Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in CFJ 2110

[ais523]

On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 13:37 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
 On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, ais523 wrote:
  I judge CFJ 2110 as follows:
 
  At the time the CFJ was called, its statement was FALSE. Vote validity
  is evaluated instantaneously (see root's gratuitous arguments and CFJs
  1959 and 1960), and at the time the CFJ was called the Agoran Decision
  about the proposal in question was Democratic, therefore the same player
  cannot possibly have more than one valid vote on it. (The statement was
  true earlier, during the voting period for instance, but was false at
  the time the CFJ was called).
 
 Does this mean that the change to democratic can be made after results
 are announced (though before self-ratification)?  -Goethe

I think vote validity counts at the time that the results are announced.
I was interpreting the CFJ statement literally, though, asking whether
the votes were valid instantaneously rather than at the time the
proposal was assessed.
-- 
ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in CFJ 2110

[Geoffrey Spear]

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does this mean that the change to democratic can be made after results
 are announced (though before self-ratification)?  -Goethe

I'd say that once an Agoran Decision is resolved, it's no longer a
decision and can't be changed to Democratic.

In any case, once a proposal takes effect and makes whatever changes
it's making to the gamestate, it's sort of irrelevant if someone later
wants to change the decision on whether to adopt it to be Democratic.

On the other hand, I see nothing in the rules that would prevent
someone from making a decision to adopt a proposal Democratic after
the voting period has ended but before the decision has been resolved.