[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-11-26 Thread fs
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  Status|RESOLVED  |REOPENED

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--- Additional comments from f...@openoffice.org Fri Nov 26 12:11:28 + 
2010 ---
Yes, it still happens. See
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=114187#desc8.

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[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-11-24 Thread oj
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--- Additional comments from o...@openoffice.org Wed Nov 24 10:08:39 + 
2010 ---
@ameliab: Could you please check if this work for you in OOo 3.3 RCx. Thanks.

Feel free to reopen this issue.

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[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-09-03 Thread fs
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--- Additional comments from f...@openoffice.org Fri Sep  3 11:37:58 + 
2010 ---
ah, I used the wrong version! In fact, in OOo 3.2.1, for both
HeadsOrTails-NoSort-DirectSQL and Query_DirectSQL, the filter/sort buttons
are enabled when opening the queries by double-clicking them.
In OOo 3.3 Beta 1, this is fixed - so seems this issue is gone meanwhile.

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[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-09-02 Thread ameliab
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--- Additional comments from amel...@openoffice.org Thu Sep  2 17:26:28 
+ 2010 ---
quote:  
Do you say that the filter/sort buttons are enabled when viewing the
*_DirectSQL queries? Or are those two paragraphs unrelated?


As atjensen noted in a comment that unfortunately got appended to the wrong
issue, the buttons are disabled if you run the query while in edit mode, but not
if you just open the saved query.  In that case, the buttons and dialogs can be
used, they just don't have any effect.  

Although it would be ideal in the long wrong to enable sorts and filters on
these results, in the short term at least it would be expected to have these
buttons disabled if they aren't going to do anything.

Similarly, in the case of queries run through the OO SQL parser, I would suggest
that even if the user cannot *change* the original sort or filter stored in the
query, they should be able to at least have some feedback to know what is going 
 on.

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[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-09-02 Thread ameliab
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--- Additional comments from amel...@openoffice.org Thu Sep  2 17:35:21 
+ 2010 ---
in the long *term* that should read.  Not sure how Freud would interpret that
slip!

As for the long term, my first instinct is that it shouldn't be too complicated
to implement it.  Instead of sending a revised version of the original query
(which OO wouldn't be able to do, since it isn't parsing the original query), OO
could create a new query that selected from the original as a subquery -- SELECT
* FROM (original query) WHERE (new filter conditions) ORDER BY (new sort order).
 You wouldn't be able to remove existing filter conditions, only filter amongst
the results you have, but I think that is a reasonably intuitive behaviour.

There's just one difficulty -- issue 114188 , at least when dealing with the
embedded DB.

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[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-09-01 Thread fs
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--- Additional comments from f...@openoffice.org Thu Sep  2 05:33:31 + 
2010 ---
cite:
  When viewing the results of a query that uses direct SQL (i.e., the run
  SQL command directly button is checked), neither sort *nor* filter
  commands work. This is true even if there is no order by clause or
  conditions on the query.

  Again, there is no feedback to the user that these options aren't
  available -- you can press the buttons and fill in the dialog boxes, but
  nothing happens.

Do you say that the filter/sort buttons are enabled when viewing the
*_DirectSQL queries? Or are those two paragraphs unrelated?

(Here, the buttons are disabled, which is the expected situation for a Direct
SQL query.)


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[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-09-01 Thread fs
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  OS/Version|Mac OS X, 10.5|All

Platform|Macintosh |All





--- Additional comments from f...@openoffice.org Thu Sep  2 05:40:26 + 
2010 ---
So basically this issue boils down to:
If you have a query containing an ORDER BY clause, say,
  SELECT * FROM table ORDER BY column
, and display this query's data, then
- the sort order dialog doesn't give you any clue that there already
  is a sort order applied
- applying sort orders via the dialog might lead to confusing results, since
  the new explicit sort order is subordinate to the existing, implicit sort
  order, which the user might not know about

I agree that this is a usability problem, though I am not sure how one would
solve this. Giving the user control over the existing implicit sort orders is
non-trivial, UX-wise, since then the Remove Filter/Sort button would need
attention then (is this expected to remove only the implicit, or the implicit
and the explicit sort orders?). Also, the sort order dialog would need an
extension then, so it is not limited to three entries anymore (this would be a
Good Thing (TM), anyway).

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[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-08-29 Thread ameliab
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 Issue #|114187
 Summary|Cannot see/remove query sorts from order by statemen
|t in query view
   Component|Database access
 Version|OOo 3.2.1
Platform|Macintosh
 URL|
  OS/Version|Mac OS X, 10.5
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|none
 Assigned to|dbaneedsconfirm
 Reported by|ameliab





--- Additional comments from amel...@openoffice.org Sun Aug 29 21:36:24 
+ 2010 ---
When viewing the results of a query, any sort order created in the query
definition is applied invisibly -- it does not show up in the sort order
dialog, you cannot remove it, and if you sort by any other column the new sort
is added as a secondary sort (i.e., it often doesn't appear to do anything).

The only sort that actually works as expected is if you reverse the original
sort.  Otherwise, it just appears to a user that the sort function doesn't work.

It doesn't matter whether the order by function was added through the
OpenOffice query design or by direct SQL to the underlying database (embedded
HSQL in my case).

The same problem does not exist with table views that contain order by
statements -- you can sort the results normally when viewing data.

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[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-08-29 Thread ameliab
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--- Additional comments from amel...@openoffice.org Sun Aug 29 22:29:20 
+ 2010 ---
Clarification:

When viewing the results of a query that uses direct SQL (i.e., the run SQL
command directly button is checked), neither sort *nor* filter commands work. 
This is true even if there is no order by clause or conditions on the query.

Again, there is no feedback to the user that these options aren't available --
you can press the buttons and fill in the dialog boxes, but nothing happens.

This may be a separate issue from the above issue with order by, but it seems
related.


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[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-08-29 Thread ameliab
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--- Additional comments from amel...@openoffice.org Sun Aug 29 22:47:30 
+ 2010 ---
Created an attachment (id=71467)
Test DB created when exploring this issue and issue 114188


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[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-08-29 Thread ameliab
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--- Additional comments from amel...@openoffice.org Sun Aug 29 23:57:50 
+ 2010 ---
Explanation of the test database:

The same test database is relevant for issue 114187 (re-sorting sorted queries),
issue 114188 (syntax errors in queries that reference a sorted query) and issue
114189 (Base crashes when using filters on columns created by correlated
subqueries).

(A)
There is one original table, named Numbers.  It consists of: 
  PrimaryKey, an auto-generated primary key, and 
  RandNumber, a series of random numbers 0 = RandNumber  1

(B)
There are three different versions of queries that operate directly on this 
table:
Query_OOSQL runs through the OpenOffice SQL parser
Query_DirectSQL has the run SQL command directly button selected
View is a table view copy of Query_DirectSQL

All three create three columns: 
  ID, the primary key repeated, 
  MoreThanHalf, a boolean based on whether or not RandNumber is greater than
0.5  (Side note -- I had to use some math and data type casting to recreate this
result with the OpenOffice SQL parser, which doesn't accept a simple boolean
statement as a column definition.  Annoying.) and
  ThrownNum which uses a correlated subquery to determine the rank of this
record when the records are sorted by primary key (i.e., counts the number of
records with a smaller or equal primary key).

These are the queries that are relevant to issue 114189 -- arguably the most
important issue, since its the one that results in crashes (although probably
fewer people are using correlated subqueries than are sorting queries!)

Applying a filter to the results of Query_OOSQL causes a crash.  Applying a
filter or sort to the results of Query_DirectSQL causes a crash or hang.  No
problems when using the view.

(C)
Then, there are a series of queries and one view named HeadsOrTails etc.,
which basically regenerate the above results with different column alias, and
various sort options.  These are the queries that are relevant to (this) issue
114187, about being unable to sort already sorted results.

Note that sorting/filtering these queries doesn't cause crashing, even though
they are actually submitting a query with a subquery with a nested correlated
subquery to the database.  (The exception is the DirectSQL query, which of
course can't reference another query, and so is based on the View defined 
above.)

HeadsOrTails-HeadsSort is a query ordered by the boolean column Heads.  When
viewing the results, sorting by the count column ThrowNum adds a secondary
sort.  Filtering works properly.

HeadsOrTails-ThrowSort is a query ordered by the count column ThrowNum. 
Trying to sort the results based on Heads appears to have no effect, since
ThrowNum values are all unique.  Again, filtering works properly.

HeadsOrTails-NoSort is the same query without an ordered by clause.  It can be
sorted and filtered no problem.

HeadsOrTails-NoSort-DirectSQL is an unsorted query, but run directly by the
embedded database instead of using the OpenOffice SQL parser.  Results cannot be
sorted or filtered.

View_HeadsOrTails is a sorted table view.  Data can be re-sorted and filtered
no problem.

(D)
The final set of queries filter the HeadsOrTails queries to only list those
where Heads is true.  These are the queries relevant to issue 114188 -- syntax
errors when OpenOffice tries to use a sorted query as a subquery.

HeadsOnly-UsingUnsortedQuery is defined based on the HeadsOrTails-NoSort
query.  It works fine.

HeadsOnly-UsingSortedQuery is the same, but it is based on the
HeadsOrTails-HeadsSort query.  OpenOffice parses the query no problem, you can
edit it in design mode, but when you actually try to view data the embedded
database issues an error.

HeadsOnly-UsingView is again the same idea, but based on the (sorted)
View_HeadsOrTails.  It works fine.

All in all, a couple examples of unexpected behaviour and one dangerous crash
when using queries.  I think I'll be using mostly views from now on, but that's
not always an option when using an external database!


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[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-08-29 Thread ameliab
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--- Additional comments from amel...@openoffice.org Mon Aug 30 00:07:23 
+ 2010 ---
Re-reading this sentence I realize it isn't very clear without actually opening
the database:

Then, there are a series of queries and one view named HeadsOrTails etc.,
which basically regenerate the above results with different column alias, and
various sort options.

What I meant is that the HeadsOrTails queries are created in design view by
selecting the columns from the first set of queries / views.  ThrowNum is
selected and MoreThanHalf is selected and aliased as Heads. 

No functions or new subqueries are defined, although OpenOffice of course
creates a nested sub-query by substituting one query into the FROM clause of the
other.  But that doesn't seem to cause problems.

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[dba-issues] [Issue 114187] Cannot see/remove query s orts from order by statement in query view

2010-08-29 Thread atjensen
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 Assigned to|dbaneedsconfirm   |oj

  Ever confirmed|  |1

  Status|UNCONFIRMED   |NEW





--- Additional comments from atjen...@openoffice.org Mon Aug 30 00:44:35 
+ 2010 ---
Confirmed w/ go-00 3.2.1 Windows and Linux



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