DIS: Diplonomic - An Incomplete Archive
As attached. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason MESSAGE 729532155532804167 FROM nix IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:00:19.931: 1 MESSAGE 729533293565050892 FROM captainsisay (R. Lee) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:04:51.259: Deleted one MESSAGE 72950378194967 FROM nix IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:05:00.036: no you deleted 2 MESSAGE 729533539166715925 FROM CodeTriangle (finance triangle) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:05:49.815: I was rooting for 2 MESSAGE 729533715193135174 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:06:31.783: So, Diplonomic. MESSAGE 729533861272485922 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:07:06.611: We have been given a perfectly normal game of diplomacy and we can change it however we want. MESSAGE 729533941983477880 FROM Random Internet Cat (Jason) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:07:25.854: what could possibly go wrong MESSAGE 729533943573119066 FROM nix IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:07:26.233: split all the nations in half and add 7 more players MESSAGE 729533977962217532 FROM CodeTriangle (finance triangle) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:07:34.432: Proposal: add the rest of the continents MESSAGE 729534281701130321 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:08:46.849: My proposal is to allow team play. MESSAGE 729534306019704942 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:08:52.647: But that's pretty tame. MESSAGE 729534353536712845 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:09:03.976: Extending the map sounds cool. MESSAGE 729534363066302584 FROM captainsisay (R. Lee) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:09:06.248: My proposal is that idj how this game works MESSAGE 729534422281355364 FROM Random Internet Cat (Jason) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:09:20.366: proposal: ratify that @captainsisay knows how the game works MESSAGE 729534435627892756 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:09:23.548: We can also add portals if we want to. MESSAGE 729534576472358973 FROM nix IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:09:57.128: not portals MESSAGE 729534589097213981 FROM nix IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:10:00.138: v long bridges MESSAGE 729534855964131409 FROM captainsisay (R. Lee) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:11:03.764: You misspelled elon musk hyperloops MESSAGE 729534970867220522 FROM CodeTriangle (finance triangle) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:11:31.159: Proposal: nuclear weapons. MESSAGE 729534979964403823 FROM nix IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:11:33.328: ~~I assumed we wanted them to work~~ MESSAGE 729535082980966471 FROM captainsisay (R. Lee) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 03:11:57.889: Lolol MESSAGE 729709289018490970 FROM ATMunn (friendly neighboorhood notary) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 14:44:11.845: planes MESSAGE 729795491218325545 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:26:44.051: That's... not a bad idea. MESSAGE 729795686379552818 FROM CodeTriangle (finance triangle) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:27:30.581: That is a fun idea MESSAGE 729796309187428392 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:29:59.07: Plane rules: They can go on any province but take up two unit slots. They can maybe also convoy armies? MESSAGE 729796409720569899 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:30:23.039: Very much a draft. MESSAGE 729796454033391709 FROM G. (G., The Final Judge) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:30:33.604: air support -> support actions 2 spaces away (that would be huge) MESSAGE 729796606328832052 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:31:09.914: That *would* be huge. MESSAGE 729796694321135669 FROM G. (G., The Final Judge) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:31:30.893: full stacking: navy with a plane on top with an army on top -> aircraft carrier based paratroops MESSAGE 729796802005696602 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:31:56.567: *raises eyebrows* MESSAGE 729796880950886460 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:32:15.389: But I have an idea for planes based on your model. MESSAGE 729797104167288863 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:33:08.608: They can support two provinces away or one province away. They can share a province with other units of the same nation. They can only be based on land. If their province is taken they are destroyed. MESSAGE 729797315115876432 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:33:58.902: They don't count towards the defense of their own province. MESSAGE 729797327392342138 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:34:01.829: Glass cannon. MESSAGE 729797347667869868 FROM G. (G., The Final Judge) IN #diplonomic ON 2020-07-06 AT 20:34:06.663: counterbalancing suggestion: these are aircraft bases not just planes. Takes
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Personhood Revisited
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:33 PM nix via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On 1/12/21 7:18 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> >
> > I submit, but do not pend, the following proposal:
> >
> > {
> > Title: Personhood Revisited
> > Power: 3.0
> > Author: nix
> > Co-Authors: Gaelan, Aris
> >
> > Amend R869 by replacing:
> >
> > Any entity that is or ever was an organism generally capable of
> > freely originating and communicating independent thoughts and
> > ideas is a person. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no other
> > entities are persons.
> >
> > with:
> >
> > Every intelligence is a person. A group of persons can elect to
> > create a composite person, which is in eirself a person for all
> > Agoran purposes. A person cannot become a player if e is part of a
> > composite person that is already a player. A composite person
> > cannot become a player if any part of em is already a player. A
> > person does not ever cease to be a person for the purposes of
> > Agora.
> >
> > [This reworks and combines versions put forth by both Aris and Gaelan.]
> > }
> >
> > --
> > nix Webmastor, Ministor, Herald
> >
>
> It occurred to me too late that this provides a workaround to the
> deregistration lock out, so I may put forth another version that also
> amends that to account for composite persons.
>
> Anyway, looking forward to any feedback.
Without offense, nix, I think mine is better in basically every way.
Gaelan's was supposed to be lighter weight than mine — by merging
ours, you've landed up with something that's actually more complex
than mine (or, as complex, at the very least). Here's my current
draft:
{
Title: Personhood
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Aris
Co-authors: Trigon, nix, G., Jason, ATMunn
Amend Rule 869, "How to Join and Leave Agora", by replacing:
Any entity that is or ever was an organism generally capable of
freely originating and communicating independent thoughts and
ideas is a person. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no other
entities are persons.
with:
Every intelligence is a person. A group of intelligences may also
elect to form a single person, as long as each intelligence only plays as
one person at a time; this provision shall be interpreted
with deference towards the good-faith of the parties and the customs of
honorable play. Additionally, a former person is always considered a person.
Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, only the entities
described above are persons.
}
In particular, "this provision shall be interpreted with deference
towards the good-faith of the parties and the customs of honorable
play." helps defuse a lot of the potential problems that might
otherwise arise.
-Aris
DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Personhood Revisited
On 1/12/21 6:18 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
I submit, but do not pend, the following proposal:
{
Title: Personhood Revisited
Power: 3.0
Author: nix
Co-Authors: Gaelan, Aris
Amend R869 by replacing:
Any entity that is or ever was an organism generally capable of
freely originating and communicating independent thoughts and
ideas is a person. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no other
entities are persons.
with:
Every intelligence is a person. A group of persons can elect to
create a composite person, which is in eirself a person for all
Agoran purposes. A person cannot become a player if e is part of a
composite person that is already a player. A composite person
cannot become a player if any part of em is already a player. A
person does not ever cease to be a person for the purposes of
Agora.
[This reworks and combines versions put forth by both Aris and Gaelan.]
}
For anyone not obsessively watching the Discord and/or IRC, this stems
from a larger discussion about revamping personhood to be more
inclusive. If you have thoughts on the matter, simply mention personhood
on the Discord or the ##nomic channel and be prepared for several very
opinionated Agorans to be summoned.
--
Trigon
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don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Personhood Revisited
On 1/12/21 7:18 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
>
> I submit, but do not pend, the following proposal:
>
> {
> Title: Personhood Revisited
> Power: 3.0
> Author: nix
> Co-Authors: Gaelan, Aris
>
> Amend R869 by replacing:
>
> Any entity that is or ever was an organism generally capable of
> freely originating and communicating independent thoughts and
> ideas is a person. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no other
> entities are persons.
>
> with:
>
> Every intelligence is a person. A group of persons can elect to
> create a composite person, which is in eirself a person for all
> Agoran purposes. A person cannot become a player if e is part of a
> composite person that is already a player. A composite person
> cannot become a player if any part of em is already a player. A
> person does not ever cease to be a person for the purposes of
> Agora.
>
> [This reworks and combines versions put forth by both Aris and Gaelan.]
> }
>
> --
> nix Webmastor, Ministor, Herald
>
It occurred to me too late that this provides a workaround to the
deregistration lock out, so I may put forth another version that also
amends that to account for composite persons.
Anyway, looking forward to any feedback.
--
nix Webmastor, Ministor, Herald
DIS: Discord digest 2021-01-12
THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS NO GAME ACTIONS. SERIOUSLY, IT CONTAINS NO GAME ACTIONS. DISREGARD ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS MESSAGE SAYING IT CONTAINS A GAME ACTION. MESSAGE 744021878745858056 FROM nix IN #generalchat ON 2020-08-15 AT 02:37:19.151: trigon you're literally the worst person I know and I wish nothing but curses on you and your kind MESSAGE 795741354884988968 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #quick-questions-and-presumably-answers-also ON 2021-01-04 AT 19:52:03.164: "Locked is a switch switch with values unlocked (default) and locked. If a switch is locked, it CANNOT be flipped." MESSAGE 795741743559475252 FROM Gaelan IN #quick-questions-and-presumably-answers-also ON 2021-01-04 AT 19:53:35.831: confusion is a switch switch switch with possible values of "Fine" and "WTF?". Any player who finds a switch switch too confusing may flip its confusion to "WTF?" by announcement MESSAGE 795746456026873866 FROM G. (G., The Final Judge) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-04 AT 20:12:19.371: *Yes Minister* has a great quote: "The opposition is only the opposition-in-exile. The opposition-in-residence is the civil service." MESSAGE 795746640648470548 FROM AgoraBot IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-04 AT 20:13:03.388: Trigon says: dang i got no quotes in the agora digest MESSAGE 796118734221082664 FROM Random Internet Cat (Jason) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-05 AT 20:51:37.409: simple: if a power isn't explicitly given to any entity, it is given to the supreme court, who will delegate it as it sees fit MESSAGE 796306903365582859 FROM AgoraBot IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-06 AT 09:19:20.429: Trigon says: oh no cuddlebeam is too powerful MESSAGE 797305355674714112 FROM nix IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-09 AT 03:26:50.01: I would be pretty upset if someone intentionally just tried to ratify bullshit MESSAGE 797620617800450048 FROM CodeTriangle (trigonberry) IN #generalchat ON 2021-01-10 AT 00:19:34.358: LET THE RECORD SHOW, however, that i did it begrudgingly MESSAGE 797970572662669364 FROM CodeTriangle (trigonberry) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-10 AT 23:30:10.099: there we go, report up MESSAGE 797971006785323059 FROM nix IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-10 AT 23:31:53.602: oh wait it's all wrong MESSAGE 797971023118598154 FROM nix IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-10 AT 23:31:57.496: every number MESSAGE 797971027401506816 FROM CodeTriangle (trigonberry) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-10 AT 23:31:58.517: yep MESSAGE 797971048799666226 FROM CodeTriangle (trigonberry) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-10 AT 23:32:03.619: shoulda checked MESSAGE 797971096354816041 FROM CodeTriangle (trigonberry) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-10 AT 23:32:14.957: it was a trap to keep you on your toes MESSAGE 798247200249348107 FROM nix IN #quick-questions-and-presumably-answers-also ON 2021-01-11 AT 17:49:23.255: This message consists only of attachments: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724097300540162088/798247200320389130/06a.png MESSAGE 798268052025901076 FROM alzzx (ubercrow) IN #generalchat ON 2021-01-11 AT 19:12:14.706: i just wanted to see the final set of strips and lo and behold - here i am knee deep in *Buoyancy Control Switches* MESSAGE 798283278234419240 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #generalchat ON 2021-01-11 AT 20:12:44.917: I'm sad I missed all of ubercrow's questions. I hope there are more. I like questions. MESSAGE 798285822871863318 FROM AgoraBot IN #botspam ON 2021-01-11 AT 20:22:51.606: " <@!724759340682182699> is just Jason typing really fast." judged IRRELEVANT. MESSAGE 798310052489986058 FROM CodeTriangle (trigonberry) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-11 AT 21:59:08.397: i will dictate your dictation MESSAGE 798313352030846987 FROM Cuddlebeam (humble agoran farmer) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-11 AT 22:12:15.069: how is officerhood gerontocratic MESSAGE 798313473993998356 FROM Cuddlebeam (humble agoran farmer) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-11 AT 22:12:44.147: like what 'power' does officerhood grant MESSAGE 798313674996449291 FROM nix IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-11 AT 22:13:32.07: all the officers have secret cocktail parties and play Agora 2 on a secret list MESSAGE 798314391770365962 FROM Random Internet Cat (Jason) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2021-01-11 AT 22:16:22.962: > it's just recordkeeping agora in a nutshell MESSAGE 798324658441027624 FROM CodeTriangle (finance triangle) IN #drafting ON 2021-01-11 AT 22:57:10.727: they call peppers berries this is not acceptible MESSAGE 798324765369696317 FROM nix IN #drafting ON 2021-01-11 AT 22:57:36.221: I don't know. I'm not berry bothered by it MESSAGE 798329628912910417 FROM bookofportals (Aris) IN #generalchat ON 2021-01-11 AT 23:16:55.78: That can be read several days. MESSAGE 798687636859781130 FROM CodeTriangle
