Re: DIS: Apathy warning

2020-06-26 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:52 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
 wrote:
> Explanation for those curious:
>
> The attachment was the EICAR antivirus test file, which everything is
> supposed to treat as malware, but is really just a 68-byte text file.
> Gmail wouldn't even send it from my own account, which is why I had to
> use protonmail.

Indeed, Gmail rejected the list server's attempts to deliver it:

Error: 552 5.7.0 This message was blocked because its content presents
a potential security issue. Please visit
https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BlockedMessage to review our
message content and attachment content guidelines. a66si14491710pfb.91
- gsmtp

If there hadn't been objections, this would be similar to CFJ 1905:

https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?1905

But slightly different, since the message was dropped by list
subscribers' mail servers rather than the list server itself.


Re: DIS: Apathy warning

2020-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/24/20 8:51 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/24/20 6:08 AM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
>>  On Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 04:16:48 GMT+1, random-internet-cat via 
>> agora-business  wrote:
>>> I, the player known as Jason that regularly sends email 
>>> fromjason.e.c...@gmail.com, intend, without objection, to declare apathy, 
>>> specifying [omd, Jason].
>>>
>>> omd, if you see this, hi!
>>>
>>> I have sent messages from this email before - I believe it was to send some 
>>> code related to my ruleset thesis.
>> This one, too.
>>
> 
> Awww...
> 
> Explanation for those curious:
> 
> The attachment was the EICAR antivirus test file, which everything is
> supposed to treat as malware, but is really just a 68-byte text file.
> Gmail wouldn't even send it from my own account, which is why I had to
> use protonmail.
> 
> The second attempt was because I realized I never specified a set of
> players to win on the first attempt, and because I realized I should
> probably bribe the Distributor.
> 

This is an interesting test case. Given that you knew that it would
likely cause a problem and that it is designed to be treated in the
manner it was, I'm inclined to think that this would not have been
effective.

-- 

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Re: DIS: Apathy warning

2020-06-24 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/24/20 6:08 AM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
>  On Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 04:16:48 GMT+1, random-internet-cat via 
> agora-business  wrote:
>> I, the player known as Jason that regularly sends email 
>> fromjason.e.c...@gmail.com, intend, without objection, to declare apathy, 
>> specifying [omd, Jason].
>>
>> omd, if you see this, hi!
>>
>> I have sent messages from this email before - I believe it was to send some 
>> code related to my ruleset thesis.
> This one, too.
>

Awww...

Explanation for those curious:

The attachment was the EICAR antivirus test file, which everything is
supposed to treat as malware, but is really just a 68-byte text file.
Gmail wouldn't even send it from my own account, which is why I had to
use protonmail.

The second attempt was because I realized I never specified a set of
players to win on the first attempt, and because I realized I should
probably bribe the Distributor.

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: DIS: Apathy warning

2020-06-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/24/20 6:45 AM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote:
> I never actually received Jason's messages that you are replying to here,
> so it doesn;'t count as public i guess. Anyway I object to Jason's apathy
> intents.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 8:09 PM Alex Smith via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> 
>>  On Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 04:16:48 GMT+1, random-internet-cat via
>> agora-business  wrote:
>>> I, the player known as Jason that regularly sends email
>> fromjason.e.c...@gmail.com, intend, without objection, to declare apathy,
>> specifying [omd, Jason].
>>>
>>> omd, if you see this, hi!
>>>
>>> I have sent messages from this email before - I believe it was to send
>> some code related to my ruleset thesis.
>>
>> This one, too.
>>
>> --
>> ais523
>>
> 
> 

My memory is that including extra sections can make a message invalid,
but purely designing a message to not be received can't, but someone
would have to CFJ on it.

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DIS: Apathy warning (was: BUS: [Proposal] Fuses)

2020-06-24 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
 On Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 04:16:48 GMT+1, random-internet-cat via 
agora-business  wrote:
> I, the player known as Jason that regularly sends email 
> fromjason.e.c...@gmail.com, intend, without objection, to declare apathy, 
> specifying [omd, Jason].
> 
> omd, if you see this, hi!
> 
> I have sent messages from this email before - I believe it was to send some 
> code related to my ruleset thesis.

This one, too.

-- 
ais523