part of the first paragraph, then the amended rule will
> only have 9 list items.
>
> If item (1) was not part of the first paragraph, then it will still be
> there so that text will appear twice.

Now might be a good time to remind everyone that this proposal also
does not have a title.

-Aris


Re: DIS: Incorrect link in Registrar report

2020-10-31 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 08:48:17PM -0400, Sgeo via agora-discussion wrote:
> The link to https://agoranomic.org/Registrar/Reports/ appears to be an
> older link, and should be to https://agoranomic.org/Registrar/

Thanks; done for future reports.

-- 
Falsifian


DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-10-31 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW

I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector
is the Assessor, the quorum is 9, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
conditional votes).

ID  Author(s) AITitle
---
8516#^  nix   2.0   adJustments
8517*^  Telnaior, Jason, Trigon   3.0   Phasing Out Zombies
8518*^  Aris, Falsifian, nix  3.0   Asset Rounding
8519#^  ATMunn, Jason 2.0   I definitely authored this
8520*^  P.S.S., Jason 3.0   (untitled)
8521#^  Jason, G., [1]2.0   Stones

The proposal pool is currently empty.

Legend: * : Democratic proposal.
# : Ordinary proposal, unset chamber.
c : Compliance ministry proposal (ordinary).
e : Economy ministry proposal (ordinary).
g : Legacy ministry proposal (ordinary).
l : Legislation ministry proposal (ordinary).
p : Participation ministry proposal (ordinary).
^ : Sponsored proposal.

[1] Aris, nix, Trigon, Gaelan, Falsifian

The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
the information shown above shall control.

//
ID: 8516
Title: adJustments
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: nix
Co-authors:


Amend "Office Interests" by replacing "Ministry Impact" with "Chamber".

(Current text does nothing because 'Ministry Impact' means nothing.)

Amend R2624, "Focus Grants", by replacing "50 coins" with "50 boatloads
of coins".

(To match with the upcoming boatloads economy.)

//
ID: 8517
Title: Phasing Out Zombies
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Telnaior
Co-authors: Jason, Trigon


Enact a new power 3.0 rule entitled "Zombie Phase-Out" with the the following
text:

  While a zombie's talisman is owned by Agora, that zombie's resale
  value is continuously set to 0.

//
ID: 8518
Title: Asset Rounding
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Aris
Co-authors: Falsifian, nix


Amend Rule 2577, "Asset Actions", by replacing:

  When a rule indicates transferring an amount that is not a natural
  number, the specified amount is rounded up to the nearest natural
  number.

with:

  When a rule indicates creating, destroying, or transferring an amount of
  assets that is not a natural number, the specified amount is rounded up
  to the nearest natural number after all other calculations.


Amend the Rule titled "Floating Rate Fleet" by deleting the text
"When a quantity of assets is expressed in boatloads, it is rounded up
to the next whole asset."

//
ID: 8519
Title: I definitely authored this
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: ATMunn
Co-authors: Jason


Amend Rule 2531 by replacing the first paragraph with the following:
{
  Any attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE if it does not include value
  of the fine in blots, the name of the person being fined (the perp), and
  the specific reason for the fine.
}

Amend Rule 2531 by renumbering the list so that the numbers start at 1
and end at 10, with each number other than the fist one higher than the
previous.

//
ID: 8520
Title: (untitled)
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Co-authors: Jason


Amend the final item in Rule 2438, "Ribbons" to read as follows: {
  - Otherwise, if e has not been awarded that type of Ribbon or
the corresponding type of Glitter since e last earned or came
to qualify for that type of Ribbon, and has not been so
awarded five or more times within the past 24 hours, any
player CAN, by announcement, award em that type of Glitter.
}

//
ID: 8521
Title: Stones
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: Jason
Co-authors: G., Aris, nix, Trigon, Gaelan, Falsifian


Enact a new rule, power 2, title "Stones", with the following text:
{
  A stone is a unique indestructable liquid asset defined by the rules. To
  define a stone, the definition must include:
  (i)   A name unique among stones;
  (ii)  The escape risk of the stone, which must be a percentage between
  0% and 100% inclusive;
  (iii) A scroll, which is a document specifying the effects of the stone
  (iv)  Optionally, a frequency, which must be one of daily, weekly,
  monthly, or quarterly.

  Ownership of stones is entirely restricted to Agora and active players.
  If a stone is owned by the Lost and Found Department or in abeyance, it
  is immediately transferred to Agora.

  The Stonem

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Farmers] Potato report

2020-10-31 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 09:22:57PM +0100, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:
> A more correct hopefully more correct correcter Farming Report
> 
> PSS: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> 
> OwnerPotato
> ---
> Cuddlebeam  0
> 
> Gaelan  5
> 
> Aris0
> 
> Falsifan0
> 
> PSS 2
> 
> Trigon  0
> 
> ATMunn  1
> 
> Nix 1
> 
> 
> History of Potato (not self-ratifying):
> 
> 10,000 BC: Potatoes were first planted in South America
> 
> 1840: Blight decimate potato crops across Europe
> 
> Oct 21 2020: Cuddlebeam +1 Potato
> 
> Nov 32 2020: Gaelan + 10 Potato
> 
> Last week: Aris, PSS + 1 Potato
> 
> Also last week: Falsifan spawns Spudders
> 
> Oct 26 2020: CB + 1 Potato
> 
> Sept 21 2020: Do you remember, the 21st night of Septembah?
> 
> Today: Things happened
> 
> 28 Oct 2020: Trigon trades Russet

Didn't we decide all the Splat Market trades didn't work because
Potatoes aren't a currency?

(Not CoE-ing yet to give our Farmest a break.)

-- 
Falsifian


DIS: Gio list configuration, and @Murphy (was [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] Forbes 478)

2020-10-31 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:05:57PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 10/27/2020 10:04 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:
> > 
> > I CoE the quoted report. Murphy published salaries on October 25. I
> > missed this event due to the message arriving in my spam inbox along
> > with every other message e sent to tue.
> 
> ohhh so that's why I missed the reverse auction thing

This could become a problem with our new forum, Gio, too.

If I remember right, in the past, this has happened because a
combination of Murphy's email domain's DMARC configuration and DKIM
signatures cause any modification of eir emails' subject lines (adding
BAK: to the start) to look suspicious. omd has configured our main lists
to re-write the From: line to a different address to get around that.

It looks like Gio has the same two behaviours: it rewrites the subject
line, and keeps the email as From: its original sender.

Two requests:
* Could Murphy (or someone with a similar config) try sending a message
  to Gio so we can see what happens?
* If it indeed lands in spam, is it possible to configure groups.io to
  do what omd's lists do?

-- 
Falsifian


DIS: Re: OFF: [Webmastor] Agora Online (October 2020)

2020-10-31 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 10/31/20 2:46 PM, nix via agora-official wrote:
> Please alert the Webmastor of any missing links.

I realized immediately upon sending this that I forgot to add the 
AgoraQuest link to the "Other Archives" section. The link is here 
(https://agoranomic.org/AgoraQuest/) and it will be included in next 
month's.

-- 
nix
Webmastor, Ministor



DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2020-10-31 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion

On 10/31/20 11:45 AM, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote:

Office Report    Last Published Late

Coopor Barrels, Bargains 2020-10-01
Herald Patent titles 2020-09-30
Ministor   Interests, Foci   (never)
Registrar  Player history    2020-10-18
Rulekeepor Full Logical Ruleset  2020-10-25
Tailor Ribbons   2020-10-01
Webmastor  Web resources 2020-09-30



Treasuror gained a monthly report with the boatload economy. It includes 
the Unit of Flotation as well as some other related statistics.


--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Treasuror Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8507-8515

2020-10-31 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 10/31/20 8:58 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via 
agora-discussion wrote:

For everyone's reference: Glitter must be processed by the Tailor before
the Treasuror.


I notice that the Herald is not notified in the subject. Perhaps 
flagging the message as [Glitter] would be the most helpful.


--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


DIS: Re: BAK: [Proto] Glitter for Friends

2020-10-31 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion

PSS wrote:


AI: 3.0
Co-author: Jason
Text: {

Amend the final item in Rule 2438, "Ribbons" to read as follows: {
 - Otherwise, if e has not been awarded that type of Ribbon or
   the corresponding type of Glitter since e last earned or came
   to qualify for that type of Ribbon, and has not been so
   awarded five or more times within the past 24 hours, any
   player CAN, by announcement, award em that type of Glitter.
}
}


This would make the "five or more times" cap ambiguous. Say there's
a Black Glitter scam, omd qualifies for it and I award it to em five
times on the same day; if e qualifies for it a sixth time, then I
definitely can't ward it to em that same day, but can another player?


DIS: Re: BUS: @Treasuror Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8507-8515

2020-10-31 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 10/31/20 10:31 AM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> 
> On 10/28/20 2:28 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:
>> PROPOSAL 8515 (adMinistration v1.1)
>> AUTHOR: nix
>> CLASS: ORDINARY
>> CHAMBER: ECONOMY
>> SPONSORED: YES
>> FOR (11): ATMunn&, Aris, Baron von Vanderham, Falsifian, Gaelan@, Jason, 
>> Telnaior, Trigon&, nix, sukil, twg
>> AGAINST (0):
>> PRESENT (3): D. Margaux, G.^, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>> BALLOTS: 14
>> AI (F/A): 40/0 (AI=2.0)
>> POPULARITY: 0.786
>> OUTCOME: ADOPTED
> This proposal having no against votes, I award myself orange glitter.
> 

For everyone's reference: Glitter must be processed by the Tailor before
the Treasuror.

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