Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor Elections
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: On Jul 9, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: The candidates for Promotor are omd and Machiavelli. I ENDORSE the current Promotor. Perhaps it would be clearest to say I ENDORSE the person who is Promotor as of the time this vote is cast? It's not clear that the phrase the current Promotor, when evaluated ... at the end of the voting period, refers to the Promotor at the time the vote was cast. —Machiavelli Pretty sure it's evaluated at the end of the voting period, as is intended. Ask omd, I believe he took advantage of that, once. Or was is scshunt? =P ~ Roujo
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor Elections
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: On Jul 9, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: The candidates for Promotor are omd and Machiavelli. I ENDORSE the current Promotor. Perhaps it would be clearest to say I ENDORSE the person who is Promotor as of the time this vote is cast? It's not clear that the phrase the current Promotor, when evaluated ... at the end of the voting period, refers to the Promotor at the time the vote was cast. —Machiavelli Pretty sure it's evaluated at the end of the voting period, as is intended. Ask omd, I believe he took advantage of that, once. Or was is scshunt? =P It's *evaluated* at the end of the voting period, but that could easily mean at the end of the voting period, evaluate who was the 'current promotor' at the time the vote was cast. I would personally read it that way. -G.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor Elections
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: It's *evaluated* at the end of the voting period, but that could easily mean at the end of the voting period, evaluate who was the 'current promotor' at the time the vote was cast. I would personally read it that way. -G. I believe that this is exactly the sort of ambiguity that that rule was intended to resolve. -scshunt
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor Elections
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote: So is I vote for the current promotor a conditional vote, or an instantly resolved reference that's a non-conditional vote? I'd say the former. Sorry, I meant the latter - I think the above is a non-conditional vote.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor Elections
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013, Sean Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: It's *evaluated* at the end of the voting period, but that could easily mean at the end of the voting period, evaluate who was the 'current promotor' at the time the vote was cast. I would personally read it that way. -G. I believe that this is exactly the sort of ambiguity that that rule was intended to resolve. But there's an issue. We use by-reference actions all the time without them being 'conditionals'. So is I vote for the current promotor a conditional vote, or an instantly resolved reference that's a non-conditional vote? I'd say the former. I realize that in this case, endorse makes it conditional, but while the conditional is dependent on how another voter votes, it's not clear if the 'current promotor' is a instantly resolved reference to said other voter, versus being part of the condition. -G.
DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor Elections
On Jul 9, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: The candidates for Promotor are omd and Machiavelli. I ENDORSE the current Promotor. Perhaps it would be clearest to say I ENDORSE the person who is Promotor as of the time this vote is cast? It's not clear that the phrase the current Promotor, when evaluated ... at the end of the voting period, refers to the Promotor at the time the vote was cast. —Machiavelli
