OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-06-11 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is off.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
Whenever a payday occurs, half of each charity's Device holdings
(rounded down) are destroyed, and then each charity gains a number
of boatloads of Devices equal to its donation level.
}}}
[G.'s suggestion.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-06-05 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-official
On 6/5/22 10:09, ais523 via agora-official wrote:
> The Device is off.
>
> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
> device is on:" list:
> {{{
>If POSSIBLE per the following paragraph, end the Device
>immediately.
> }}}
> [My favourite of secretsnail's suggestions.]
>

This is Experiment 39.

I object.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-06-05 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is off.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
   If POSSIBLE per the following paragraph, end the Device
   immediately.
}}}
[My favourite of secretsnail's suggestions.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-05-29 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is off.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
  While Agora's Device is zero, the paragraphs above have no
  effect and are ignored.
}}}
[G.'s suggestion. I'm not sure what to think about this one, but I'll
let the populace support / object to it.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-05-22 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is off.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
   Proposals created since the enactment of this rule have a secured
   untracked Device switch with possible values ordinary (the default)
   and democratic.
}}}
[Going with something of my own this week. This one is mostly intended
as a CFJ generator. Putting it in the "on" section so that we can
switch the Device off in an emergency if it breaks things.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-05-15 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is off.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
   When a Rule specifies that a random Device be made, then the
   Device shall be made using whatever probability distribution among
   the possible outcomes the Rule specifies, defaulting to a uniform
   probability distribution.
}}}
[juan's suggestion.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-05-08 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is off.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
   As this Device is the highest honour that Agora may bestow, a Bearer
   of this Device OUGHT to be treated right good forever.
}}}
[My suggestion. People seemed to like it, and nobody suggested an
alternative.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-04-30 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
  When the rules call for an Agoran Device to be made, the
  Device-making process takes place in the following three
  stages, each described elsewhere:
  
  1. Initiation of the Device.
  
  2. Voting of the people.
  
  3. Resolution of the Device.
}}}
[My suggestion; nobody else suggested an alternative. Making a Device
seems like the sort of thing we should probably only try while it's
off.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-04-23 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
   Upon a correct announcement from a player that one or more players
   have a score of 100+ points, all players meeting this condition
   win the Device.
}}}
[One of secretsnail's suggestions. Sadly, only being able to add
entries to the end of the lists, the other one has no appropriate
context available to place it into.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-04-17 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
Any player CAN grant a Welcome Device to any player if the
grantee has neither received one since e last registered nor in
the last 30 days.
}}}
[G.'s suggestion. Probably broken because the rule that it's based on
is broken, but nothing else seems to work any better. It seems to make
more sense to turn the devices off before handing them out.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-04-10 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
   When a Device wins an election, e is installed into the associated
   office and the election ends.
}}}
[Going with something of my own this week. I can't think of a way that
a Device could win an election yet, but getting the Device to hold an
office seems like an interesting long-term project.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-04-01 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
   The Device CAN conduct an auction (a "victory auction") if no
   victory auction is ongoing.
}}}
[juan's suggestion, because it seems like the safest of this week's
suggestions and because e hadn't made one before.

This definitely does do something (it allows two officers to run
victory auctions rather than one), but there isn't a limit to how often
Victory Auctions can be run other than the inability to run them
concurrently (which would apply between the two officers), so it's
unlikely to break much in practice.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-03-26 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
At any given time, each instance of a Device has exactly one
possible value for that type of Device.
}}}
[My favourite of this week's suggestions – most of them are either
statements that are already true (because the Device is a switch, so
replacing "switch" with "Device" doesn't do much), or potentially
create a large tracking burden, but this one seems to imply the
existence of concepts like "type of Device" and thus may end up
affecting the interpretation of the rest of the rule.]

-- 
ais523



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-03-20 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
Any player CAN refile a Device without objection, specifying a
new title; the Device is retitled to the specified title by
this Device.
}}}
[This is a repeat – the randomizer picked the same rule twice – and
this seems like the better of the two possible sentences to add.
Although the same decision was made last time, and thus the sentence is
there already in the "on" list, we can do something by adding it to the
"off" list too.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-03-11 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
  For the purposes of Devices governing modification of
  instruments, the text, power, ID number, and title of a rule are
  all substantive aspects of the Device.
}}}
[No suggestions this week, unless I missed one, so I'm going with
something of my own. Given that the rule we're stealing text from is
the rule that defines what a rule is, the vast majority of sentences
would be very dangerous to steal, but this one looks fairly safe and
has the potential to induce CFJs.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-03-06 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
 A player CAN once a month grant eir Ministry Focus' Device to a
 specified player by announcement.
}}}
[secretsnail's suggestion. The other one seems too destabilising.

I don't think this does anything yet, but it feels like it may have the
potential to do something in the future.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-02-20 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
  A Device change is any effect that falls into the above classes.
}}}
[My favourite of Trigon's suggestions.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



Re: BUS: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-01-29 Thread ais523 via agora-official
On Sun, 2022-01-30 at 02:24 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> The Device is on. CoE: it may have been destroyed by the passage of
> time. I cite the inquiry case that G. initiated on 19 January 2022 in
> response to that CoE.
> 
> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When
> the device is on:" list:
> {{{
>   The Treasuror CAN conduct an auction (a "Device auction") if no
>   Device auction is ongoing.
> }}}
> [My own suggestion, as nobody else has supplied one this week.]

(I sent the above to the wrong public forum by mistake. It still
counts, but I'm quoting it on the correct list to make it easier for
people to find officer reports.)

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-01-09 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
  The voting Device of an entity on an Agoran decision is an
  integer between 0 and 15 inclusive, defined by rules of power 2
  or greater. 
}}}
[There are few good options this week; this is one that I only just
noticed, and sadly I left it too late in the week to ask for feedback,
so I'm just going for it. It seems like it might potentially do
something, and doesn't run into power problems because it's defining a
new (albeit oddly capitalised) concept. Having a power-1 rule state
that power-2 rules define something, when they don't, also seems like
it might have interesting consequences.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-01-01 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
  The Rulekeepor SHOULD also include any other information which e
  feels may be helpful in the use of the Device in the FLR.
}}}
[I was all set to go with Ørjan's selection – it was very popular and
seemed likely to lead to some interesting CFJs – when I realised it was
illegal; e replaced the word "category" with "Device", but "category"
doesn't appear anywhere in the text to be replaced, which is one of the
requirements of the rule (only "categories" appears, and replacing that
with "Device" leads to some really bad wording). As such, it'd a) cause
me to fail to fulfil my office duties and b) not actually amend the
rule. So I'm going with my, rather more boring, suggestion instead.

We should probably fix rule 2655 to require the replacement of one noun
selected from the selected *rule*, rather than the selected *text*.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-12-26 Thread Trigon via agora-official

El 27/12/2021 a las 00:24, Jason Cobb via agora-official escribió:

On 12/26/21 15:09, ais523 via agora-official wrote:

The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{

   An entity submits a ballot on an Agoran Device by publishing a
   notice satisfying the following conditions:
   
   1. The ballot is submitted during the voting period for the

  Device.
   
   2. The entity casting the ballot (the voter) was, at the

  initiation of the Device, a player.
   
   3. The ballot clearly identifies the matter to be devised.
   
   4. The ballot clearly identifies a valid vote, as determined by

  the voting method.
   
   5. The ballot clearly sets forth the voter's intent to place

  the identified vote.
   
   6. The voter has no other valid ballots on the same Device.

}}}
[I realised just in time that I forgot to do this this week – luckily
I'm still within the deadline. Going with Jason's suggestion. I'd
normally add this sort of thing to the "off" list, but the text
mentions "the initiation of the Device" which probably only makes sense
while the Device is on.]

Incidentally, I believe the "grammatical variations" rule requires me
to replace "decided" with "devised", so I've done so above, but someone
might want to CFJ on that. Just to be on the safe side with respect to
SHALLs, I *also* intend, with Agoran Consent, to do the same thing
except with "decided" rather than "devised".



This is experiment 17.

I support both such intents.



As do I.

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Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-12-26 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-official
On 12/26/21 15:09, ais523 via agora-official wrote:
> The Device is on.
>
> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
> device is on:" list:
> {{{
>>   An entity submits a ballot on an Agoran Device by publishing a
>>   notice satisfying the following conditions:
>>   
>>   1. The ballot is submitted during the voting period for the
>>  Device.
>>   
>>   2. The entity casting the ballot (the voter) was, at the
>>  initiation of the Device, a player.
>>   
>>   3. The ballot clearly identifies the matter to be devised.
>>   
>>   4. The ballot clearly identifies a valid vote, as determined by
>>  the voting method.
>>   
>>   5. The ballot clearly sets forth the voter's intent to place
>>  the identified vote.
>>   
>>   6. The voter has no other valid ballots on the same Device.
> }}}
> [I realised just in time that I forgot to do this this week – luckily
> I'm still within the deadline. Going with Jason's suggestion. I'd
> normally add this sort of thing to the "off" list, but the text
> mentions "the initiation of the Device" which probably only makes sense
> while the Device is on.]
>
> Incidentally, I believe the "grammatical variations" rule requires me
> to replace "decided" with "devised", so I've done so above, but someone
> might want to CFJ on that. Just to be on the safe side with respect to
> SHALLs, I *also* intend, with Agoran Consent, to do the same thing
> except with "decided" rather than "devised".
>

This is experiment 17.

I support both such intents.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-12-26 Thread ais523 via agora-official
On Sun, 2021-12-26 at 20:09 +, ais523 via agora-official wrote:
> The Device is on.
> 
> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
> device is on:" list:
> {{{
> >   An entity submits a ballot on an Agoran Device by publishing a
> >   notice satisfying the following conditions:
> >   
> >   1. The ballot is submitted during the voting period for the
> >  Device.
> >   
> >   2. The entity casting the ballot (the voter) was, at the
> >  initiation of the Device, a player.
> >   
> >   3. The ballot clearly identifies the matter to be devised.
> >   
> >   4. The ballot clearly identifies a valid vote, as determined by
> >  the voting method.
> >   
> >   5. The ballot clearly sets forth the voter's intent to place
> >  the identified vote.
> >   
> >   6. The voter has no other valid ballots on the same Device.
> }}}
> [I realised just in time that I forgot to do this this week – luckily
> I'm still within the deadline. Going with Jason's suggestion. I'd
> normally add this sort of thing to the "off" list, but the text
> mentions "the initiation of the Device" which probably only makes sense
> while the Device is on.]
> 
> Incidentally, I believe the "grammatical variations" rule requires me
> to replace "decided" with "devised", so I've done so above, but someone
> might want to CFJ on that. Just to be on the safe side with respect to
> SHALLs, I *also* intend, with Agoran Consent, to do the same thing
> except with "decided" rather than "devised".

And just in case my formatting mistake above causes problems later: I
intend the same things, but without the email quotation markup between
the {{{ and }}} marks (as arguably that's being quoted too).

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-12-26 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
>   An entity submits a ballot on an Agoran Device by publishing a
>   notice satisfying the following conditions:
>   
>   1. The ballot is submitted during the voting period for the
>  Device.
>   
>   2. The entity casting the ballot (the voter) was, at the
>  initiation of the Device, a player.
>   
>   3. The ballot clearly identifies the matter to be devised.
>   
>   4. The ballot clearly identifies a valid vote, as determined by
>  the voting method.
>   
>   5. The ballot clearly sets forth the voter's intent to place
>  the identified vote.
>   
>   6. The voter has no other valid ballots on the same Device.
}}}
[I realised just in time that I forgot to do this this week – luckily
I'm still within the deadline. Going with Jason's suggestion. I'd
normally add this sort of thing to the "off" list, but the text
mentions "the initiation of the Device" which probably only makes sense
while the Device is on.]

Incidentally, I believe the "grammatical variations" rule requires me
to replace "decided" with "devised", so I've done so above, but someone
might want to CFJ on that. Just to be on the safe side with respect to
SHALLs, I *also* intend, with Agoran Consent, to do the same thing
except with "decided" rather than "devised".

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-12-16 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
  The voting Device is that specified by the authorizing
  authority, or first-past-the-post by default.
}}}
[Nobody suggested anything, even though I'm doing this later in the
weak than normal. So here's me suggesting something of my own.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-12-09 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
  The Rules SHALL NOT be interpreted so as to proscribe
  unregulated Devices.
}}}
[Falsifian's suggestion, my favourite this week.]

-- 
ais523



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-12-02 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
  Each Agoran Device has a voting method, which must be
  AI-majority, instant runoff, or first-past-the-post.
}}}
[Still distracted! This is my favourite of Trigon's suggestions.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-11-25 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
  If a Device CANNOT be reasonably determined (without circularity
  or paradox) from information reasonably available, or if it
  alternates indefinitely between Devices, then the Device is
  considered to be indeterminate, otherwise it is determinate.
}}}
[I think this is the only possibility that might actually do anything.
Sorry for doing this later in the week than I normally do; I've been a
little distracted recently.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-11-17 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
  If a Device has no judge assigned, then any player eligible to  
  judge that Device CAN assign it to emself without 3 objections.
}}}

[This was by far the most popular suggestion. It feels like judging the
Device should be something we do after we turn it off and survey the
wreckage it caused.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-11-04 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is Off.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
  The time window of a Device is W days, where W is the value
  explicitly stated by the Device, or 60 if the Device does not
  explicitly state a value. A Device ceases to exist at the end of
  its time window.
}}}

[G. was right - this one is hard to resist.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-10-27 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is Off.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
   IN CELEBRATION of Alexis being crowned Princess of Agora,
without prejudice to Any before or since
who may come to hold a Title
whether Patent or otherwise;
  IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED that a Royal Parade be established,
imbued in this very Device,
which shall travel around Agora to Devices of import;
  AND THEREFORE, the Rulekeepor SHOULD place this Device
near recently-amended Devices of high Power;
  AND FURTHERMORE, additions to this Parade are most welcome
   when Events suiting the honour should occur.
}}}

[Going with R. Lee's suggestion here - it seems to work as well as any
other, in what is a difficult week. I guess it's up to the Agoran
populace now as to whether we want something like this in the Device or
not.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Scientist



Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-10-23 Thread Trigon via agora-official

El 20/10/2021 a las 20:09, ais523 via agora-official escribió:

The Device is Off.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
When e does so, e fulfills any obligations with regards to that
Device.
}}}

[There weren't any suggestions this week, so I came up with one myself;
I like to get the weekly report in on Wednesday to avoid the need to
overlap two weeks' worth of devising.

For reference, the previous item in that list:
{{{
   Whenever a Player feels that e has been treated so egregiously by
   the Agoran Device that e can no longer abide to be a part of
   it, e may submit a document to the Registrar, clearly labeled a
   Cantus Cygneus, detailing eir grievances and expressing eir
   reproach for those who e feels have treated em so badly.
}}}
It makes sense! Sort of.]



I support.

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OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-10-20 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is Off.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
   When e does so, e fulfills any obligations with regards to that
   Device.
}}}

[There weren't any suggestions this week, so I came up with one myself;
I like to get the weekly report in on Wednesday to avoid the need to
overlap two weeks' worth of devising.

For reference, the previous item in that list:
{{{
  Whenever a Player feels that e has been treated so egregiously by
  the Agoran Device that e can no longer abide to be a part of
  it, e may submit a document to the Registrar, clearly labeled a
  Cantus Cygneus, detailing eir grievances and expressing eir
  reproach for those who e feels have treated em so badly.
}}}
It makes sense! Sort of.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-10-13 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is Off.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
   The Speaker qualifies for a Platinum Device.
}}}

[This week, most of the interesting possibilities struggle with Power
issues (and the suggestion that didn't would have created extra work
for officers for no real benefit). This one is at least harmless at the
moment, and might end up doing something in a future ruleset?]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-10-06 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is On.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
   Any player CAN refile a Device without objection, specifying a new
   title; the Device is retitled to the specified title by this Device.
}}}

[A tough one this week, as evidenced by the relative lack of
suggestions – most combinations are either redundant or obviously
uninteresting. This one looks like it might at least be capable of
doing something, and is unlikely to break things.]

-- 
ais523



Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-09-29 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-official
On 9/29/21 01:05, ais523 via agora-official wrote:
> The Device is On.
>
> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
> device is on:" list:
> {{{
>A Device CAN activate or deactivate emself by announcement.
> }}}
>
> [I think this is my favourite of the suggestions – it could lead to an
> interesting CFJ and doesn't create extra work for people. Adding it to
> the "device on" list because it seems much safer to create a device
> that might be able to turn itself off than it does to create a device
> that might be able to turn itself on.]
>

I support.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-09-28 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is On.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is on:" list:
{{{
   A Device CAN activate or deactivate emself by announcement.
}}}

[I think this is my favourite of the suggestions – it could lead to an
interesting CFJ and doesn't create extra work for people. Adding it to
the "device on" list because it seems much safer to create a device
that might be able to turn itself off than it does to create a device
that might be able to turn itself on.]

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer



Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-09-26 Thread ais523 via agora-official
On Tue, 2021-09-21 at 23:56 +0100, ais523 via agora-official wrote:
> The Device is On.
> 
> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When
> the device is off:" list:
> {{{
>   Whenever a Player feels that e has been treated so egregiously 
>   by the Agoran Device that e can no longer abide to be a part of
>   it, e may submit a document to the Registrar, clearly labeled a
>   Cantus Cygneus, detailing eir grievances and expressing eir
>   reproach for those who e feels have treated em so badly.
> }}}

With support from Jason, Trigon, and ATMunn, and no oppositions, I do
so.

-- 
ais523



OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-09-21 Thread ais523 via agora-official
The Device is On.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
  Whenever a Player feels that e has been treated so egregiously by
  the Agoran Device that e can no longer abide to be a part of
  it, e may submit a document to the Registrar, clearly labeled a
  Cantus Cygneus, detailing eir grievances and expressing eir
  reproach for those who e feels have treated em so badly.
}}}

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer