Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3760 assigned to omd

2019-07-24 Thread Kerim Aydin



On 7/24/2019 1:57 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:

On 7/23/2019 11:19 PM, omd wrote:

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:48 AM Kerim Aydin  wrote:

The answer may depend on whether "response to a CoE" is an official duty
(R2143):
    An official duty for an office is any duty that the Rules
    specifically assign to that office's holder in particular
    (regardless of eir identity).


Question: Are you thinking of any particular reason it would depend on
this?  I checked the Rules for clauses mentioning "duty" or "duties"
and I don't see anything relevant.


We've got some precedents (recent-ish) that by common definition a "duty" is
anything a person is REQUIRED to do, so any "the [officer] SHALL" in the
rules is an official duty. (can't remember first context in CFJs I'll see
if I can dig up later).


Oh, but I guess you're right that's not relevant to the discussion - I may
have been misremembering some rules text that didn't exist.



Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3760 assigned to omd

2019-07-24 Thread Kerim Aydin



On 7/23/2019 11:19 PM, omd wrote:

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:48 AM Kerim Aydin  wrote:

The answer may depend on whether "response to a CoE" is an official duty
(R2143):
An official duty for an office is any duty that the Rules
specifically assign to that office's holder in particular
(regardless of eir identity).


Question: Are you thinking of any particular reason it would depend on
this?  I checked the Rules for clauses mentioning "duty" or "duties"
and I don't see anything relevant.


We've got some precedents (recent-ish) that by common definition a "duty" is
anything a person is REQUIRED to do, so any "the [officer] SHALL" in the
rules is an official duty. (can't remember first context in CFJs I'll see
if I can dig up later).

-G.



DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3760 assigned to omd

2019-07-24 Thread omd
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:48 AM Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> > The answer may depend on whether "response to a CoE" is an official duty
> > (R2143):
> >An official duty for an office is any duty that the Rules
> >specifically assign to that office's holder in particular
> >(regardless of eir identity).

Question: Are you thinking of any particular reason it would depend on
this?  I checked the Rules for clauses mentioning "duty" or "duties"
and I don't see anything relevant.