[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2010-04-07 Thread rockfx01
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--- Additional comments from rockf...@openoffice.org Wed Apr  7 20:42:42 
+ 2010 ---
This defect is a major PITA.

Compatibility with Excel aside, this is a MAJOR problem.  Because of the way
that OOo calculates empty cells with these functions, AFAIK there is NO WAY to
accurately calculate the number of empty cells within a range if any of those
cells contain an equation whose output is an empty string, i.e. ="".

In Excel, this can be done one of TWO ways, using either COUNTBLANK(), or
COUNTIF(,"").

I started using COUNTBLANK originally so that spreadsheets which have to count
blank/empty cells would be compatible with both Excel and OOo, since
COUNTIF(,"") doesn't work at all in OOo.  Now with more advanced
spreadsheets which contain equations within these cell ranges, I've found that
OOo is simply incapable of handling such simple equations, and I have been
unable to find a way to make a spreadsheet that will calculate blank/empty cells
correctly in OOo.  So you see it is not simply a matter of OOo being
incompatible with Excel; rather, it is a matter of OOo being absolutely
incapable of performing such a (simple) calculation with its current function 
set.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to count the number of blank cells (cells containing an empty
string result ="" in addition to the truly empty cells containing absolutely
nothing) using OOo.  I've tried this in OOo 3.0 and 3.1, and there is NO WAY to
do this as far as I can tell.  If there is, please enlighten me.  The earliest
defect I found regarding this issue dates back to 2003. 7 years later it has yet
to be addressed.

COUNTIF(,"") doesn't work at all in OOo and always returns a result of 0.

COUNTBLANK() will only count cells if they have absolutely nothing in
them.  IMO COUNTBLANK() should also count cells where an equation returns an
empty string "".  In fact, it is what I would expect given the fact that by
returning an empty string, you are effectively saying "This cell is empty."

ISBLANK() returns FALSE for a cell containing the equation ="".

I read the Help manual and understand this is the expected behavior of OOo due
to the way it specifies 'blank' cells, but WHY?  I'd like to know what exactly
the usage case is for counting cells containing equations that return an empty
string "" as NOT blank?  The current behavior and specification does not make
any sense whatsoever IMO.

There needs to be some simple way to do this.  Using a function that is already
shared by Excel and OOo would be ideal, because most people use Excel and not
OOo. Also, the behavior of Excel for COUNTBLANK() makes far more sense than
OOo's behavior.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2010-03-31 Thread cjhansen
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--- Additional comments from cjhan...@openoffice.org Wed Mar 31 15:49:31 
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For those of us who develop spreadsheet applications for anonymous users, 
compatibility is a huge 
concern, even if the solution is not technically perfect.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2010-03-31 Thread brinzing
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User brinzing changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  CC|'kohei,masayan,mathieupare|'brinzing,kohei,masayan,ma
|nt,nn,regina' |thieuparent,nn,regina'





--- Additional comments from brinz...@openoffice.org Wed Mar 31 09:15:33 
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[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2010-03-30 Thread regina
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--- Additional comments from reg...@openoffice.org Tue Mar 30 23:53:15 
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*** Issue 110508 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2009-10-14 Thread regina
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--- Additional comments from reg...@openoffice.org Wed Oct 14 19:52:48 
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*** Issue 105908 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2009-01-06 Thread regina
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User regina changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  CC|'kohei,masayan,mathieupare|'kohei,masayan,mathieupare
|nt,nn'|nt,nn,regina'





--- Additional comments from reg...@openoffice.org Tue Jan  6 10:45:11 
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@ztevepowell: You can get the draft spec of ODF from
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?wg_abbrev=office-formula. You
get most of the relevant places by searching for "empty cell" and "blank".

A place to discuss the problem is the mailing list us...@sc.openoffice.org or
maybe  d...@sc.openoffice.org. 

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[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2009-01-06 Thread ztevepowell
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--- Additional comments from ztevepow...@openoffice.org Tue Jan  6 09:36:59 
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In the other issues consolidated here there is considerable confusion about 
what constitutes an empty 
cell and whether OOo should be 'compatible' with XL. 

There is a further issue: in the help it clearly uses the phrase 'empty cell' 
to mean one with no value set, 
and furthermore to DEFINE equality comparison with "" and 0 to succeed against 
such cells.

Try, for example, using A1="" and A1<>"" as cell formulae against the empty 
(unset) cell A1, and you 
will discover the semantics of comparison. 

Independent of the question of compatibility with XL is the necessity for 
compatibility with OOo.  SUMIF, 
COUNTIF and the like, should apply the same comparison rules as simple 
comparison formulae -- and 
they don't. 

This note is to request of the developer looking at this to provide some sort 
of specification, and to 
ensure that self-consistency is preserved.  Is there a place to discuss this?  

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[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2009-01-05 Thread regina
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--- Additional comments from reg...@openoffice.org Mon Jan  5 22:10:04 
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*** Issue 97711 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2009-01-05 Thread dridgway
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--- Additional comments from dridg...@openoffice.org Mon Jan  5 14:09:34 
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[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2008-02-08 Thread regina
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[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2008-01-04 Thread kohei
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[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2007-09-03 Thread fst
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[sc-issues] [Issue 65221] SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK , DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" an d ="" empty string criteria

2006-12-14 Thread masayan
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