[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 109053] Update of Slovak dictiona ry package

2010-04-15 Thread sba
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|RESOLVED  |VERIFIED





--- Additional comments from s...@openoffice.org Thu Apr 15 06:42:36 + 
2010 ---
Slovak dictionary version now is 2010.02.09
Verified in CWS dict321.

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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 109053] Update of Slovak dictiona ry package

2010-04-08 Thread tl
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What|Old value |New value

 Assigned to|tl|sba





--- Additional comments from t...@openoffice.org Thu Apr  8 09:53:25 + 
2010 ---
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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 109053] Update of Slovak dictiona ry package

2010-04-07 Thread tl
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|STARTED   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





--- Additional comments from t...@openoffice.org Wed Apr  7 07:16:44 + 
2010 ---
Fixed in CWS dict321.

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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 109053] Update of Slovak dictiona ry package

2010-03-31 Thread szilva
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--- Additional comments from szi...@openoffice.org Wed Mar 31 15:47:46 
+ 2010 ---
Created an attachment (id=68674)
Slovak dictionary package 2010.02.09


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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 109053] Update of Slovak dictiona ry package

2010-03-31 Thread szilva
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--- Additional comments from szi...@openoffice.org Wed Mar 31 15:58:55 
+ 2010 ---
szilva -- tl

Thank you for the explanation.

 which identifier should I use?

So, our conclusion is:

identifier value:
org.openoffice.sk.dictionary

update-website:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/dict-sk

Please, use the latest extension dict-sk.oxt attached in this issue and 
replace the old extension in Slovak OpenOffice.org 3.xx installation packages.


Reason: We use the identifier org.openoffice.sk.dictionary for updates of 
dictionary packages since September 2008. This identifier was created following 
dictionary packages of other languages.
The identifier org.openoffice.sk.hunspell.dictionaries is wrong, it was never 
used for dictionary updates, we do not need two identifier values for the same 
extension ... and there should be no problem to replace it.

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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 109053] Update of Slovak dictiona ry package

2010-03-30 Thread tl
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--- Additional comments from t...@openoffice.org Tue Mar 30 13:46:20 + 
2010 ---
tl-szilva : Is this an update to the old Slovak default extension or is it a
new one?
This extension has different identifier than the previous one. If that is the
case older extensions (using the old identifier) can not be updated by this
extension.
If this is an update the extension needs to keep the same identifier. Otherwise
it will be regarded as completely new one that has nothing to do with the old.

Therefore: which identifier should I use? 
(And keep in mind that your extension in the repository must have the same 
name.)


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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 109053] Update of Slovak dictiona ry package

2010-03-30 Thread szilva
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--- Additional comments from szi...@openoffice.org Tue Mar 30 14:57:06 
+ 2010 ---
szilva--tl 

This is an update of dictionaries and also a change of identifier value.

Since 2008-Sep-05, the Slovak dictionary package extension dict-sk.oxt on 
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/dict-sk uses the identifier 
value org.openoffice.sk.dictionary. This identifier is wide used. All updates 
of this dictionary package used this identifier value and many users use it for 
checking the updates. We have access to this dictionary package and we update 
it 
quite often.

All Slovak versions of OpenOffice.org 3.x.x installation packages contain the 
slovak dictionary package dict-sk.oxt. This package uses the identifier value 
org.openoffice.hunspell.dictionaries. We do not have appropriate rights to 
change/update this dictionary package and we don't know how to change it. This 
package cannot be updated using the update service because it does not include 
the update-website element and the correct identifier value.

So, to solve this problem, we would like to update the Slovak dictionary 
package 
and also change the identifier.

 Otherwise it will be regarded as completely new one that has nothing to do 
with the old.

I am sorry, but I don't know, what does it mean, if an extension will be 
regarded as completely new one that has nothing to do with the old. What are 
the 
consequences of that?

 And keep in mind that your extension in the repository must have the same 
name.

I am sorry, but I don't know what do you mean by a repository. Is that the 
slovak dictionary package on 
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/dict-sk ?
Or is it another file somewhere in the sources of OpenOffice.org project? We do 
not have appropriate rights for access to OpenOffice.org sources.

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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 109053] Update of Slovak dictiona ry package

2010-03-30 Thread tl
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--- Additional comments from t...@openoffice.org Tue Mar 30 20:00:29 + 
2010 ---
tl-szilva:
 
 Otherwise it will be regarded as completely new one that has nothing 
 to do with the old.

Basically it means that even if all other data and files are the same the
extension will be treated as a different one if the identifier is different.
This implies:

a) You can't install the same extension twice. Thus if everything is the same
aside from the identifier you will be able to install both. Which may leave you
with two identical set of dictionaries, which you usually don't want.

b) By introducing a new identifier you will start a new update line. 
That is if you have a data set A1 in an extension with identifier ID1 and you
now make an update to that data set (lets name that data set A2) and put that in
an extension with the new identifier ID2, then OOo installations that already
have the extension with A1/ID1 installed will not find an update to that
extension even if the new extension (A2/ID2) is already uploaded to the
extension repository.

This means in old office installations no one will get the new extension by just
looking for extension updates. (You either need to install the new extension
manually, and better remove the old one as well, or you need to install the
whole new OOo 3.2.1)

And especially if people are going to manually install the new extension
(A2/ID2) without removing the old one (A1/ID1) then we will have two set of
dictionaries. If the content is equal then it will just introduce some overhead,
that will probably not be noted at all. 
But if for example the new extension was going to fix a misspelling in the list
of words for the spell checker, then it may happen, that it will have no visible
effect since the old one (with the misspelled word) is still around. That is
because (if I recall correctly) the spell check implementation will look in all
available dictionaries for a single language. And if the word is found in just
one of them it is regarded as correct. This in turn is implemented to allow for
the presence of e.g. a 'en-US basic dictionary' and a 'en-US medical' or 'en-US
financial' dictionary and the like at the same time. If that were not possible
then anyone who wants to use 'en-US basic dictionary' along with 'en-US medical'
would be required to get an extension where the content of both is merged into a
single dictionary file. And that would be very inconvenient.


 And keep in mind that your extension in the repository must have 
 the same name.

 I am sorry, but I don't know what do you mean by a repository. Is that 
 the slovak dictionary package on 
 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/dict-sk ?

Yes. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ is the so called 'extension
repository'.


Thus considering all the above please make your choice. Either one will be fine.


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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 109053] Update of Slovak dictiona ry package

2010-03-24 Thread tl
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|NEW   |STARTED

Target milestone|OOo 3.3   |OOo 3.2.1





--- Additional comments from t...@openoffice.org Wed Mar 24 07:46:51 + 
2010 ---
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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 109053] Update of Slovak dictiona ry package

2010-02-12 Thread sba
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User sba changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  CC|'brko,va,zdpo'|'brko,sba,tl,va,zdpo'

 Assigned to|sba   |tl

   Component|l10n  |lingucomponent

  QA contact|iss...@l10n   |iss...@lingucomponent

Subcomponent|localedata|spell checking

 Version|current   |OOo 3.1.1





--- Additional comments from s...@openoffice.org Fri Feb 12 09:31:13 + 
2010 ---
SBA-TL: PLease proceed, thank you.

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