[l10n-issues] [Issue 58592] Urdu OpenType Unicode font s not rendering correctly
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=58592 --- Additional comments from mrei...@openoffice.org Fri May 22 23:09:26 + 2009 --- hdu, I'm seeing the same thing with rendering Hebrew on OOo 3.1.0/OS X. It looks to me like OpenType isn't being used at all, particularly no 'ccmp' GSUB or 'mark' GPOS tables. I'm glad to help as I can. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@l10n.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@l10n.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[l10n-issues] [Issue 58592] Urdu OpenType Unicode font s not rendering correctly
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=58592 User mreimer changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'es,hdu,sba' |'es,hdu,mreimer,sba' - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@l10n.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@l10n.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement of Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 29 22:48:01 + 2008 --- pueyo: There are indeed free/opensource fonts with GPOS tables--in fact, the best fonts are free: SBL Hebrew and Ezra SIL. At one point SBL Hebrew was the only OpenType font that could properly render every combination of nikud in the Hebrew Bible. Cardo also has GPOS tables for Hebrew. All are free for non-commercial use. Ezra SIL is available under the Open Font License. Check these out: http://www.sbl-site.org/educational/BiblicalFonts_SBLHebrew.aspx http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiid=EzraSIL_Home http://scholarsfonts.net/cardofnt.html It's likely there are others. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement of Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 28 19:06:26 + 2008 --- nadavkav: Have you tried using a font SBL Hebrew? Nikud/diacritics only get placed properly for TrueType/OpenType fonts that have GPOS tables specifying nikud placement. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement of Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Apr 17 18:53:33 + 2007 --- I tested with OpenType fonts on SRC680_m197 on FreeBSD and 2.2 on OS X, and it looks fine. hdu, thanks for all your work on this over the years! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement o f Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 20 10:23:10 -0700 2006 --- The *only* way to have truly correct placement of nikud/vowel points/diacritics is to use an OpenType font, which is what OOo currently does. The old OOo used to use a heuristic method of positioning nikud/vowel points/diacritics by guesswork, which is prone to breakage. I think it does not work with multiple marks on a single consonant, for instance. The problem is that non-OpenType fonts only have glyphs for nikud, but no positioning information--this is why non-OpenType fonts are inadequate for proper Hebrew nikud support. The best that can be done with these fonts is to guess, which is at best completely inadequate for serious Hebrew word processing and publishing, and at worst completely broken for more complex rendering such as multiple marks on a consonant. To satisfy both needs (proper rendering on the one hand, and better rendering with non-OpenType fonts on the other hand), ICU could be patched to use the old heuristic method if the font used for rendering does not have OpenType tables (particularly the 'mark' and 'kern' GPOS tables). For someone who knows ICU, this would probably involve just a couple of lines in the right place to query the font for the existence of these GPOS tables. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement o f Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 31 10:20:27 -0800 2005 --- I don't think the MS fonts have the 'mark' GPOS tables. And as far as I can tell, all the fonts are Postscript fonts (not OpenType), except for the alpha font Frank Ruehl OT. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement o f Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 31 11:37:28 -0800 2005 --- Probably the best is SBL Hebrew, available at http://www.sbl-site.org/Resources/default.aspx. Also, make sure you start by rendering a known-good document, to make sure the characters are in the correct order; i.e., generally the vowels are typed *after* the consonant. The SBL Hebrew documentation has a lot of information about Hebrew Unicode issues. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement o f Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 31 15:44:01 -0800 2005 --- fqs7432: Have you tried loading the test document Genesis 1.sxw? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement o f Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 31 22:50:52 -0800 2005 --- fqs7432: The SBL fonts you mention are not the ones you want; you want the font named SBL Hebrew available at http://www.sbl-site.org/Fonts/SBLHebrew-Distributionv1.11.zip. FWIW, Ezra SIL works fine for me here. Note that there is another SIL font named (I think) SIL Ezra that is *not* OpenType. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement o f Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Oct 30 16:01:52 -0700 2005 --- I would guess that what's going on is that you have no OpenType Hebrew fonts that have the built-in smarts (GPOS 'mark' tables, IIRC) to position vowel marks etc. Have you tried the test document with a real Hebrew font like SIL Hebrew, Cardo, or Ezra SIL? I think was happening before is that when rendering with fonts that did not have vowel positioning information, ICU would use a heuristic method of guessing where vowel marks should go. A compromise might be to detect whether the font has 'mark' tables, and to use the heuristic method as a fallback if it doesn't. Nevertheless, for accurate Hebrew rendering an OpenType font with vowel positioning tables should be used. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement o f Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 22 18:06:57 -0700 2005 --- Those fonts probably don't have GPOS tables to use to position the vowels, whereas fonts like Ezra SIL, SBL Hebrew, and Cardo do. Because of this, those Microsoft fonts aren't good for Hebrew. Did previous versions of OOo render properly with those fonts? I think ICU may have used a heuristic for older fonts without GPOS tables, but this heuristic method of vowel positioning is no longer used. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[gsl-issues] [Issue 54069] Hebrew vowel pointers dis played incorrectly
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=54069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep 2 10:49:09 -0700 2005 --- Verified fixed on FreeBSD 680m126; see following attachment. Windows still needs verification. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[gsl-issues] [Issue 54069] Hebrew vowel pointers dis played incorrectly
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=54069 User mreimer changed the following: What|Old value |New value Attachment data| |Created an attachment | |(id=29283) screenshot of | |FreeBSD 680m126 rendering | |the test document hebrew | |words.sxw --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep 2 10:50:00 -0700 2005 --- Created an attachment (id=29283) screenshot of FreeBSD 680m126 rendering the test document hebrew words.sxw - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[gsl-issues] [Issue 54069] Hebrew vowel pointers dis played incorrectly
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=54069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 1 08:36:56 -0700 2005 --- I'll try to verify this today on FreeBSD and Windows. But doesn't the Windows version use Uniscribe, not ICU? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement o f Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 22 01:11:22 -0700 2005 --- I have verified that Hebrew vowels/diacritics are rendered properly now, with four patches against m110: 1) my ICU patch, posted here Oct 2003 2) the ICU patch from IZ 50571 3 4) two small hdu patches against sallayout.cxx and gcach_layout.cxx. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 13 22:59:07 -0700 2005 --- The patch for IZ 50571 seems to fix Hebrew vowel rendering, at least for my m77 build. I'll try to build a clean m109 with and without this patch. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=50571 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 13 22:57:45 -0700 2005 --- cmc's patch above also seems to fix IZ 14069, at least for my build of m77. I'll try to get a clean m109 built and test this patch again. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement of Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 4 16:05:58 -0800 2005 --- Another data point: with the patch I mentioned previously, and with a good OpenType font (SBL Hebrew, Ezra SIL, or Cardo), in Online Layout mode the vowels/nikud render perfectly. Actually this isn't really a new data point, because HDU mentioned earlier that he sees this rendering problem with Online Layout disabled; just wanted to make clearer that OOo can in some instances render Hebrew nikud/vowels properly. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 14069] Problems with placement of Hebrew vowels (nikud | diacritics) in Linux
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 20 17:15:12 -0800 2005 --- This issue also affects OS X. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
