Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Trying to get on board
2 aug. 2021 22:12:44 Jason Cobb via agora-business : On 8/2/21 3:02 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: It's okay to take part in conversations via BUS as long as you're careful. I was recommending against selling Cuddlebeam your focus grants and victory cards. Okay, clarification time: * I strongly recommend against selling your future focus grants to anyone. It's likely to hinder your participation in the game. * I am biased against Cuddlebeam winning, so I would prefer you to not sell victory assets to em, but that may be the best strategy for you. Thank you for the clarification. I will not sell. -- D. Wet www.nomica.nl
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Trying to get on board
On 8/2/2021 12:50 PM, Trigon via agora-discussion wrote: > On 02/08/2021 19:46, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> "Recommend against" might be too general. Selling might be a good >> strategy depending on your goals (e.g. whether you're trying to win this >> time versus selling for coins to hold, and use the coins to win next time). > > I think the point was that selling to anyone else would probably be > preferable to selling to Cuddlebeam. > Well I'm sure I don't know why to avoid CB specifically - if you've got a sense of the card's value and the offer matches expectations. I haven't seen any numbers on the table, so wouldn't want to prejudice anyone. After all, if you're not in a hurry to sell, "get at least two offers" seems like a good rule of thumb regardless of whom the first offer is from... -G.
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Trying to get on board
On 02/08/2021 19:46, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: "Recommend against" might be too general. Selling might be a good strategy depending on your goals (e.g. whether you're trying to win this time versus selling for coins to hold, and use the coins to win next time). I think the point was that selling to anyone else would probably be preferable to selling to Cuddlebeam. -- Trigon ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST I’m always happy to become a party to contracts. I LOVE SPAGHETTI transfer Jason one coin nch was here I hereby don't... trust... the dragon... don't... trust... the dragon... Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Trying to get on board
On 8/2/2021 12:02 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 8/2/21 2:51 PM, D. Wet via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 2021-07-30 22:09, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >>> On 7/30/21 3:04 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: Would you be interested in selling your Victory Card and/or Focus gains to me? I'd prefer to keep these conversations private but I don't mind conversing via a-b only. Cheers! >>> >>> I strongly recommend against this. >> Jason, >> >> I will follow your recommendation and not participate in conversations >> via BUS. >> >> --- >> D. Wet >> www.nomica.nl >> >> >> > > It's okay to take part in conversations via BUS as long as you're > careful. I was recommending against selling Cuddlebeam your focus grants > and victory cards. > "Recommend against" might be too general. Selling might be a good strategy depending on your goals (e.g. whether you're trying to win this time versus selling for coins to hold, and use the coins to win next time). The value of these things can be highly volatile. If you've got the last card needs for someone else's win, sky's the limit (or at least say 2000 coins based on past wins). But on the flipside, value becomes 0 if you hold too long and a win happens. Most recently, the last auctioned victory card went for 629 coins (which was probably artificially low due to the risk of gaining the other, much less valuable auction item). The top bid in the current auction (for one VC) is 1717 coins, with multiple bids higher than 1000. At the very least, if you're selling you'd *definitely* want to consider multiple offers for a single card, hugely multiplied if you're thinking of selling your focus grant ability. -G.
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Trying to get on board
On 2021-07-30 22:09, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: On 7/30/21 3:04 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: Would you be interested in selling your Victory Card and/or Focus gains to me? I'd prefer to keep these conversations private but I don't mind conversing via a-b only. Cheers! I strongly recommend against this. Jason, I will follow your recommendation and not participate in conversations via BUS. --- D. Wet www.nomica.nl
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Trying to get on board
On 2021-07-30 21:04, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: I grant myself a Victory Point. I act on behalf of Cuddlybanana to grant myself a Victory Point. I create the following Contract called "AYO WASSUP DWET" with the text: How's it going man? How did you find nomic, and Agora? Would you be interested in selling your Victory Card and/or Focus gains to me? I'd prefer to keep these conversations private but I don't mind conversing via a-b only. Cheers! On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 7:15 PM D. Wet via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: 30 jul. 2021 17:21:00 Falsifian : > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 01:42:30PM +, D. Wet wrote: >> Hello fellow Agorans, >> >> You probably have seen that I took some actions on the business list. >> My >> ambition is to learn to play by doing, not by asking someone to spell >> out >> what I SHOULD do. I do read the rules and observe what others are >> doing. >> Based on my understanding, I just try stuff that might work. >> >> If this way of working causes to much noise in your established >> processes, >> please let me know. Then I will ask someone to guide me. >> >> -- >> D. Wet >> Nomica.nl > > That is a good way to play. If you do something other people don't > expect, that's even better, because it keeps things interesting. > > Normally this kind of email would go to the agora-discussion list. The > reason is that you might accidentally take actions if you send your > message to a public forum (as you did) and the message seems to contain > actions. However, you are not annoying anyone (at least, not me) by > sending it to a public forum --- you're just risking your own safety in > the game, which is more fun for everyone ;-) > > BTW, a lot of discussion happens on IRC/Discord these days. Joining > those is completely optional, though; email discussion is still fine > (and I personally prefer it for most topics). > > -- > Falsifian Falsifian, thank you for responding. I have to announce that I intend not to actively participate in the discussions via email, IRC or Discord. By limiting myself only to interaction via the business list, I want to create a situation to learn only by direct interaction with Agorans bounded by the Ruleset. So, after this message informing my fellow Agorans about this strategy, I'll be silent here until I am unable to proceed with my strategy or decide to change it. Of course my previous remark about creating too much noise still stands. Not sending messages myself, doesn't mean I am not open to messages from others. -- D. Wet www.nomica.nl Cuddle Beam, thank you for interest in me. However, I do not consent to the contract "AYO WASSUP DWET". According to Rule 1742 I will not become a party of it. Also, I am not interested in selling my Victory Card and/or Focus gains. Since they are in the Welcome Package I assume they have value, but I can't estimate how much yet. Therefore I hold on to both of them. --- D. Wet www.nomica.nl
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Trying to get on board
On 30/07/2021 19:04, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: I grant myself a Victory Point. I act on behalf of Cuddlybanana to grant myself a Victory Point. Fails. You've already done both of those this month. -- Trigon ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST I’m always happy to become a party to contracts. I LOVE SPAGHETTI transfer Jason one coin nch was here I hereby don't... trust... the dragon... don't... trust... the dragon... Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
