Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

[r k sarin via Ai]

Agreed but even, if top officers failed to do so, the top activists in our 
field do not show much interest in a general policy. We are rather interested 
in individual cases and if that is case is solved, we feel everything is done.
  - Original Message - 
  From: George Abraham via Ai 
  To: 'Share, empower ' 
  Cc: George Abraham 
  Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 2:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services


  Dear Harish,

   

  The main problem with the banks is that the left hand does not know what the 
right hand is doing. Today if SBI Nehru Place agrees to provide services to 
blind after providing necessary circular, the next day another branch within 
the same city denies facilities.

   

  The problem really lies with the top management. They have not bothered to 
ensure that all public dealing professionals in the bank are aware of the 
rules. Solving individual cases through your meeting will not regularise the 
uniform implementation of rules across the country. Most officials do not 
bother to read circulars specially those pertaining to people with 
disabilities. This fact has to be taken on board. 

   

  From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Kotian, H P via Ai
  Sent: 04 August 2017 12:45
  To: Share, empower 
  Cc: Kotian, H P
  Subject: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

   

  All

   

  I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on the 
above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination done 
to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not the case.

  We want to document and present the facts during the meeting.

   

  If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has 
been denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following information:

   

  1 Name

  2 Bank and Branch

  3 Services requested

  4 Nature of denial

  5 Approximate date of the incident.

  6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank.

  7 Any documentation or email denying the fascility.

   

  Please send by 8th August on my email: hp.kot...@gmail.com

   

  Not on the list please.

   

  Harish Kotian

   

   

   

   


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Re: [Ai] BBC Hindi

[Archana Bha via Ai]

 

Hi ,

 

the mentioned links are not working, it says "File not found" . Let me know
if there is any change in the path.

Regards

Archana

 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Vikas Kapoor via Ai
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:45 AM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Vikas Kapoor
Subject: Re: [Ai] BBC Hindi

 

Started updating from today onwards...

- Original Message - 

From: avinash shahi via Ai   

To: ai   

Cc: avinash   shahi 

Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:13 AM

Subject: [Ai] BBC Hindi

 

Dear BBC Hindi listeners on the list,
Since 14th July 2017, I'm not able to find BBC Hindi morning/evening
audio broadcast. When I'm entering on the links they're just airing
programmes broadcast on 13 July 2017. Please help.


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Re: [Ai] Odisha: Anwesha Ambaly reports: "State govt to employ more disabled people"

[r k sarin via Ai]

Good news if duly implemented and if proper justice is made with persons 
with visual challenge.
- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi via Ai" 
To: "ai" ; "jnuvision" 


Cc: "avinash shahi" 
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 12:19 PM
Subject: [Ai] Odisha: Anwesha Ambaly reports: "State govt to employ more 
disabled people"




Bhubaneswar, Aug. 3: The state government is taking steps to increase
representations of Persons with Disabilities (PwDs) in government
organisations.
https://www.telegraphindia.com/1170804/jsp/odisha/story_165428.jsp
Last year, 16 PwDs had qualified in the Odisha Civil Services examination.

Free pre-recruitment training will be provided to the
differently-abled people for various posts in government sectors,
including banks, railway, insurance and competitive examinations for
other posts.

Secretary of the social security and empowerment of Persons with
Disabilities department Nitin Chandra said: "The PwDs, who are
graduate but unemployed, must apply on the department website to avail
themselves of the three-month free coaching for recruitment
examinations."


Also, a modern career library with grant of Rs 50 lakh will be set up
on the National Career Service Centre for Differently-abled's premises
at Gandamunda. "Both the coaching centre and the library will start
functioning next month," said Chandra.

State commissioner for the PwDs Minati Behera said: "The Rights of PwD
Act, 2016, stipulates at least 4 per cent reservation in government
jobs, 5 per cent in higher education and inclusion of the PwDs in
mainstream through skill development and vocational training
programmes."

She also said the act had severe penal provisions for non-compliance
of the same and commission would keep a close watch on its
implementation. However, activists feel that the number of students
from Odisha qualifying national-level recruitment exams is less
compared to other states. "The representation is quite higher in other
parts of the country, but here it is very low. We have to provide them
with better training opportunities to make sure that they at least get
a chance to perform," said social activist Asit Kumar Behera.

Besides, the state government has directed for the reservation of 5
per cent seats of the PwDs in all the Plus Two and Plus Three colleges
in Odisha to ensure that they had easy access to higher education.

"The directive has been issued to the necessary authorities, and they
have been asked to follow the system strictly," said a higher
education department official.




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Re: [Ai] Shivani Naik reports in the IE today:" Khel Ratna Devendra Jhajharia breaks the glass ceiling"

[r k sarin via Ai]

Good posting. One comment, in case of disability, they see more problems in 
other disabilities rather than their own. But, in majority of the casees, 
people living in bad conditions generally talk about themselves.
- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi via Ai" 
To: "ai" ; "jnuvision" 


Cc: "avinash shahi" 
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 10:56 AM
Subject: [Ai] Shivani Naik reports in the IE today:" Khel Ratna Devendra 
Jhajharia breaks the glass ceiling"




The first step had been the hardest for Devendra Jhajharia — stepping
out of the house soon after his forearm needed to be amputated when he
got electrocuted
as an 8-year-old. On a day when he became India’s first para-athlete
to be conferred the Khel Ratna, the 36-year-old recalled the dread
he’d felt leaving
the house for the first time after the doctor had performed the
procedure. “I was afraid of going in front of people. You can imagine
as an 8-year-old,
all the fears of being taunted — most of which happened. But it’s what
my mother told me that day that’s gotten me the Khel Ratna. Parents
with a child
with disability would’ve gotten protective and said — sit at home and
study hard. My mother told me — start going out and playing a sport,”
he says.
http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/sport-others/devendra-jhajharia-latest-khel-ratna-breaks-the-glass-ceiling-4781401/
It was this reinforcement from the family that gave him the confidence
— the self-assurance with which he declares: “I won a gold medal with
a world record
in 2004 at the Athens Paralympics, and I did it again at Rio. I knew
even back then that I deserved the Khel Ratna. In fact it’s come 12
years late,” he
says, having beaten strong Chinese contenders both times for the top
podium. “China ko haraane ka mazaa kuchh aur hi hai. They are strong
opponents on
the sports field, and strong rivals otherwise,” he says.

While the awarding of India’s highest sporting honour to the javelin
thrower signifies the ultimate mainstreaming of para-sports in
society, making it
a seminal moment for sports — for champs with disability, Jhajharia’s
Khel Ratna is also an apt recognition of his sheer sporting
excellence. Just like
India’s only gold medallist in able-bodied Games Abhinav Bindra sought
the best technical training in Germany, Jhajharia showed the intent to
pursue excellence
by travelling to javelin’s greatest training centre — the Kuortane
Olympic Training centre in Finland.

“Many people doubted whether I’d be able to win gold again after 2004.
I was older and not in my 20s, but I decided to work harder and
trained with the
world’s Top 10 elite athletes. Competing with them I learnt a lot, and
the whole awareness of Paralympics and the reach of social media
ensured that when
I won again with a world record, it was a delightful experience to be
recognised. The Khel Ratna caps it all,” he added.

A naughty child who liked climbing trees, Devendra was not allowed to
think his act of hanging off a tree-trunk had cost him his forearm. “I
was taught
to think differently by my parents and coach. I had to meet
difficulties head-on. If I had different challenges — I had to think
out-of-the-box in my training
and approach too,” he said. This included using dumb-bells instead of
a bench-press to compensate for the missing weight training and
exercises he and
coach RD Singh devised.

“Everyone faces difficulties. Growing up, my idol was Milkha Singh who
didn’t have proper shoes to start with. Then I took inspiration from
Sachin Tendulkar
— who showed determination to play long and win the World Cup. I want
all kids — able-bodied and disabled to remember that if they decide to
win, nothing
can stop them,” he said. Much has changed for para-athletes since 2004
when Jhajharia, a lean unassuming javelin thrower who had started out
in the sport
with a ‘bhala’ he’d carved out himself, clinched gold. He recalls
playing a lot of table tennis with para champs from Argentina and
Kenya, and keeping
those friendships alive. While the national anthem rung out for the
first time at the Games, back home it hastened the Paralympics
Committee of India getting
official recognition in 2006 on the back of a gold and bronze in power
lifting — one of the last acts ensured by then sports minister Sunil
Dutt.

Jhajharia promises to take the disability rights movement further and
a day before the announcement, was busy talking to activists about the
Rajasthan
High Court order. “Even yesterday he was enquiring about details of
the discrimination in government jobs against those with disability,”
said Pradeep
K, a Delhi-based activist. “Even sporting federations think that by
building a ramp they’ve done everything for ensuring accessibility.
But that’s just
the first step. With Devendra’s award, we’re sure he’ll take the
message further.”

Para powerlifting coach Munishwar, who went to 

Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled

[Rahul Bajaj via Ai]

Thank you, Sandeep and Geetha.
Geetha, I completely agree with you that moving out of one's home town is a 
very powerful way of attaining greater independence. Not being constantly under 
an unreasonable parent's watchful eye does give you freedoms that you would 
otherwise not have.
However, even in such a situation, if you want to travel alone to other cities 
for work/leisure and the parent is adamant that you take a family member along, 
is not informing such a parent the only option? And if you are living with 
another parent in the city to which you have moved, that parent will keep the 
other parent informed of everything, so the possibility of not informing also 
gets ruled out.
Needless to say, we are assuming here that the disabled adult has the maturity 
to understand that they will be safe alone.

Best,
RahulSent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 2:46 AM, Geetha Shamanna  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rahul,
> 
> If the parents are being unreasonable or excessively protective of an adult
> offspring, one option is to move away from home on the pretext of studying
> or working in a different city or country. I still think the best way for a
> blind person to experience the trials and tribulations of independent living
> is to live away from home for a certain period of time. There will always be
> an adjustment phase of a few months, during which life could be more
> difficult than imagined, before one establishes oneself and finds solutions.
> This step could be a huge confidence booster. It may not sound like a
> practical option for everyone. However, it is in the nature of some parents
> to be protective, and no amount of convincing will change them. In such
> circumstances, one has to be firm and assertive. Although this attitude may
> cause discord at home in the short run, when the parents eventually see
> their child living an independent life, they will be very proud of having
> let go.
> 
> Geetha
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
> Rahul Bajaj via Ai
> Sent: 04 August 2017 16:46
> To: Share, empower 
> Cc: Rahul Bajaj
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive
> view about the capabilities of the disabled
> 
> Thank you, everyone. Your responses are very insightful and informative.
> 
> Alok, I agree with you that one has to strive to avoid either of those
> extremes. However, all these suggestions operate on the premise that the
> parent in question is reasonable and willing to change their views based on
> changing circumstances. I am afraid that is not always the case. Some
> parents cannot be reasoned with and offer you a choice between not doing
> something and doing it as per their own unreasonable terms. What choice is
> one left with in such cases?
> Further, while the incremental approach works best, that cannot address a
> parent's unfounded fear that something horrible will happen.
> Finally, if a parent is blackmailing a child into not doing something or
> doing it in a very different way from what the child wants without even
> articulating genuine safety concerns that make them wary, what should one
> do?
> 
> Best,
> Rahul 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Alok Kaushik via Ai
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Rahul,
>> You have  brought  up a very relevant subject. Although I always had a
> very understanding family, I  also had  to experience  a  phase  in  which
> the family members had to  be  brought  to a certain comfort level. I never
> faced any restrictions but additional comfort level had to be developed, and
> I can easily observe the change in level of  comfort and confidence they now
> have.
>> 
>> Besides that I have also seen several cases around me, in which similar
> issues as  mentioned  by you were present. Here are my observations and
> thoughts.
>> 
>> I do not think that  any organization or friend will  be able to make a
> decisive impact on the  thinking of  parents / family members just by
> telling them about some of the other people who have been able to do much
> more. It largely depends on how much  drive the visually impaired person
> himself / herself has to  become independent, and how effectively that is
> expressed.
>> 
>> One  of  the main reasons of the parents is the safety concern. One  still
> needs to take a decision to go ahead and do things but  taking some measures
> could help understand the parents that he / she is not reckless about the
> safety. For example, one can  share the taxi number while travelling outside
> at home, it communicates the same message, while being an actual safety
> measure. Letting the family members know when to expect you back home
> realistically would provide them extra comfort. These actions are simply
> related to information sharing and do  not necessarily restricts oneself.
> This goes a long way in  developing a comfort level 

Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

without human entervention, how the application go in software system. we have 
to deal from jandhan account to premium customers. suppose a totally blind 
customer demand a cheque book on the basis of thumb impression, presently, is 
not possible to issue him because both, the issuing authority and passing 
authority don’t sit on the same branch. we have to upload the requisition of 
customer and a name printed chequebook deliver on his address. after 
introduction of CTS system, a branch can not guarantee that a chequebook on 
thumb impression will be passed by the passing officer or not. as the image of 
cheque goes to the passing banker. the order passed by CCPD and IBA regarding 
chequebook on thumb impression is now required to be reviewed as the technology 
and the procedure of presentment and passing of the cheque has now been 
entirely transformed.
also there should be a clearcut notification by the central government that 
person if he is literate,  can not be recognised as an illiterate on the basis 
of thumb impression.
RBI and central government should impose biomatric recognition while 
transacting through banks. this will help most of the blind customers.




From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula via Ai 
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 2:21 PM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Srinivasu Chakravarthula 
Subject: Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

I agree with George. The problem should be solved centrally. One of the ideas 
could be let denial of application be handled by software and not by 
authorities. So if authority clasifies a customer with disability, he/she can 
be denied only if software rejects the application on any grounds than 
disability. Though there is no need to classify customer as a person with 
disability, I'm saying so, because sadly we still have officers who do not know 
D of disability; so when such people reject application, we should just ask - 
upload data to your application and let's see what it would say. So policy gets 
applied into the software itself. 

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/ 
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com 


Let's create an inclusive web!


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On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:00 PM, George Abraham via Ai 
 wrote:

  Dear Harish,



  The main problem with the banks is that the left hand does not know what the 
right hand is doing. Today if SBI Nehru Place agrees to provide services to 
blind after providing necessary circular, the next day another branch within 
the same city denies facilities.



  The problem really lies with the top management. They have not bothered to 
ensure that all public dealing professionals in the bank are aware of the 
rules. Solving individual cases through your meeting will not regularise the 
uniform implementation of rules across the country. Most officials do not 
bother to read circulars specially those pertaining to people with 
disabilities. This fact has to be taken on board. 



  From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Kotian, H P via Ai
  Sent: 04 August 2017 12:45
  To: Share, empower 
  Cc: Kotian, H P
  Subject: [Ai] Denial of Banking services



  All



  I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on the 
above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination done 
to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not the case.

  We want to document and present the facts during the meeting.



  If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has 
been denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following information:



  1 Name

  2 Bank and Branch

  3 Services requested

  4 Nature of denial

  5 Approximate date of the incident.

  6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank.

  7 Any documentation or email denying the fascility.



  Please send by 8th August on my email: hp.kot...@gmail.com



  Not on the list please.



  Harish Kotian










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Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled

[Geetha Shamanna via Ai]

Hi Rahul,

If the parents are being unreasonable or excessively protective of an adult
offspring, one option is to move away from home on the pretext of studying
or working in a different city or country. I still think the best way for a
blind person to experience the trials and tribulations of independent living
is to live away from home for a certain period of time. There will always be
an adjustment phase of a few months, during which life could be more
difficult than imagined, before one establishes oneself and finds solutions.
This step could be a huge confidence booster. It may not sound like a
practical option for everyone. However, it is in the nature of some parents
to be protective, and no amount of convincing will change them. In such
circumstances, one has to be firm and assertive. Although this attitude may
cause discord at home in the short run, when the parents eventually see
their child living an independent life, they will be very proud of having
let go.

Geetha

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Rahul Bajaj via Ai
Sent: 04 August 2017 16:46
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Rahul Bajaj
Subject: Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive
view about the capabilities of the disabled

Thank you, everyone. Your responses are very insightful and informative.

Alok, I agree with you that one has to strive to avoid either of those
extremes. However, all these suggestions operate on the premise that the
parent in question is reasonable and willing to change their views based on
changing circumstances. I am afraid that is not always the case. Some
parents cannot be reasoned with and offer you a choice between not doing
something and doing it as per their own unreasonable terms. What choice is
one left with in such cases?
Further, while the incremental approach works best, that cannot address a
parent's unfounded fear that something horrible will happen.
Finally, if a parent is blackmailing a child into not doing something or
doing it in a very different way from what the child wants without even
articulating genuine safety concerns that make them wary, what should one
do?

Best,
Rahul 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 4, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Alok Kaushik via Ai
 wrote:
> 
> Hi Rahul,
> You have  brought  up a very relevant subject. Although I always had a
very understanding family, I  also had  to experience  a  phase  in  which
the family members had to  be  brought  to a certain comfort level. I never
faced any restrictions but additional comfort level had to be developed, and
I can easily observe the change in level of  comfort and confidence they now
have.
> 
> Besides that I have also seen several cases around me, in which similar
issues as  mentioned  by you were present. Here are my observations and
thoughts.
> 
> I do not think that  any organization or friend will  be able to make a
decisive impact on the  thinking of  parents / family members just by
telling them about some of the other people who have been able to do much
more. It largely depends on how much  drive the visually impaired person
himself / herself has to  become independent, and how effectively that is
expressed.
> 
> One  of  the main reasons of the parents is the safety concern. One  still
needs to take a decision to go ahead and do things but  taking some measures
could help understand the parents that he / she is not reckless about the
safety. For example, one can  share the taxi number while travelling outside
at home, it communicates the same message, while being an actual safety
measure. Letting the family members know when to expect you back home
realistically would provide them extra comfort. These actions are simply
related to information sharing and do  not necessarily restricts oneself.
This goes a long way in  developing a comfort level without creating any
friction in the relationship.
> 
> Besides moving outdoors,  if  there are other things that one is looking
to do but is facing restrictive approach, comfort level can best be created
by generating opportunities to demonstrate that one  would  be  happy doing
such a task  and  can do it. Communicating that he / she would definitely
ask for  help if  needed is  also very effective. There  is  no  better
conviction then actually seeing a person doing something.
> 
> A few  things that we need  to keep in mind is that we ourselves need to
be patient while persisting with the  effort to demonstrate and develop and
confidence  in others. It will  take  some time  and  repeated observations
by others before their  scepticism could change to conviction.
> 
> It is possible that one may have to be more  assertive at times, but it
would be good to balance it out rather quickly to avoid any negative effect
on the relationship. Underlying feeling behind the assertiveness needs to be
that of confidence and not disregard.
> 
> Of course  there would  be two 

Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled

[Sandeep Singh via Ai]

Hi, there is certainly a need to educate parents regarding
capabilities and aspirations of their disabled (esp visually impaired)
children. Have seen many cases where a disabled child (and grown up
person) has achieved a lot and yet their parents are still not
satisfied or confident about their ward's potential. I think there is
a need to increase direct interaction among parents of disabled
children. What if a whatsapp group is created and we join our parents
there. Gradually their interest will increase and they will look
forward to having conversations with each other. For example, most
parents of visually impaired children don't want their children to
marry their own type fearing that they wouldn't be able to live
together. This group will give them many examples of such couples
living together easily and happily.
Best regards

On 8/4/17, Rahul Bajaj via Ai  wrote:
> Thank you, everyone. Your responses are very insightful and informative.
>
> Alok, I agree with you that one has to strive to avoid either of those
> extremes. However, all these suggestions operate on the premise that the
> parent in question is reasonable and willing to change their views based on
> changing circumstances. I am afraid that is not always the case. Some
> parents cannot be reasoned with and offer you a choice between not doing
> something and doing it as per their own unreasonable terms. What choice is
> one left with in such cases?
> Further, while the incremental approach works best, that cannot address a
> parent's unfounded fear that something horrible will happen.
> Finally, if a parent is blackmailing a child into not doing something or
> doing it in a very different way from what the child wants without even
> articulating genuine safety concerns that make them wary, what should one
> do?
>
> Best,
> Rahul
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Alok Kaushik via Ai
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rahul,
>> You have  brought  up a very relevant subject. Although I always had a
>> very understanding family, I  also had  to experience  a  phase  in  which
>> the family members had to  be  brought  to a certain comfort level. I
>> never faced any restrictions but additional comfort level had to be
>> developed, and I can easily observe the change in level of  comfort and
>> confidence they now have.
>>
>> Besides that I have also seen several cases around me, in which similar
>> issues as  mentioned  by you were present. Here are my observations and
>> thoughts.
>>
>> I do not think that  any organization or friend will  be able to make a
>> decisive impact on the  thinking of  parents / family members just by
>> telling them about some of the other people who have been able to do much
>> more. It largely depends on how much  drive the visually impaired person
>> himself / herself has to  become independent, and how effectively that is
>> expressed.
>>
>> One  of  the main reasons of the parents is the safety concern. One  still
>> needs to take a decision to go ahead and do things but  taking some
>> measures could help understand the parents that he / she is not reckless
>> about the safety. For example, one can  share the taxi number while
>> travelling outside at home, it communicates the same message, while being
>> an actual safety measure. Letting the family members know when to expect
>> you back home realistically would provide them extra comfort. These
>> actions are simply related to information sharing and do  not necessarily
>> restricts oneself. This goes a long way in  developing a comfort level
>> without creating any friction in the relationship.
>>
>> Besides moving outdoors,  if  there are other things that one is looking
>> to do but is facing restrictive approach, comfort level can best be
>> created by generating opportunities to demonstrate that one  would  be
>> happy doing such a task  and  can do it. Communicating that he / she would
>> definitely ask for  help if  needed is  also very effective. There  is  no
>>  better conviction then actually seeing a person doing something.
>>
>> A few  things that we need  to keep in mind is that we ourselves need to
>> be patient while persisting with the  effort to demonstrate and develop
>> and  confidence  in others. It will  take  some time  and  repeated
>> observations by others before their  scepticism could change to
>> conviction.
>>
>> It is possible that one may have to be more  assertive at times, but it
>> would be good to balance it out rather quickly to avoid any negative
>> effect on the relationship. Underlying feeling behind the assertiveness
>> needs to be that of confidence and not disregard.
>>
>> Of course  there would  be two extremes, one in which a person chooses  to
>>  enjoy the convenience that a protective environment offers,  which comes
>> back  and bites hard  once that supportive environment collapses or dents,
>> or in other  in which a person 

Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled

[Rahul Bajaj via Ai]

Thank you, everyone. Your responses are very insightful and informative.

Alok, I agree with you that one has to strive to avoid either of those 
extremes. However, all these suggestions operate on the premise that the parent 
in question is reasonable and willing to change their views based on changing 
circumstances. I am afraid that is not always the case. Some parents cannot be 
reasoned with and offer you a choice between not doing something and doing it 
as per their own unreasonable terms. What choice is one left with in such cases?
Further, while the incremental approach works best, that cannot address a 
parent's unfounded fear that something horrible will happen.
Finally, if a parent is blackmailing a child into not doing something or doing 
it in a very different way from what the child wants without even articulating 
genuine safety concerns that make them wary, what should one do?

Best,
Rahul 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 4, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Alok Kaushik via Ai 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rahul,
> You have  brought  up a very relevant subject. Although I always had a very 
> understanding family, I  also had  to experience  a  phase  in  which the 
> family members had to  be  brought  to a certain comfort level. I never faced 
> any restrictions but additional comfort level had to be developed, and I can 
> easily observe the change in level of  comfort and confidence they now have.
> 
> Besides that I have also seen several cases around me, in which similar  
> issues as  mentioned  by you were present. Here are my observations and 
> thoughts.
> 
> I do not think that  any organization or friend will  be able to make a 
> decisive impact on the  thinking of  parents / family members just by telling 
> them about some of the other people who have been able to do much  more. It 
> largely depends on how much  drive the visually impaired person himself / 
> herself has to  become independent, and how effectively that is expressed.
> 
> One  of  the main reasons of the parents is the safety concern. One  still 
> needs to take a decision to go ahead and do things but  taking some measures 
> could help understand the parents that he / she is not reckless about the 
> safety. For example, one can  share the taxi number while travelling outside 
> at home, it communicates the same message, while being an actual safety 
> measure. Letting the family members know when to expect you back home 
> realistically would provide them extra comfort. These actions are simply 
> related to information sharing and do  not necessarily restricts oneself. 
> This goes a long way in  developing a comfort level without creating any 
> friction in the relationship.
> 
> Besides moving outdoors,  if  there are other things that one is looking to 
> do but is facing restrictive approach, comfort level can best be created by 
> generating opportunities to demonstrate that one  would  be  happy doing such 
> a task  and  can do it. Communicating that he / she would definitely ask for  
> help if  needed is  also very effective. There  is  no  better conviction 
> then actually seeing a person doing something.
> 
> A few  things that we need  to keep in mind is that we ourselves need to be 
> patient while persisting with the  effort to demonstrate and develop and  
> confidence  in others. It will  take  some time  and  repeated observations 
> by others before their  scepticism could change to conviction.
> 
> It is possible that one may have to be more  assertive at times, but it would 
> be good to balance it out rather quickly to avoid any negative effect on the 
> relationship. Underlying feeling behind the assertiveness needs to be that of 
> confidence and not disregard.
> 
> Of course  there would  be two extremes, one in which a person chooses  to  
> enjoy the convenience that a protective environment offers,  which comes  
> back  and bites hard  once that supportive environment collapses or dents, or 
> in other  in which a person becomes a rebel, gains the independence and the 
> relationships languishes.
> 
> My thoughts are to bring about a change while sustaining good relationships.
> 
> Thanks.
> Alok
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
> Rahul Bajaj via Ai
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 1:12 PM
> To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
> Cc: Rahul Bajaj
> Subject: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view 
> about the capabilities of the disabled
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> I hope this message finds you well.
> At the outset, let me clarify that this question may or may not have anything 
> to do with my own personal experiences, so I'd appreciate it if the aim of 
> the conversation could be to understand this phenomenon in general terms as 
> opposed to focusing too much on my own situation.
> 
> While a lot of us focus on the importance of sensitizing various 
> stakeholders, 

Re: [Ai] regarding the purchase of an accessible antivirus

[Sunil Sangtani. via Ai]

McAfee Anti Virus Plus
seems to be accessible.
its based on HTML interface so quite manageable with jaws and even NVDA.
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> I propose to purchase an accessible antivirus for windos. Please guide
> me to do the same.
> regards
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[Ai] Daily Eyeway Alerts

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Dear All,
Greetings from the National Eyeway Helpdesk!'
Please, follow below the Daily Eyeway Alerts:

1. News-
8.8 million blind in India in 2015, says study in Lancet
In India, there were 7.2 million blind people in 1990, which rose to
8.8 million in 2015, making the country the home of almost a quarter
of the total 36 million blind people.
As many as 8.8 million people in India were found to be blind in 2015
and another 47.7 million people had moderate and severe vision
impairment, according to a study published online by The Lancet Global
Health journal on August 2. Worldwide, there are an estimated 36
million people who are blind and this is set to grow to almost 115
million people by 2050, with the highest number in developing
countries in Asia and sub-Saharan Africa, according to the study.
Although rates of blindness and vision impairment have gone down in
recent years, the number of cases has risen as the world population
has aged, said professor Rupert Bourne of the Anglia Ruskin University
in the UK who is the lead author of the study. Between 1990 and 2015,
the absolute number of blind people increased by 17.9 per cent.
In India, there were 7.2 million blind people in 1990, which rose to
8.8 million in 2015, making the country the home of almost a quarter
of the total 36 million blind people. The Lancet study was funded by
the Brien Holden Vision Institute and included researchers from Anglia
Ruskin University, University of Oxford, L V Prasad Eye Institute in
India and others. The study also suggested that prevalence rates could
see an upturn by 2020 up to 0.50 per cent rise for blindness and 3.06
per cent for vision impairment.
The areas most affected are developing regions. For example, 11.7
million people who are blind lived in south Asia in 2015. Dr G V S
Murthy, the director of Hyderabad-based Indian Institute of Public
Health and professor at the International Centre for Eye Health,
London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said the number of
people above 50 years had increased by 13 per cent in India and
despite a decline in the prevalence of blindness from 1 per cent to
0.6 per cent in the country, “we still have a large number of blind
people”.
Professor Rohit Khanna, the associate director of the L V Prasad Eye
Institute, said that with most vision impairment being a result of
ageing as the population continues to grow and age, the number of
people affected has increased globally. Other key researchers include
professor Vinay Nangia, the director of the Suraj Eye Institute,
Nagpur, and Dr Ronnie George of the Medical Research Foundation in
Chennai. Source:
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/8-8-million-blind-in-india-in-2015-says-study-in-lancet-4781368/?utm_source=itrendsnow.com
2. 14,500 special children to get supportive aids.
Those diagnosed with autism to be treated at six centres
The Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan (SSA) is planning to complete the
distribution of supportive aids to 14,500 differently-abled
schoolchildren in the district by August.
A.K. Abdul Hakkeem, district programme officer, SSA, said here on
Sunday that hearing-impaired and visually-impaired children were given
special attention this time. “They were broadly categorised into four
groups – fully deaf and partially blind; partially deaf and fully
blind; fully blind; and fully deaf,” he added.
Some of their problems could be cured through corrective surgeries.
“As many as 7,500 students will be distributed spectacles. Those
having hearing problems will be subjected to audiogram tests and will
be given hearing aids,” Mr. Hakkeem said. Source:
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/ssa-support-for-special-children/article19201443.ece
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[Ai] kishor kumar birthday celebration from 9pm...

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dear all
kishor kumar birthday celebration
very very special show tonight on radio udaan from 9PM
Hi listeners, tonight radio udaan celebrating birthday of the great
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Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

[gatak singh via Ai]

some people even deny to give house in rent for visually challenged.

On 8/4/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
 wrote:
> Sir, specially is difficult to provide information on point no.6 and 7. in
> genral practice, public service official don’t disclose there names and
> don’t give any written refusal.
> and george sir, this left right combination applies to all the government
> and public sectors, even private sectors. we can not blame bankers only.
> we can take example from railway counters. also denial of admision in
> schools and colleges.
>
>
> From: Kotian, H P via Ai
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 12:45 PM
> To: Share, empower 
> Cc: Kotian, H P
> Subject: [Ai] Denial of Banking services
>
> All
>
>
>
> I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on the
> above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination
> done to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not the
> case.
>
> We want to document and present the facts during the meeting.
>
>
>
> If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has
> been denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following information:
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>
>
> 1 Name
>
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>
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>
> 4 Nature of denial
>
> 5 Approximate date of the incident.
>
> 6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank.
>
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>
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>
> Please send by 8th August on my email: hp.kot...@gmail.com
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Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

Sir, specially is difficult to provide information on point no.6 and 7. in 
genral practice, public service official don’t disclose there names and don’t 
give any written refusal.
and george sir, this left right combination applies to all the government and 
public sectors, even private sectors. we can not blame bankers only.
we can take example from railway counters. also denial of admision in schools 
and colleges.


From: Kotian, H P via Ai 
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 12:45 PM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Kotian, H P 
Subject: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

All

 

I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on the 
above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination done 
to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not the case.

We want to document and present the facts during the meeting.

 

If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has been 
denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following information:

 

1 Name

2 Bank and Branch

3 Services requested

4 Nature of denial

5 Approximate date of the incident.

6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank.

7 Any documentation or email denying the fascility.

 

Please send by 8th August on my email: hp.kot...@gmail.com

 

Not on the list please.

 

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Re: [Ai] accessible help for booking OLA cab/Auto

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sure. I will also help you to book the uber cab. before that, the
difference between ola prime, micro and etc is that the number of
people who can sit in the car. I dont know exactly but I know about
uber. so will explain here.
how to book uber?
1. download the uber app from the play store. for your convenience, I
am providing the direct link here.
Check out "Uber"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubercab
2. register to uber by giving your phone number, name, Email ID and continue.
3. enter the OTP sent by uber. sometimes, OTP is automatically taken.
5. you are ready to go!
6. find the option where to. enter your destination there.
7. pickup location is automatically taken by your location, but if you
want to change that, there is one option just above the where to. that
item is not labelled as pickup location. your screen reader will just
announce the pickup location which is taken automatically. just click
on that, enter your location, you can find the results at the upper
part of the screen, as it happens with ola as well. just click on your
location.
8. now you can see the estimated price of all the cabs just above the
list of cabs displayed. listen to that carefully, because the price of
each cab is not displayed in a seperate lines. everything is jumbled
up in one single line.
9. select the cab that you want to book. there will be 3 options.
uberPool, uberGo and uberX. uber pool is like ola share. uber go is
single cab, where 4 people can sit. uber X is little big car,
convenient to take luggages.
10. select the cab that you want. the cab which is selected is
announced as selected by your screen reader.
11. choose the payment method. here you can select cash, paytm, debit
card or credit card. to pay with debit card or credit card, you must
have linked it with your uber account. if you want to pay through
paytm, that should also be linked with your uber account and also you
must have minimum of RS. 350 in your paytm wallet.
12. click on next or continue..
13. if you have booked a pool, it will ask you to confirm the number
of seats. you can choose one seat or two seats. choose the number of
seats and click confirm seat. if you have booked uberGo or uberX,
there is no option to choose the seats.
14. again it will ask for the confirmation of the pickup location. it
will show some nearby places. just click on your location again, and
click confirm booking.
15. your cab is booked!
16. you can call your driver to make sure. you can also check the
status of your driver..

there are some differences between ola and uber. some of them are:
1. ola has perfectly labelled the options as pickup and drop location,
whereas uber has labelled it as where to and no label for the pickup
location.
2. ola sends you a confirmation message to your mobile with the name
of the driver, phone number of the driver, car name and number, and
OTP as well. whereas in uber, it does not send a confirmation message
to your mobile. and also there is no OTP system in uber.
3. you can check the estimated time of the pickup and after boarding
the cab, you can check at what time you will reach your destinationin
uber. whereas in ola, you can't check these things because that is not
accessible with talk back. however, a sighted person can see it in ola
as well.
hope it helps. pardon me for the gramatical mistakes, spelling
mistakes or the sentence formation.

On 8/4/17, MAMATA via Ai  wrote:
> Can you help about how to get the fairs for ola and uber as well.
>
> And steps to book with uber. I have followed the steps given for ola.
>
> In the ola case how do I know what would be my aprox fair. That is before
> booking confirmations?
>
> Any difference fair for ola auto and mini/prime etc.
>
> Kindly let me know.
>
> How to get the uber app? Its not available on play store.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Please do help.
>
> Mamta.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
> gatak singh via Ai
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 2:02 PM
> To: Share, empower 
> Cc: gatak singh; Saravanan
> Subject: Re: [Ai] accessible help for booking OLA cab/Auto
>
> I use ola and uber very often. if you compare with accessibility, uber
> is better than ola. but auto service is not available on uber.
> however, both of them are not fully accessible, but partly accessible.
> you can manage booking easily. follow these steps to book ola.
> 1. open the ola app, it will ask you to turn on the location. click
> yes. your device location will be on.
> 2. enter the pickup and drop location. those are properly labelled.
> 3. select the type of ride that you want to take. for example, auto,
> ola share, prime, micro, etc.
> note: your screen reader will not respond when you double tap on those
> option, but it will get selected.
> 4. find the ride now option at the bottom of your screen.
> 5. select the payment method. like cash, ola money, debit card.
> note: in order 

Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled

[Alok Kaushik via Ai]

Hi Rahul,
You have  brought  up a very relevant subject. Although I always had a very 
understanding family, I  also had  to experience  a  phase  in  which the 
family members had to  be  brought  to a certain comfort level. I never faced 
any restrictions but additional comfort level had to be developed, and I can 
easily observe the change in level of  comfort and confidence they now have.

Besides that I have also seen several cases around me, in which similar  issues 
as  mentioned  by you were present. Here are my observations and thoughts.

I do not think that  any organization or friend will  be able to make a 
decisive impact on the  thinking of  parents / family members just by telling 
them about some of the other people who have been able to do much  more. It 
largely depends on how much  drive the visually impaired person himself / 
herself has to  become independent, and how effectively that is expressed.

One  of  the main reasons of the parents is the safety concern. One  still 
needs to take a decision to go ahead and do things but  taking some measures 
could help understand the parents that he / she is not reckless about the 
safety. For example, one can  share the taxi number while travelling outside at 
home, it communicates the same message, while being an actual safety measure. 
Letting the family members know when to expect you back home realistically 
would provide them extra comfort. These actions are simply related to 
information sharing and do  not necessarily restricts oneself. This goes a long 
way in  developing a comfort level without creating any friction in the 
relationship.

Besides moving outdoors,  if  there are other things that one is looking to do 
but is facing restrictive approach, comfort level can best be created by 
generating opportunities to demonstrate that one  would  be  happy doing such a 
task  and  can do it. Communicating that he / she would definitely ask for  
help if  needed is  also very effective. There  is  no  better conviction then 
actually seeing a person doing something.

A few  things that we need  to keep in mind is that we ourselves need to be 
patient while persisting with the  effort to demonstrate and develop and  
confidence  in others. It will  take  some time  and  repeated observations by 
others before their  scepticism could change to conviction.

It is possible that one may have to be more  assertive at times, but it would 
be good to balance it out rather quickly to avoid any negative effect on the 
relationship. Underlying feeling behind the assertiveness needs to be that of 
confidence and not disregard.

Of course  there would  be two extremes, one in which a person chooses  to  
enjoy the convenience that a protective environment offers,  which comes  back  
and bites hard  once that supportive environment collapses or dents, or in 
other  in which a person becomes a rebel, gains the independence and the 
relationships languishes.

My thoughts are to bring about a change while sustaining good relationships.

Thanks.
Alok

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Rahul 
Bajaj via Ai
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 1:12 PM
To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
Cc: Rahul Bajaj
Subject: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view 
about the capabilities of the disabled

Hi Everyone,

I hope this message finds you well.
At the outset, let me clarify that this question may or may not have anything 
to do with my own personal experiences, so I'd appreciate it if the aim of the 
conversation could be to understand this phenomenon in general terms as opposed 
to focusing too much on my own situation.

While a lot of us focus on the importance of sensitizing various stakeholders, 
such as employers, academic institutions and others about the capabilities of 
the disabled, few focus on the discrimination that the disabled face in their 
own homes due to the view that their own family has about their capabilities or 
potential.
More specifically, if one has a parent who is unwilling to learn from the 
experiences of other blind people and give their disabled child the freedom 
that we all deserve, to what extent should one follow what such a parent says?
Further, while safety is doubtless important, if the disabled person has the 
requisite maturity to ascertain if they will be safe in a given environment, 
should they act as per their own assessment or follow what their parent is 
saying, in the fear of alienating them?
I think there are many emotional forces at play in a family setting that may 
not be involved in other settings. For instance, one often hears of parents 
emotionally blackmailing their children into acting the way they want without 
recognizing that this may not be in the child's best interest.
Finally, what makes the situation worse is the fact that the external world 
[friends and wellwishers] is also often apprehensive to interfere 

Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

[Kotian, H P via Ai]

Hi Srini

Surely, I will share this suggestion. However, when I look into the cases that 
have come to me, the problem is even before the application is onboarded in the 
system. The official orally dismisses even before the application is taken and 
this smart fellow would even quote RBI in his defense.

Harish.

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Srinivasu Chakravarthula via Ai
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 2:22 PM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Srinivasu Chakravarthula 
Subject: Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

I agree with George. The problem should be solved centrally. One of the ideas 
could be let denial of application be handled by software and not by 
authorities. So if authority clasifies a customer with disability, he/she can 
be denied only if software rejects the application on any grounds than 
disability. Though there is no need to classify customer as a person with 
disability, I'm saying so, because sadly we still have officers who do not know 
D of disability; so when such people reject application, we should just ask - 
upload data to your application and let's see what it would say. So policy gets 
applied into the software itself.

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica


On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:00 PM, George Abraham via Ai 
> 
wrote:
Dear Harish,

The main problem with the banks is that the left hand does not know what the 
right hand is doing. Today if SBI Nehru Place agrees to provide services to 
blind after providing necessary circular, the next day another branch within 
the same city denies facilities.

The problem really lies with the top management. They have not bothered to 
ensure that all public dealing professionals in the bank are aware of the 
rules. Solving individual cases through your meeting will not regularise the 
uniform implementation of rules across the country. Most officials do not 
bother to read circulars specially those pertaining to people with 
disabilities. This fact has to be taken on board.

From: Ai 
[mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in]
 On Behalf Of Kotian, H P via Ai
Sent: 04 August 2017 12:45
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Kotian, H P
Subject: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

All

I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on the 
above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination done 
to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not the case.
We want to document and present the facts during the meeting.

If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has been 
denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following information:

1 Name
2 Bank and Branch
3 Services requested
4 Nature of denial
5 Approximate date of the incident.
6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank.
7 Any documentation or email denying the fascility.

Please send by 8th August on my email: 
hp.kot...@gmail.com

Not on the list please.

Harish Kotian






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Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled

[Kotian, H P via Ai]

Hi Rahul

This may not work in all situations, however, a slow and steady approach 
generally works.
You can take up 1 milestones at a time. The greater success that you can bring 
about will increase the comfort level in your parents mind and you also need to 
assert at times.

You may sometimes take up something in which you provide little info and tell 
them in detail once being successful. However, you need to be very careful that 
you don't do anything rash and it would jeopodise future ventures.

You need not always be the best kid in town.
 
Harish.

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Rahul 
Bajaj via Ai
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:12 PM
To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
Cc: Rahul Bajaj 
Subject: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view 
about the capabilities of the disabled

Hi Everyone,

I hope this message finds you well.
At the outset, let me clarify that this question may or may not have anything 
to do with my own personal experiences, so I'd appreciate it if the aim of the 
conversation could be to understand this phenomenon in general terms as opposed 
to focusing too much on my own situation.

While a lot of us focus on the importance of sensitizing various stakeholders, 
such as employers, academic institutions and others about the capabilities of 
the disabled, few focus on the discrimination that the disabled face in their 
own homes due to the view that their own family has about their capabilities or 
potential.
More specifically, if one has a parent who is unwilling to learn from the 
experiences of other blind people and give their disabled child the freedom 
that we all deserve, to what extent should one follow what such a parent says?
Further, while safety is doubtless important, if the disabled person has the 
requisite maturity to ascertain if they will be safe in a given environment, 
should they act as per their own assessment or follow what their parent is 
saying, in the fear of alienating them?
I think there are many emotional forces at play in a family setting that may 
not be involved in other settings. For instance, one often hears of parents 
emotionally blackmailing their children into acting the way they want without 
recognizing that this may not be in the child's best interest.
Finally, what makes the situation worse is the fact that the external world 
[friends and wellwishers] is also often apprehensive to interfere in these 
matters on behalf of the disabled person on the ground that this is an internal 
family matter, so that makes it significantly harder for the disabled person to 
fully assert himself/herself.

If any of you have dealt with the above, I'd be curious to know what you think 
about these issues.
I am mindful of the fact that not many people would be open to discussing this 
on a public forum, so please feel free to mail me off-list about this. Further, 
not many may see this as a problem, given how  accustomed they are to 
succumbing to their parents' wishes, no matter how uninformed and inappropriate 
those wishes may be.

Best,
Rahul
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Re: [Ai] accessible help for booking OLA cab/Auto

[MAMATA via Ai]

Can you help about how to get the fairs for ola and uber as well.

And steps to book with uber. I have followed the steps given for ola.

In the ola case how do I know what would be my aprox fair. That is before
booking confirmations?

Any difference fair for ola auto and mini/prime etc.

Kindly let me know.

How to get the uber app? Its not available on play store.

Thanks.

Please do help.

Mamta.

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From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
gatak singh via Ai
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 2:02 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: gatak singh; Saravanan
Subject: Re: [Ai] accessible help for booking OLA cab/Auto

I use ola and uber very often. if you compare with accessibility, uber
is better than ola. but auto service is not available on uber.
however, both of them are not fully accessible, but partly accessible.
you can manage booking easily. follow these steps to book ola.
1. open the ola app, it will ask you to turn on the location. click
yes. your device location will be on.
2. enter the pickup and drop location. those are properly labelled.
3. select the type of ride that you want to take. for example, auto,
ola share, prime, micro, etc.
note: your screen reader will not respond when you double tap on those
option, but it will get selected.
4. find the ride now option at the bottom of your screen.
5. select the payment method. like cash, ola money, debit card.
note: in order to pay with ola money, you will have to load money into
your ola money wallet. to pay with debit card, you must link your card
with your ola account.
6. click on the confirm booking button. you will ready to go!
7.you will get a confirmation message from ola, in which the car
number, driver name and number will be given. you can also call the
driver and talk to him.
8. an OTP will be also provided to you in that message. you will have
to give that OTP to your driver when you board the cab.
hope it helps. I have written these steps assuming you are using the
android app.
I am not using IOS so unable to help on that. let me know if you need
any help in booking uber cab.
thanks.


On 8/1/17, Saravanan via Ai  wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> How much OLA app for android is accessible to VI persons.
> Can somebody provide me the information of booking OLA Cab/Auto by a VI
> person using OLA app for android.
> Is there any other accessible app for android for booking cab/Auto other
> than OLA app that make it easier for VI persons.
>
> Thanks
> Saravanan.K
> +91 9916512402
>
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Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

[Srinivasu Chakravarthula via Ai]

I agree with George. The problem should be solved centrally. One of the
ideas could be let denial of application be handled by software and not by
authorities. So if authority clasifies a customer with disability, he/she
can be denied only if software rejects the application on any grounds than
disability. Though there is no need to classify customer as a person with
disability, I'm saying so, because sadly we still have officers who do not
know D of disability; so when such people reject application, we should
just ask - upload data to your application and let's see what it would say.
So policy gets applied into the software itself.

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica


On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:00 PM, George Abraham via Ai <
ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

> Dear Harish,
>
>
>
> The main problem with the banks is that the left hand does not know what
> the right hand is doing. Today if SBI Nehru Place agrees to provide
> services to blind after providing necessary circular, the next day another
> branch within the same city denies facilities.
>
>
>
> The problem really lies with the top management. They have not bothered to
> ensure that all public dealing professionals in the bank are aware of the
> rules. Solving individual cases through your meeting will not regularise
> the uniform implementation of rules across the country. Most officials do
> not bother to read circulars specially those pertaining to people with
> disabilities. This fact has to be taken on board.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] *On Behalf
> Of *Kotian, H P via Ai
> *Sent:* 04 August 2017 12:45
> *To:* Share, empower 
> *Cc:* Kotian, H P
> *Subject:* [Ai] Denial of Banking services
>
>
>
> All
>
>
>
> I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on the
> above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination
> done to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not the
> case.
>
> We want to document and present the facts during the meeting.
>
>
>
> If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has
> been denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following information:
>
>
>
> 1 Name
>
> 2 Bank and Branch
>
> 3 Services requested
>
> 4 Nature of denial
>
> 5 Approximate date of the incident.
>
> 6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank.
>
> 7 Any documentation or email denying the fascility.
>
>
>
> Please send by 8th August on my email: hp.kot...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> Not on the list please.
>
>
>
> Harish Kotian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

[Kotian, H P via Ai]

Dear George

It is precisely, we are seeking inputs so that we can confront them with 
specific cases than deal generally speaking.

If you have got complaints on this subject in your helpdesk, pl send it across.

We want to address on the higher level officials, more is needed to be done and 
mere issue of circular will not help.

Someone need to hold the bull by its horn and tame it .

Harish.

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham via Ai
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 2:01 PM
To: 'Share, empower ' 
Cc: George Abraham 
Subject: Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

Dear Harish,

The main problem with the banks is that the left hand does not know what the 
right hand is doing. Today if SBI Nehru Place agrees to provide services to 
blind after providing necessary circular, the next day another branch within 
the same city denies facilities.

The problem really lies with the top management. They have not bothered to 
ensure that all public dealing professionals in the bank are aware of the 
rules. Solving individual cases through your meeting will not regularise the 
uniform implementation of rules across the country. Most officials do not 
bother to read circulars specially those pertaining to people with 
disabilities. This fact has to be taken on board.

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Kotian, H P via Ai
Sent: 04 August 2017 12:45
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Kotian, H P
Subject: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

All

I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on the 
above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination done 
to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not the case.
We want to document and present the facts during the meeting.

If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has been 
denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following information:

1 Name
2 Bank and Branch
3 Services requested
4 Nature of denial
5 Approximate date of the incident.
6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank.
7 Any documentation or email denying the fascility.

Please send by 8th August on my email: 
hp.kot...@gmail.com

Not on the list please.

Harish Kotian






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Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

[George Abraham via Ai]

Dear Harish,
 
The main problem with the banks is that the left hand does not know what
the right hand is doing. Today if SBI Nehru Place agrees to provide
services to blind after providing necessary circular, the next day another
branch within the same city denies facilities.
 
The problem really lies with the top management. They have not bothered to
ensure that all public dealing professionals in the bank are aware of the
rules. Solving individual cases through your meeting will not regularise
the uniform implementation of rules across the country. Most officials do
not bother to read circulars specially those pertaining to people with
disabilities. This fact has to be taken on board. 
 
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Kotian, H P via Ai
Sent: 04 August 2017 12:45
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Kotian, H P
Subject: [Ai] Denial of Banking services
 
All
 
I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on the
above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination
done to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not the
case.
We want to document and present the facts during the meeting.
 
If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has
been denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following information:
 
1 Name
2 Bank and Branch
3 Services requested
4 Nature of denial
5 Approximate date of the incident.
6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank.
7 Any documentation or email denying the fascility.
 
Please send by 8th August on my email: hp.kot...@gmail.com
 
Not on the list please.
 
Harish Kotian
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Ai] Shivani Naik reports in the IE today:" Khel Ratna Devendra Jhajharia breaks the glass ceiling"

[Asudani, Rajesh via Ai]

great.


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi via Ai
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 10:57 AM
To: ai; jnuvision
Cc: avinash shahi
Subject: [Ai] Shivani Naik reports in the IE today:" Khel Ratna Devendra 
Jhajharia breaks the glass ceiling"

The first step had been the hardest for Devendra Jhajharia — stepping
out of the house soon after his forearm needed to be amputated when he
got electrocuted
as an 8-year-old. On a day when he became India’s first para-athlete
to be conferred the Khel Ratna, the 36-year-old recalled the dread
he’d felt leaving
the house for the first time after the doctor had performed the
procedure. “I was afraid of going in front of people. You can imagine
as an 8-year-old,
all the fears of being taunted — most of which happened. But it’s what
my mother told me that day that’s gotten me the Khel Ratna. Parents
with a child
with disability would’ve gotten protective and said — sit at home and
study hard. My mother told me — start going out and playing a sport,”
he says.
http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/sport-others/devendra-jhajharia-latest-khel-ratna-breaks-the-glass-ceiling-4781401/
It was this reinforcement from the family that gave him the confidence
— the self-assurance with which he declares: “I won a gold medal with
a world record
in 2004 at the Athens Paralympics, and I did it again at Rio. I knew
even back then that I deserved the Khel Ratna. In fact it’s come 12
years late,” he
says, having beaten strong Chinese contenders both times for the top
podium. “China ko haraane ka mazaa kuchh aur hi hai. They are strong
opponents on
the sports field, and strong rivals otherwise,” he says.

While the awarding of India’s highest sporting honour to the javelin
thrower signifies the ultimate mainstreaming of para-sports in
society, making it
a seminal moment for sports — for champs with disability, Jhajharia’s
Khel Ratna is also an apt recognition of his sheer sporting
excellence. Just like
India’s only gold medallist in able-bodied Games Abhinav Bindra sought
the best technical training in Germany, Jhajharia showed the intent to
pursue excellence
by travelling to javelin’s greatest training centre — the Kuortane
Olympic Training centre in Finland.

“Many people doubted whether I’d be able to win gold again after 2004.
I was older and not in my 20s, but I decided to work harder and
trained with the
world’s Top 10 elite athletes. Competing with them I learnt a lot, and
the whole awareness of Paralympics and the reach of social media
ensured that when
I won again with a world record, it was a delightful experience to be
recognised. The Khel Ratna caps it all,” he added.

A naughty child who liked climbing trees, Devendra was not allowed to
think his act of hanging off a tree-trunk had cost him his forearm. “I
was taught
to think differently by my parents and coach. I had to meet
difficulties head-on. If I had different challenges — I had to think
out-of-the-box in my training
and approach too,” he said. This included using dumb-bells instead of
a bench-press to compensate for the missing weight training and
exercises he and
coach RD Singh devised.

“Everyone faces difficulties. Growing up, my idol was Milkha Singh who
didn’t have proper shoes to start with. Then I took inspiration from
Sachin Tendulkar
— who showed determination to play long and win the World Cup. I want
all kids — able-bodied and disabled to remember that if they decide to
win, nothing
can stop them,” he said. Much has changed for para-athletes since 2004
when Jhajharia, a lean unassuming javelin thrower who had started out
in the sport
with a ‘bhala’ he’d carved out himself, clinched gold. He recalls
playing a lot of table tennis with para champs from Argentina and
Kenya, and keeping
those friendships alive. While the national anthem rung out for the
first time at the Games, back home it hastened the Paralympics
Committee of India getting
official recognition in 2006 on the back of a gold and bronze in power
lifting — one of the last acts ensured by then sports minister Sunil
Dutt.

Jhajharia promises to take the disability rights movement further and
a day before the announcement, was busy talking to activists about the
Rajasthan
High Court order. “Even yesterday he was enquiring about details of
the discrimination in government jobs against those with disability,”
said Pradeep
K, a Delhi-based activist. “Even sporting federations think that by
building a ramp they’ve done everything for ensuring accessibility.
But that’s just
the first step. With Devendra’s award, we’re sure he’ll take the
message further.”

Para powerlifting coach Munishwar, who went to Athens with Jhajharia,
recalls a time when persons with disability couldn’t even say they had
“rights” in
the 1980s, and would often go to MLAs and MPs or take loans to travel
to international meets. “A lot has changed since then, but not
Devendra’s humility,”
he recalls. “Jhajharia 

[Ai] Denial of Banking services

[Kotian, H P via Ai]

All

I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on the 
above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination done 
to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not the case.
We want to document and present the facts during the meeting.

If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has been 
denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following information:

1 Name
2 Bank and Branch
3 Services requested
4 Nature of denial
5 Approximate date of the incident.
6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank.
7 Any documentation or email denying the fascility.

Please send by 8th August on my email: 
hp.kot...@gmail.com

Not on the list please.

Harish Kotian





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[Ai] Odisha: Anwesha Ambaly reports: "State govt to employ more disabled people"

[avinash shahi via Ai]

Bhubaneswar, Aug. 3: The state government is taking steps to increase
representations of Persons with Disabilities (PwDs) in government
organisations.
https://www.telegraphindia.com/1170804/jsp/odisha/story_165428.jsp
Last year, 16 PwDs had qualified in the Odisha Civil Services examination.

Free pre-recruitment training will be provided to the
differently-abled people for various posts in government sectors,
including banks, railway, insurance and competitive examinations for
other posts.

Secretary of the social security and empowerment of Persons with
Disabilities department Nitin Chandra said: "The PwDs, who are
graduate but unemployed, must apply on the department website to avail
themselves of the three-month free coaching for recruitment
examinations."


Also, a modern career library with grant of Rs 50 lakh will be set up
on the National Career Service Centre for Differently-abled's premises
at Gandamunda. "Both the coaching centre and the library will start
functioning next month," said Chandra.

State commissioner for the PwDs Minati Behera said: "The Rights of PwD
Act, 2016, stipulates at least 4 per cent reservation in government
jobs, 5 per cent in higher education and inclusion of the PwDs in
mainstream through skill development and vocational training
programmes."

She also said the act had severe penal provisions for non-compliance
of the same and commission would keep a close watch on its
implementation. However, activists feel that the number of students
from Odisha qualifying national-level recruitment exams is less
compared to other states. "The representation is quite higher in other
parts of the country, but here it is very low. We have to provide them
with better training opportunities to make sure that they at least get
a chance to perform," said social activist Asit Kumar Behera.

Besides, the state government has directed for the reservation of 5
per cent seats of the PwDs in all the Plus Two and Plus Three colleges
in Odisha to ensure that they had easy access to higher education.

"The directive has been issued to the necessary authorities, and they
have been asked to follow the system strictly," said a higher
education department official.




-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
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