Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder

2018-08-07 Thread Hamit Campos

Also if you listen on something that's good quality.


On 8/7/2018 1:30 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
But can you hear the diference?
/A


6 aug. 2018 kl. 14:42 skrev Dane Trethowan :

Yep Blu-Ray goes up to 192K but that’s different from the DVD 5.1 channels 
you’re talking about as most are sampled from analogue 48K.
I’ll say it again just to make things clear and avoid confusion.
Nothing wrong with 48K but it isn’t a high sampling rate if you want to make 
top quality recordings.
Why Apple chose to cut things at 48K? Well only they know.
So therefore I wouldn’t bother doing any studio mastering or recording live 
bands with an iPhone as you could do better with other devices.
As has been pointed out, voice recordings will be perfectly fine and do sound 
very good through the built-in microphone as well as external microphones.
So then we come back to the next question of cost.
Now I don’t know how much an external microphone for an iPhone costs these days 
but I do remember purchasing my Blue Yeti which I’ve used with my iPhone and 
I’ve used with my Android devices along with Windows, PC’s, Mac etc.
The Blue Yetti cost me nearly $300 which could easily buy me a dedicated 
recorder with better quality audio.
So once again, do your research and buy what’s right for you.



On 6 Aug 2018, at 10:34 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Yeah you boath are right. I mean I like going to 96 or hell why not full 192 
KHz if 1 can. But that's cause I'm a geek. But as I said with the Eltrenix 48 
KHz is your typical 7.1 Blu-Ray movie. Not sure what Dolby Atmos disks are at, 
but could be 48 too. It's the 5.1 blu rays like The Passion of the Christ and 
maybe the first few Harry Potter disks that go all the way up to 96.


On 8/6/2018 7:07 AM, tim cumings wrote:

dane, I think for most recording situations. A sampling rate of 48 kHz with the 
bit rate of 24K bps is fine.

On Aug 6, 2018, at 2:05 AM, André van Deventer  
wrote:

But how can you turn off that proc3essing I wonder?

André

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Trethowan
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 2:17 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder

That all said an iPhone still lacks the high bit and sampling rates that a 
dedicated recorder or even an Android phone can offer.
Last I checked the iPhone could only record up to 48KHZ, enough for voice 
perhaps.
Regarding the microphone of the iPhone not being of high quality? Well friends 
I have to disagree with that statement somewhat, if you can turn off all the 
processing on the iPhone behind the microphone then the internal microphone of 
the iPhone indeed does a very fair job c considering what it is.
Obviously external microphones can be of higher quality still.


-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of tim cumings
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 9:48 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder

you can use your iPhone as a high-quality recorder.
I would recommend the app called recorder HQ. In terms of microphones, I would 
look at microphones like the scheur MV 88 and some of the road microphones that 
have lightning connectors.

On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:35 AM, André van Deventer  
wrote:

Hi all



Something I have been wondering about for some time now.  Is it
possible to use the iphone as a high quality audio recorder?  Not with
the internal microphone of which which is of inferior sound quality
but by connecting an external microphone?  Is there iny kind of app
available which you can use to for example to set the recording
quality?  I am not interested in video at all.



Regards

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Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder

2018-08-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
Between say 48 and 96K? Yes there is an audible difference for sure.
You probably won’t hear that unless you’re really listening with the volume at 
a reasonable level - not too loud of course I did say reasonable -.


> On 8 Aug 2018, at 3:30 am, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> But can you hear the diference?
> /A
> 
>> 6 aug. 2018 kl. 14:42 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>> 
>> Yep Blu-Ray goes up to 192K but that’s different from the DVD 5.1 channels 
>> you’re talking about as most are sampled from analogue 48K.
>> I’ll say it again just to make things clear and avoid confusion.
>> Nothing wrong with 48K but it isn’t a high sampling rate if you want to make 
>> top quality recordings.
>> Why Apple chose to cut things at 48K? Well only they know.
>> So therefore I wouldn’t bother doing any studio mastering or recording live 
>> bands with an iPhone as you could do better with other devices.
>> As has been pointed out, voice recordings will be perfectly fine and do 
>> sound very good through the built-in microphone as well as external 
>> microphones.
>> So then we come back to the next question of cost.
>> Now I don’t know how much an external microphone for an iPhone costs these 
>> days but I do remember purchasing my Blue Yeti which I’ve used with my 
>> iPhone and I’ve used with my Android devices along with Windows, PC’s, Mac 
>> etc.
>> The Blue Yetti cost me nearly $300 which could easily buy me a dedicated 
>> recorder with better quality audio.
>> So once again, do your research and buy what’s right for you.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6 Aug 2018, at 10:34 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah you boath are right. I mean I like going to 96 or hell why not full 
>>> 192 KHz if 1 can. But that's cause I'm a geek. But as I said with the 
>>> Eltrenix 48 KHz is your typical 7.1 Blu-Ray movie. Not sure what Dolby 
>>> Atmos disks are at, but could be 48 too. It's the 5.1 blu rays like The 
>>> Passion of the Christ and maybe the first few Harry Potter disks that go 
>>> all the way up to 96.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/6/2018 7:07 AM, tim cumings wrote:
 dane, I think for most recording situations. A sampling rate of 48 kHz 
 with the bit rate of 24K bps is fine.
> On Aug 6, 2018, at 2:05 AM, André van Deventer 
>  wrote:
> 
> But how can you turn off that proc3essing I wonder?
> 
> André
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 2:17 AM
> To: all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder
> 
> That all said an iPhone still lacks the high bit and sampling rates that 
> a dedicated recorder or even an Android phone can offer.
> Last I checked the iPhone could only record up to 48KHZ, enough for voice 
> perhaps.
> Regarding the microphone of the iPhone not being of high quality? Well 
> friends I have to disagree with that statement somewhat, if you can turn 
> off all the processing on the iPhone behind the microphone then the 
> internal microphone of the iPhone indeed does a very fair job c 
> considering what it is.
> Obviously external microphones can be of higher quality still.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of tim cumings
> Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 9:48 AM
> To: all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder
> 
> you can use your iPhone as a high-quality recorder.
> I would recommend the app called recorder HQ. In terms of microphones, I 
> would look at microphones like the scheur MV 88 and some of the road 
> microphones that have lightning connectors.
>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:35 AM, André van Deventer 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Something I have been wondering about for some time now.  Is it
>> possible to use the iphone as a high quality audio recorder?  Not with
>> the internal microphone of which which is of inferior sound quality
>> but by connecting an external microphone?  Is there iny kind of app
>> available which you can use to for example to set the recording
>> quality?  I am not interested in video at all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> André
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder

2018-08-07 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
But can you hear the diference?
/A

> 6 aug. 2018 kl. 14:42 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> 
> Yep Blu-Ray goes up to 192K but that’s different from the DVD 5.1 channels 
> you’re talking about as most are sampled from analogue 48K.
> I’ll say it again just to make things clear and avoid confusion.
> Nothing wrong with 48K but it isn’t a high sampling rate if you want to make 
> top quality recordings.
> Why Apple chose to cut things at 48K? Well only they know.
> So therefore I wouldn’t bother doing any studio mastering or recording live 
> bands with an iPhone as you could do better with other devices.
> As has been pointed out, voice recordings will be perfectly fine and do sound 
> very good through the built-in microphone as well as external microphones.
> So then we come back to the next question of cost.
> Now I don’t know how much an external microphone for an iPhone costs these 
> days but I do remember purchasing my Blue Yeti which I’ve used with my iPhone 
> and I’ve used with my Android devices along with Windows, PC’s, Mac etc.
> The Blue Yetti cost me nearly $300 which could easily buy me a dedicated 
> recorder with better quality audio.
> So once again, do your research and buy what’s right for you.
> 
> 
>> On 6 Aug 2018, at 10:34 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah you boath are right. I mean I like going to 96 or hell why not full 192 
>> KHz if 1 can. But that's cause I'm a geek. But as I said with the Eltrenix 
>> 48 KHz is your typical 7.1 Blu-Ray movie. Not sure what Dolby Atmos disks 
>> are at, but could be 48 too. It's the 5.1 blu rays like The Passion of the 
>> Christ and maybe the first few Harry Potter disks that go all the way up to 
>> 96.
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/6/2018 7:07 AM, tim cumings wrote:
>>> dane, I think for most recording situations. A sampling rate of 48 kHz with 
>>> the bit rate of 24K bps is fine.
 On Aug 6, 2018, at 2:05 AM, André van Deventer 
  wrote:
 
 But how can you turn off that proc3essing I wonder?
 
 André
 
 -Original Message-
 From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dane 
 Trethowan
 Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 2:17 AM
 To: all-audio@groups.io
 Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder
 
 That all said an iPhone still lacks the high bit and sampling rates that a 
 dedicated recorder or even an Android phone can offer.
 Last I checked the iPhone could only record up to 48KHZ, enough for voice 
 perhaps.
 Regarding the microphone of the iPhone not being of high quality? Well 
 friends I have to disagree with that statement somewhat, if you can turn 
 off all the processing on the iPhone behind the microphone then the 
 internal microphone of the iPhone indeed does a very fair job c 
 considering what it is.
 Obviously external microphones can be of higher quality still.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of tim cumings
 Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 9:48 AM
 To: all-audio@groups.io
 Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder
 
 you can use your iPhone as a high-quality recorder.
 I would recommend the app called recorder HQ. In terms of microphones, I 
 would look at microphones like the scheur MV 88 and some of the road 
 microphones that have lightning connectors.
> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:35 AM, André van Deventer 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> 
> 
> Something I have been wondering about for some time now.  Is it
> possible to use the iphone as a high quality audio recorder?  Not with
> the internal microphone of which which is of inferior sound quality
> but by connecting an external microphone?  Is there iny kind of app
> available which you can use to for example to set the recording
> quality?  I am not interested in video at all.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> André
> 
> 
> 
> 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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> halfwits in this world behind.
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Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder

2018-08-07 Thread goshawk on horseback
with all due respect, but saying that, "most do" is not really that helpful, 
as there is still a fair chance of getting one that doesn't, as there is 
often no way of telling.
would a Steinberg UR22 work with android for example?

Simon


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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder


Can’t see why it wouldn’t work with Android, most interfaces do.


> On 7 Aug 2018, at 10:18 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>
> Supposedly the IRig Pro Duo would work with Android. Cause it comes with 
> the Micro USB thing. But No one ever Demos it with Android.
>
>
> On 8/7/2018 6:40 AM, goshawk on horseback wrote:
>> trouble is that there don't seem to be any really good audio interface 
>> units
>> for android phones, like one can get the apogee duet for the iPhone.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 1:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder
>>
>>
>> That all said an iPhone still lacks the high bit and sampling rates that 
>> a
>> dedicated recorder or even an Android phone can offer.
>> Last I checked the iPhone could only record up to 48KHZ, enough for voice
>> perhaps.
>> Regarding the microphone of the iPhone not being of high quality? Well
>> friends I have to disagree with that statement somewhat, if you can turn 
>> off
>> all the processing on the iPhone behind the microphone then the internal
>> microphone of the iPhone indeed does a very fair job c considering what 
>> it
>> is.
>> Obviously external microphones can be of higher quality still.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of tim cumings
>> Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 9:48 AM
>> To: all-audio@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder
>>
>> you can use your iPhone as a high-quality recorder.
>> I would recommend the app called recorder HQ. In terms of microphones, I
>> would look at microphones like the scheur MV 88 and some of the road
>> microphones that have lightning connectors.
>>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:35 AM, André van Deventer
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Something I have been wondering about for some time now.  Is it
>>> possible to use the iphone as a high quality audio recorder?  Not with
>>> the internal microphone of which which is of inferior sound quality
>>> but by connecting an external microphone?  Is there iny kind of app
>>> available which you can use to for example to set the recording
>>> quality?  I am not interested in video at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> André
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder

2018-08-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
Can’t see why it wouldn’t work with Android, most interfaces do.


> On 7 Aug 2018, at 10:18 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Supposedly the IRig Pro Duo would work with Android. Cause it comes with the 
> Micro USB thing. But No one ever Demos it with Android.
> 
> 
> On 8/7/2018 6:40 AM, goshawk on horseback wrote:
>> trouble is that there don't seem to be any really good audio interface units
>> for android phones, like one can get the apogee duet for the iPhone.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 1:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder
>> 
>> 
>> That all said an iPhone still lacks the high bit and sampling rates that a
>> dedicated recorder or even an Android phone can offer.
>> Last I checked the iPhone could only record up to 48KHZ, enough for voice
>> perhaps.
>> Regarding the microphone of the iPhone not being of high quality? Well
>> friends I have to disagree with that statement somewhat, if you can turn off
>> all the processing on the iPhone behind the microphone then the internal
>> microphone of the iPhone indeed does a very fair job c considering what it
>> is.
>> Obviously external microphones can be of higher quality still.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of tim cumings
>> Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 9:48 AM
>> To: all-audio@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder
>> 
>> you can use your iPhone as a high-quality recorder.
>> I would recommend the app called recorder HQ. In terms of microphones, I
>> would look at microphones like the scheur MV 88 and some of the road
>> microphones that have lightning connectors.
>>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:35 AM, André van Deventer
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Something I have been wondering about for some time now.  Is it
>>> possible to use the iphone as a high quality audio recorder?  Not with
>>> the internal microphone of which which is of inferior sound quality
>>> but by connecting an external microphone?  Is there iny kind of app
>>> available which you can use to for example to set the recording
>>> quality?  I am not interested in video at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> André
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder

2018-08-07 Thread Hamit Campos
Supposedly the IRig Pro Duo would work with Android. Cause it comes with 
the Micro USB thing. But No one ever Demos it with Android.



On 8/7/2018 6:40 AM, goshawk on horseback wrote:

trouble is that there don't seem to be any really good audio interface units
for android phones, like one can get the apogee duet for the iPhone.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder


That all said an iPhone still lacks the high bit and sampling rates that a
dedicated recorder or even an Android phone can offer.
Last I checked the iPhone could only record up to 48KHZ, enough for voice
perhaps.
Regarding the microphone of the iPhone not being of high quality? Well
friends I have to disagree with that statement somewhat, if you can turn off
all the processing on the iPhone behind the microphone then the internal
microphone of the iPhone indeed does a very fair job c considering what it
is.
Obviously external microphones can be of higher quality still.


-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of tim cumings
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 9:48 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder

you can use your iPhone as a high-quality recorder.
I would recommend the app called recorder HQ. In terms of microphones, I
would look at microphones like the scheur MV 88 and some of the road
microphones that have lightning connectors.

On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:35 AM, André van Deventer
 wrote:

Hi all



Something I have been wondering about for some time now.  Is it
possible to use the iphone as a high quality audio recorder?  Not with
the internal microphone of which which is of inferior sound quality
but by connecting an external microphone?  Is there iny kind of app
available which you can use to for example to set the recording
quality?  I am not interested in video at all.



Regards

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Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder

2018-08-07 Thread goshawk on horseback
trouble is that there don't seem to be any really good audio interface units 
for android phones, like one can get the apogee duet for the iPhone.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder


That all said an iPhone still lacks the high bit and sampling rates that a 
dedicated recorder or even an Android phone can offer.
Last I checked the iPhone could only record up to 48KHZ, enough for voice 
perhaps.
Regarding the microphone of the iPhone not being of high quality? Well 
friends I have to disagree with that statement somewhat, if you can turn off 
all the processing on the iPhone behind the microphone then the internal 
microphone of the iPhone indeed does a very fair job c considering what it 
is.
Obviously external microphones can be of higher quality still.


-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of tim cumings
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2018 9:48 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] using my iphone as a high quality recorder

you can use your iPhone as a high-quality recorder.
I would recommend the app called recorder HQ. In terms of microphones, I 
would look at microphones like the scheur MV 88 and some of the road 
microphones that have lightning connectors.
> On Aug 5, 2018, at 4:35 AM, André van Deventer 
>  wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
> Something I have been wondering about for some time now.  Is it
> possible to use the iphone as a high quality audio recorder?  Not with
> the internal microphone of which which is of inferior sound quality
> but by connecting an external microphone?  Is there iny kind of app
> available which you can use to for example to set the recording
> quality?  I am not interested in video at all.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> André
>
>
>
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