DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy
The difficulty in ALL win conditions, that 2186 specifies one set of conditions for calling something a win announcement, and that other rules say that it has to be a winning announcement with different (not additional) information (a win announcement that Proposal X has been adopted in R2188) is one worth addressing, I'm happy to take an appeals directive to address this. I generally consider it additive, though I think it's more of a gratuitous clarification and wouldn't affect the actual judgement. The first half of Rule 2186's and/or clause allows for win announcements (e.g. This is a win announcement: Murphy is a player) that satisfy Rule 2186's definition, but do not cause any Winning Condition to be satisfied. Proposal: No more ineffective win announcements (AI = 2, please) Amend Rule 2186 (Victory) by replacing this text: A win announcement is a factually correct announcement explicitly labeled as a win announcement and/or clearly stating that one or more persons win the game. with this text: A win announcement is an announcement meeting all of these requirements: a) It is factually correct. b) It is explicitly labeled as a win announcement and/or clearly states that one or more persons (thereby) win the game. c) It causes at least one Winning Condition to be satisfied, as defined by other rules.
Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: c) It causes at least one Winning Condition to be satisfied, as defined by other rules. For it to be a win announcement it must cause a Winning Condition to be satisfied, but the Winning Condition can only be satisfied by a win announcement... Circularity is great.
Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy
On 07/31/2010 11:56 AM, comex wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: c) It causes at least one Winning Condition to be satisfied, as defined by other rules. For it to be a win announcement it must cause a Winning Condition to be satisfied, but the Winning Condition can only be satisfied by a win announcement... Circularity is great. Circularity is easily resolved if you stop thinking of it that way: IF NOT (IF this is a win announcement THEN someone satisfies a winning condition) THEN this is not a win announcement. -coppro
Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: Circularity is easily resolved if you stop thinking of it that way: IF NOT (IF this is a win announcement THEN someone satisfies a winning condition) THEN this is not a win announcement. The proposed rule says causes, not would cause [if it were a win announcement].
