Re: [all-audio] The beta 58
Sorry, I need to correct what I said. If you have Perkins EQ on your board such as exists on Soundcraft and Mackie Onix systems the associated frequency setting is at 10 o'clock. This corresponds to a about 220 Hz not 415 hz. Frank -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of frank cuta Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 4:29 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] The beta 58 No it's a well recognized kind of muddiness that seems to be associated with the characteristic of the beta when used in the female's higher range. For instance when I do Robbin and Linda Williams they specifically request the beta 58 . but other women with higher voices ask me to dig out the older version of the 58. And you can really hear the difference in a live show just try it. Frank -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 5:59 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Zoom F8N Notes Ah what happens? Like why do you have to clean them? Too bright or something? On 1/9/2019 3:06 AM, frank cuta wrote: > I use beta 58s for vocals at our monthly concerts but I find that for some > female voices they need to be cleaned up a bit by taking out about 6 dB at > 450 Hz. Not sure why but the old non beta 58 does not seem to have this > problem. > > Frank > > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit > Campos > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 9:58 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Zoom F8N Notes > > > Ah cool. Ah another mic I'd be curious to hear which Neal did demo with > the H6 is the AT-4021. Since it's 2 AT-4021s that make up my AT-8022 > stereo mic. Which by the way is the sucessor to the AT-822. Which is > another mic I love to hear Neal demo. As for his dinamics I kinda like > the Beta 58A. > > On 1/8/2019 12:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Yes I'll use the capsule from the H6 first and then I'll probably end up > getting the Capsule extension lead, haven't made up my mind as to what > microphones I'll be using yet. >> >>> On 9 Jan 2019, at 1:34 am, Hamit Campos wrote: >>> >>> Pure epicness dude. I'm mad jealous dude. can't wait to hear it. So, are > you gonna use the snap off peaces from the H6 then? Or do you have > condencers? Man I'd love to hear the Rode NT1-A into this thing. That's my > favorite of Neal's mics. I'd love a pare of NT1-A's >>> On 1/8/2019 3:38 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I received my Zoom F8N today and yes I'll probably need a bit of help to > get the machine going but after that I don't think I'll have too many > problems. >>>> Firstly level adjustments it seems are controlled by analogue dials, one > dial for each track. >>>> These dials have pointers so you know what position they're adjusted > too, halfway is completely vertical. >>>> The track selection keys are marked by a series of small dots each. >>>> Turning the recorder on and off is different from all Zoom recorders > I've had in the past and is achieved by means of a small button in the > bottom right on the control panel which is rather cramped and contains quite > a few buttons, dials and knobs so if you have big fingers this may take a > little getting used to. >>>> The sight of the F8N was somewhat of shock and is unlike all other Zoom > recorders I've seen. >>>> The F8N is in a complete metal housing and reminds me of a small car > radio in shape similar to the one's I used to mount in car dashboards when I > was working at Hillman Spares all those years ago. >>>> The design is straight forward, the front panel being taken up by the > display on the left and the control panel on the right. >>>> On each side are the various XLR/TRS inputs, outputs, USB socket and SD > card slots. >>>> On. The back are 2 BMC sockets and the Zoom Capsule connector along with > a DC input for the supplied power adapter and battery door screw. >>>> The Battery door opens on the bottom of the recorder for the insertion > of 8 AA batteries for portable use. >>>> The F8N sits proudly on a desk or a table curtesy of the 4 square rubber > feet in each corner. >>>> So that's as far as I've managed to get at this stage and I'll write > more as I progress. >>>> >>>> >>>> ** >>>> "And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in sp
Re: [all-audio] The beta 58
Ah I would. I don't have those mics though. The only mic I have is my Audio-Technica 8022. It's a stereo mic. It has 2 modded AT-4021 capsels in it. On 1/11/2019 7:28 PM, frank cuta wrote: No it's a well recognized kind of muddiness that seems to be associated with the characteristic of the beta when used in the female's higher range. For instance when I do Robbin and Linda Williams they specifically request the beta 58 . but other women with higher voices ask me to dig out the older version of the 58. And you can really hear the difference in a live show just try it. Frank -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 5:59 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Zoom F8N Notes Ah what happens? Like why do you have to clean them? Too bright or something? On 1/9/2019 3:06 AM, frank cuta wrote: I use beta 58s for vocals at our monthly concerts but I find that for some female voices they need to be cleaned up a bit by taking out about 6 dB at 450 Hz. Not sure why but the old non beta 58 does not seem to have this problem. Frank -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 9:58 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Zoom F8N Notes Ah cool. Ah another mic I'd be curious to hear which Neal did demo with the H6 is the AT-4021. Since it's 2 AT-4021s that make up my AT-8022 stereo mic. Which by the way is the sucessor to the AT-822. Which is another mic I love to hear Neal demo. As for his dinamics I kinda like the Beta 58A. On 1/8/2019 12:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Yes I'll use the capsule from the H6 first and then I'll probably end up getting the Capsule extension lead, haven't made up my mind as to what microphones I'll be using yet. On 9 Jan 2019, at 1:34 am, Hamit Campos wrote: Pure epicness dude. I'm mad jealous dude. can't wait to hear it. So, are you gonna use the snap off peaces from the H6 then? Or do you have condencers? Man I'd love to hear the Rode NT1-A into this thing. That's my favorite of Neal's mics. I'd love a pare of NT1-A's On 1/8/2019 3:38 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hi, I received my Zoom F8N today and yes I'll probably need a bit of help to get the machine going but after that I don't think I'll have too many problems. Firstly level adjustments it seems are controlled by analogue dials, one dial for each track. These dials have pointers so you know what position they're adjusted too, halfway is completely vertical. The track selection keys are marked by a series of small dots each. Turning the recorder on and off is different from all Zoom recorders I've had in the past and is achieved by means of a small button in the bottom right on the control panel which is rather cramped and contains quite a few buttons, dials and knobs so if you have big fingers this may take a little getting used to. The sight of the F8N was somewhat of shock and is unlike all other Zoom recorders I've seen. The F8N is in a complete metal housing and reminds me of a small car radio in shape similar to the one's I used to mount in car dashboards when I was working at Hillman Spares all those years ago. The design is straight forward, the front panel being taken up by the display on the left and the control panel on the right. On each side are the various XLR/TRS inputs, outputs, USB socket and SD card slots. On. The back are 2 BMC sockets and the Zoom Capsule connector along with a DC input for the supplied power adapter and battery door screw. The Battery door opens on the bottom of the recorder for the insertion of 8 AA batteries for portable use. The F8N sits proudly on a desk or a table curtesy of the 4 square rubber feet in each corner. So that's as far as I've managed to get at this stage and I'll write more as I progress. ** "And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space cause there's bugger-all down here on earth" ** - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4855 / Virus Database: 4793/15883 - Release Date: 08/14/18 Internal Virus Database is out of date. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4855 / Virus Database: 4793/15883 - Release Date: 08/14/18 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1760): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1760 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29022742/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
[all-audio] The beta 58
No it's a well recognized kind of muddiness that seems to be associated with the characteristic of the beta when used in the female's higher range. For instance when I do Robbin and Linda Williams they specifically request the beta 58 . but other women with higher voices ask me to dig out the older version of the 58. And you can really hear the difference in a live show just try it. Frank -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 5:59 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Zoom F8N Notes Ah what happens? Like why do you have to clean them? Too bright or something? On 1/9/2019 3:06 AM, frank cuta wrote: > I use beta 58s for vocals at our monthly concerts but I find that for some > female voices they need to be cleaned up a bit by taking out about 6 dB at > 450 Hz. Not sure why but the old non beta 58 does not seem to have this > problem. > > Frank > > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit > Campos > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 9:58 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Zoom F8N Notes > > > Ah cool. Ah another mic I'd be curious to hear which Neal did demo with > the H6 is the AT-4021. Since it's 2 AT-4021s that make up my AT-8022 > stereo mic. Which by the way is the sucessor to the AT-822. Which is > another mic I love to hear Neal demo. As for his dinamics I kinda like > the Beta 58A. > > On 1/8/2019 12:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Yes I'll use the capsule from the H6 first and then I'll probably end up > getting the Capsule extension lead, haven't made up my mind as to what > microphones I'll be using yet. >> >>> On 9 Jan 2019, at 1:34 am, Hamit Campos wrote: >>> >>> Pure epicness dude. I'm mad jealous dude. can't wait to hear it. So, are > you gonna use the snap off peaces from the H6 then? Or do you have > condencers? Man I'd love to hear the Rode NT1-A into this thing. That's my > favorite of Neal's mics. I'd love a pare of NT1-A's >>> On 1/8/2019 3:38 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hi, I received my Zoom F8N today and yes I'll probably need a bit of help to > get the machine going but after that I don't think I'll have too many > problems. Firstly level adjustments it seems are controlled by analogue dials, one > dial for each track. These dials have pointers so you know what position they're adjusted > too, halfway is completely vertical. The track selection keys are marked by a series of small dots each. Turning the recorder on and off is different from all Zoom recorders > I've had in the past and is achieved by means of a small button in the > bottom right on the control panel which is rather cramped and contains quite > a few buttons, dials and knobs so if you have big fingers this may take a > little getting used to. The sight of the F8N was somewhat of shock and is unlike all other Zoom > recorders I've seen. The F8N is in a complete metal housing and reminds me of a small car > radio in shape similar to the one's I used to mount in car dashboards when I > was working at Hillman Spares all those years ago. The design is straight forward, the front panel being taken up by the > display on the left and the control panel on the right. On each side are the various XLR/TRS inputs, outputs, USB socket and SD > card slots. On. The back are 2 BMC sockets and the Zoom Capsule connector along with > a DC input for the supplied power adapter and battery door screw. The Battery door opens on the bottom of the recorder for the insertion > of 8 AA batteries for portable use. The F8N sits proudly on a desk or a table curtesy of the 4 square rubber > feet in each corner. So that's as far as I've managed to get at this stage and I'll write > more as I progress. ** "And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space cause > there's bugger-all down here on earth" ** >>> >>> >> >> > > > > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4855 / Virus Database: 4793/15883 - Release Date: 08/14/18 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > > > > - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4855 / Virus Database: 4793/15883 - Release Date: 08/14/18 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1759): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/1759 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/29022742/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
