DIS: Re: BUS: [Important and Very Cool Contract] Combinotron
Yeah I already fixed that On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 6:36 AM Reuben Staley via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 2020-06-12 23:18, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > > 7. Post-Transmutoramas > > After a Transmutorama has been performed, this contract automatically > > transfers 2 corresponding Products to the owner of each card in that > > Transmutorama. > > I believe this would fail because the owner of these assets would be > this contract. Perhaps "the player who transferred the cards to this > contract" or something along those lines? > > -- > Trigon > Speaker and Treasuror of Agora; Former Rulekeepor (12 months) and > Cartographor (8 months) of Agora; Champion of Agora by High Score and > Proposal; Badge of the Salted Earth; Sixth-Longest Continually > Registered Player. > -- >From R. Lee
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Important and Very Cool Contract] Combinotron
hi, future notary here
you have no parties to your contract so you can just amend it
On 6/13/2020 4:08 AM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
I intend to amend that contract by replacing paragraph 7 with
{After a Transmutorama has been performed, the Aggregator SHALL randomly
select two cards in that Transmutorama. After e does, the owners of those
two cards CAN transfer 3 corresponding Products to emselves, and the
owners of the other two cards CAN transfer 2 corresponding products to
emselves.}
Also please join this contract, lol. It's literally just more efficient in
every case than the actual rules-based exchange.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 5:04 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:19 PM Rebecca via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
So here's the thing. If you have 4 cards of one type, you can create 10
Products, at a gold efficiency of 2.5. But with the following contract,
which I create, ANYONE can get a gold efficiency of (on average) 2.5 with
just ONE card, and I'll throw in coins to sweeten the deal, meaning it's
still optimal to use the Combinotron with four cards.
{Title: Combinotron
1. The Aggregator.
The Aggregator is a contract-defined office, to be held originally by R.
Lee. If R. Lee does not perform eir duties under this contract, any other
party may deputise for the Aggregator in the same way they may deputise
for
elected offices under the ruleset.
2. Assets
The Combinotron can hold coins, Cards of any type, and Products of any
type. IMPORTANT: Any player may transfer any number of Cards and coins to
the Combinotron at any time, but Products may only be transferred to it
as
defined later.
3. Reporting
The Aggregator SHALL publish a weekly report detailing all assets held by
the Combinotron, as well as who gave each card the Combinotron holds to
the
Combinotron.
4. Becoming a party
Any player may become a party of the Combinotron. This gives you voting
rights, but you don't have to be a party to give assets or take them from
the Combinotron, although players only gain assets from the Combinotron
in
accordance with its rules.
5. Combination Procedure
Whenever the Combinotron holds 4 or more cards of the same type, the
Aggregator CAN and timely SHALL perform a valid Transmutorama with the
earliest four cards of that type that were transferred to the Combinotron
that the Combinotron still owns
6. Transmutoramas
To perform a Transmutorama is to do the following actions, all in the
same
message. It is INVALID to perform one or more of these actions if all
three
are not performed in the same message
(1): Transfer the 4 cards that are part of the Transmutorama from the
Combinotron to the Aggregator
(2) The Aggregator pays those 4 cards to acquire 10 Products of the
corresponding type
(3): The Aggregator deposits any Products e has acquired from this
Transmutorama back into the Combinitron
7. Post-Transmutoramas
After a Transmutorama has been performed, this contract automatically
transfers 2 corresponding Products to the owner of each card in that
Transmutorama. Then, the Aggregator, within one hour of the
Transmutorama,
SHALL randomly select two cards that were in the Transmutorama. After e
does, this contract automatically transfers 1 corresponding Product to
the
owners of those cards.
Too tired to explain in full, but contracts aren't allowed to do automatic
transfers.
-Aris
DIS: Re: BUS: [Important and Very Cool Contract] Combinotron
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 1:18 AM Rebecca via agora-business
wrote:
>
> So here's the thing. If you have 4 cards of one type, you can create 10
> Products, at a gold efficiency of 2.5. But with the following contract,
> which I create, ANYONE can get a gold efficiency of (on average) 2.5 with
> just ONE card, and I'll throw in coins to sweeten the deal, meaning it's
> still optimal to use the Combinotron with four cards.
>
> {Title: Combinotron
>
> 1. The Aggregator.
> The Aggregator is a contract-defined office, to be held originally by R.
> Lee. If R. Lee does not perform eir duties under this contract, any other
> party may deputise for the Aggregator in the same way they may deputise for
> elected offices under the ruleset.
This doesn't provide means for others being replaced by deputisation
after R. Lee has been replaced.
>
> 2. Assets
> The Combinotron can hold coins, Cards of any type, and Products of any
> type. IMPORTANT: Any player may transfer any number of Cards and coins to
> the Combinotron at any time, but Products may only be transferred to it as
> defined later.
>
> 3. Reporting
> The Aggregator SHALL publish a weekly report detailing all assets held by
> the Combinotron, as well as who gave each card the Combinotron holds to the
> Combinotron.
>
> 4. Becoming a party
> Any player may become a party of the Combinotron. This gives you voting
This doesn't give a method or a CAN.
> rights, but you don't have to be a party to give assets or take them from
> the Combinotron, although players only gain assets from the Combinotron in
> accordance with its rules.
>
> 5. Combination Procedure
> Whenever the Combinotron holds 4 or more cards of the same type, the
> Aggregator CAN and timely SHALL perform a valid Transmutorama with the
> earliest four cards of that type that were transferred to the Combinotron
> that the Combinotron still owns
>
> 6. Transmutoramas
> To perform a Transmutorama is to do the following actions, all in the same
> message. It is INVALID to perform one or more of these actions if all three
> are not performed in the same message
> (1): Transfer the 4 cards that are part of the Transmutorama from the
> Combinotron to the Aggregator
> (2) The Aggregator pays those 4 cards to acquire 10 Products of the
> corresponding type
> (3): The Aggregator deposits any Products e has acquired from this
> Transmutorama back into the Combinitron
>
> 7. Post-Transmutoramas
> After a Transmutorama has been performed, this contract automatically
> transfers 2 corresponding Products to the owner of each card in that
> Transmutorama. Then, the Aggregator, within one hour of the Transmutorama,
> SHALL randomly select two cards that were in the Transmutorama. After e
> does, this contract automatically transfers 1 corresponding Product to the
> owners of those cards.
>
> 8. No scams
> Attempting to perform an invalid Transmutorama is a class 1 million crime.
I don't think contracts can define crimes at any class. My
interpretation has been that a breach of a contract is always a
class-2 crime.
> Not performing the Aggregator's timely duties for the Aggregator is a class
> 2 crime.
>
> 9. Coin Reward
> Any player who receives Products from this contract may also receive one
> coin from this contract by announcement
Missing a CAN
>
> 9. Amendment
> Any player may amend this contract with 3 days notice and the consent of a
> majority of parties to this contract, as well as the consent of the
> Aggregator.}
> --
> From R. Lee
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
DIS: Re: BUS: [Important and Very Cool Contract] Combinotron
I had the same idea and I'm all up for joining this and popping my cards
open but, I just have a bit of an issue with how the randomness is
determined. How is it done?
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 7:19 AM Rebecca via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> So here's the thing. If you have 4 cards of one type, you can create 10
> Products, at a gold efficiency of 2.5. But with the following contract,
> which I create, ANYONE can get a gold efficiency of (on average) 2.5 with
> just ONE card, and I'll throw in coins to sweeten the deal, meaning it's
> still optimal to use the Combinotron with four cards.
>
> {Title: Combinotron
>
> 1. The Aggregator.
> The Aggregator is a contract-defined office, to be held originally by R.
> Lee. If R. Lee does not perform eir duties under this contract, any other
> party may deputise for the Aggregator in the same way they may deputise for
> elected offices under the ruleset.
>
> 2. Assets
> The Combinotron can hold coins, Cards of any type, and Products of any
> type. IMPORTANT: Any player may transfer any number of Cards and coins to
> the Combinotron at any time, but Products may only be transferred to it as
> defined later.
>
> 3. Reporting
> The Aggregator SHALL publish a weekly report detailing all assets held by
> the Combinotron, as well as who gave each card the Combinotron holds to the
> Combinotron.
>
> 4. Becoming a party
> Any player may become a party of the Combinotron. This gives you voting
> rights, but you don't have to be a party to give assets or take them from
> the Combinotron, although players only gain assets from the Combinotron in
> accordance with its rules.
>
> 5. Combination Procedure
> Whenever the Combinotron holds 4 or more cards of the same type, the
> Aggregator CAN and timely SHALL perform a valid Transmutorama with the
> earliest four cards of that type that were transferred to the Combinotron
> that the Combinotron still owns
>
> 6. Transmutoramas
> To perform a Transmutorama is to do the following actions, all in the same
> message. It is INVALID to perform one or more of these actions if all three
> are not performed in the same message
> (1): Transfer the 4 cards that are part of the Transmutorama from the
> Combinotron to the Aggregator
> (2) The Aggregator pays those 4 cards to acquire 10 Products of the
> corresponding type
> (3): The Aggregator deposits any Products e has acquired from this
> Transmutorama back into the Combinitron
>
> 7. Post-Transmutoramas
> After a Transmutorama has been performed, this contract automatically
> transfers 2 corresponding Products to the owner of each card in that
> Transmutorama. Then, the Aggregator, within one hour of the Transmutorama,
> SHALL randomly select two cards that were in the Transmutorama. After e
> does, this contract automatically transfers 1 corresponding Product to the
> owners of those cards.
>
> 8. No scams
> Attempting to perform an invalid Transmutorama is a class 1 million crime.
> Not performing the Aggregator's timely duties for the Aggregator is a class
> 2 crime.
>
> 9. Coin Reward
> Any player who receives Products from this contract may also receive one
> coin from this contract by announcement
>
> 9. Amendment
> Any player may amend this contract with 3 days notice and the consent of a
> majority of parties to this contract, as well as the consent of the
> Aggregator.}
> --
> From R. Lee
>
DIS: Re: BUS: [Important and Very Cool Contract] Combinotron
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:19 PM Rebecca via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> So here's the thing. If you have 4 cards of one type, you can create 10
> Products, at a gold efficiency of 2.5. But with the following contract,
> which I create, ANYONE can get a gold efficiency of (on average) 2.5 with
> just ONE card, and I'll throw in coins to sweeten the deal, meaning it's
> still optimal to use the Combinotron with four cards.
>
> {Title: Combinotron
>
> 1. The Aggregator.
> The Aggregator is a contract-defined office, to be held originally by R.
> Lee. If R. Lee does not perform eir duties under this contract, any other
> party may deputise for the Aggregator in the same way they may deputise for
> elected offices under the ruleset.
>
> 2. Assets
> The Combinotron can hold coins, Cards of any type, and Products of any
> type. IMPORTANT: Any player may transfer any number of Cards and coins to
> the Combinotron at any time, but Products may only be transferred to it as
> defined later.
>
> 3. Reporting
> The Aggregator SHALL publish a weekly report detailing all assets held by
> the Combinotron, as well as who gave each card the Combinotron holds to the
> Combinotron.
>
> 4. Becoming a party
> Any player may become a party of the Combinotron. This gives you voting
> rights, but you don't have to be a party to give assets or take them from
> the Combinotron, although players only gain assets from the Combinotron in
> accordance with its rules.
>
> 5. Combination Procedure
> Whenever the Combinotron holds 4 or more cards of the same type, the
> Aggregator CAN and timely SHALL perform a valid Transmutorama with the
> earliest four cards of that type that were transferred to the Combinotron
> that the Combinotron still owns
>
> 6. Transmutoramas
> To perform a Transmutorama is to do the following actions, all in the same
> message. It is INVALID to perform one or more of these actions if all three
> are not performed in the same message
> (1): Transfer the 4 cards that are part of the Transmutorama from the
> Combinotron to the Aggregator
> (2) The Aggregator pays those 4 cards to acquire 10 Products of the
> corresponding type
> (3): The Aggregator deposits any Products e has acquired from this
> Transmutorama back into the Combinitron
>
> 7. Post-Transmutoramas
> After a Transmutorama has been performed, this contract automatically
> transfers 2 corresponding Products to the owner of each card in that
> Transmutorama. Then, the Aggregator, within one hour of the Transmutorama,
> SHALL randomly select two cards that were in the Transmutorama. After e
> does, this contract automatically transfers 1 corresponding Product to the
> owners of those cards.
Too tired to explain in full, but contracts aren't allowed to do automatic
transfers.
-Aris
>
>
