[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-07-07 Thread es
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-07-07 Thread mru
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-06-01 Thread mru
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-05-21 Thread mike_hall
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--- Additional comments from mike_h...@openoffice.org Fri May 21 07:20:14 
+ 2010 ---
The tone of the discussion here has changed a little from 'this isn't something
that is needed' to 'this is very difficult'. Thanks for that.

Here are some observations:
- OOO later can generally be interpreted as 'never'
- on the other hand, as the previous change from 8 to 16 bits shows, this is
something that will be needed eventually for a professional product
- it seems intuitive that in high quality code, size should be set by a
parameter, as even 32 bits is unlikely to be the final buffer size

To what extent would it be practical to start preparing for the change, so that
it was much less significant when eventually attempted? For example, would it be
practical to slowly convert the code so that the current 16 bit implementation
is based on a parameter? If it was, the amended class and methods could be
introduced slowly by all developers as they enhance code for other reasons. It
would also allow anyone who was particularly interested in making this change to
start preparation for it within the standard code and it may well be that some
automation of the changes might be possible. It would also allow experimental 32
bit buffer builds and testing. After some time, regrettably probably several
years, the remaining conversion would be much less of a problem, though as mba
clearly explained, it would not be insignificant. If nothing is done, the
problem can only become harder and harder.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-05-21 Thread floris_v
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--- Additional comments from flori...@openoffice.org Fri May 21 07:47:26 
+ 2010 ---
A simple parameter won't work here, what would help a lot however to prevent
this kind of trouble in the future is a strict ban on explicit size typecasts.
Maybe you should introduce a special StringSize type for any typecasts - it's a
pity that you can't ban typecasts entirely, they're a big pain. Then when the
size needs to be doubled again, all you have to do is redefine StringType and
recompile. And then pray that the same thing doesn't pop up in extensions, that
are entirely beyond the control of the developers.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-05-21 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri May 21 11:54:00 + 
2010 ---
From my POV this was never a nobody needs that.

Please don't mix the step from 8 bit characters to 16 bit characters with 16 bit
string length vs. 32 bit string length. These are completely different topics
and the necessity to do the first conversion is not related to the other one.

Of course the String class uses a special type for length and indices. But there
is other code that was written in the last 15 years that works with strings and
in many places this explicit type is not used. 

I already thought about a possible way to reduce the effort over time. It's
interesting that I had the same idea as you: if everyone who comes across code
dealing with Strings has a short look and replaces all usage of unsigned 16 bit
variables by the special type xub_StrLen, we could reduce the effort over
time. Sounds like something I could try to advertize amongst the developers.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-05-21 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri May 21 11:57:50 + 
2010 ---
Extensions already use 32 bit string length as our UNO API uses the mentioned
other string class. So we will be safe with them until anybody wants to
transport more than 4 GB of data with a single string variable.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-05-21 Thread hdu
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User hdu changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  CC|'allsorts46,asrail,baumux,|'allsorts46,asrail,baumux,
|chris_mux,clutz,cornouws,g|chris_mux,clutz,cornouws,g
|nustavo,kamataki,kpalagin,|nustavo,hdu,kamataki,kpala
|lijian,mba,mike_hall,mux20|gin,lijian,mba,mike_hall,m
|05,simos,thierrym,vion,vol|ux2005,simos,thierrym,vion
|kov_peter,yunkong'|,volkov_peter,yunkong'





--- Additional comments from h...@openoffice.org Fri May 21 13:52:02 + 
2010 ---
 replaces all usage of unsigned 16 bit variables by the special type 
 xub_StrLen

Yes, this is the important first step. C++ could help with finding all these 
places if xub_StrLen was a 
class that did not provide an implicit conversion to an integral type anymore 
when a module has been 
fixed (similar to the gradual changes for warning code, where unchanged modules 
were marked with 
EXTERNAL_WARNING_NOT_ERRORS).

The concept of strlen is so ambiguous that its use cases would benefit from 
some clarification. Using 
the helper class suggested above the different use cases could be explicitly 
differentiated by providing 
methods such as getStrBufferSize(), getUTF16Count(), getUTF32Count()

Finally the concept of strlen should be replaced to an iterator based 
approach...

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-05-20 Thread piduca
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--- Additional comments from pid...@openoffice.org Thu May 20 13:24:58 
+ 2010 ---
Hello everyone.
(at first, sorry for my very bad English)

Every week I need to write at least one ata - as renatoyamane said, this is
the portuguese word from the latin acta, that is the name of a document where
people records the events of an official governmental meeting.
Some of the developers and some of the people that follow this thread can think:
Why someone would need a paragraph with more than 65535 characters?... My
answer is: this is a necessity!!! And, unlike most of you can imagine, there are
many people that have this needs!!!
Actas (I didn't find the English word either for it, renatoyamane) need to be
written in ONE PARAGRAPH, and as someone already said before, this is a RULE.
And there are many REASONS to this rule, and one of them is that, as an official
and very important document (usually written by governmental or law docs), it is
necessary to avoid the possibility of later changes on the formatted text
(possibly made by obscure and/or illegal/fraudulent intentions).
I am not saying that we need 64 bit long characters... But 32 bit would be
perfect!!! Why not using 32 bits?
And for those that think that this reason doesn't worth the developer's effort,
my answer is: other word processors can handle big paragraphs since dinosaur's
era, but unfortunately I need to go to M$ Word to handle my big actas, and I
am VERY SAD for having to do this!!!
I AM STILL A FAN of OpenOffice, but you developers are forcing to me to go
elsewhere, and this makes me MAD!!
Come on, guys!!! A 7-years-old issue that is centered in a simple variable (a
question of 16 bits to 32 bits migration on a specific feature) doesn't deserves
your attention?? This is absurd, unacceptable!! (I know that there is an issue
of internal limitation, but why this limitations applies only to OO, and no
other word-processor since stone-era?
Again, sorry for my bad English. Hope everybody understand my disappointment.
And hope we can write actas in Open Office the sooner the better.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-05-20 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu May 20 15:31:20 + 
2010 ---
Your post is a perfect example why users and developers often talk past each 
other. 

If this would be only a simple variable change we would have done that years
ago. Unfortunately this is a huge effort as there is a lot of code that assumes
that a paragraph or a text range length fits into 16 bit integer variables. You
have to find and change all of them - that's quite a lot of work to do. So
please refrain from such statements without actually having studied the code
before. 

Of course huge effort alone never is a reason not to do something. But still
there are other things we consider to be more important we can do in the same
time frame. This can't be changed by telling us that this is only a central
variable to change though we know that this just isn't true.

Of course everybody is tempted to think that his/her requirements are the most
important ones. But even if you know hundreds or thousands of other users with
the same requirement, there may be hundreds or thousands of other users with
other requirements that compete with yours for the available development 
resources.



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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-05-20 Thread simos
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--- Additional comments from si...@openoffice.org Thu May 20 17:34:33 + 
2010 ---
piduca: We all want to have this issue fixed. It is very important to be civil
and not appear condescending. I believe this was due to linguistic/cultural
differences. 

mba: This issue looks like one that should be examined by the release team in
order to figure out when to tackle (for which OOo release). Can you please give
a pointer to the mailing list where we can ask to have this issue considered for
a future release?

In addition, is it possible to give some high level instructions for an
ambitious developer who would try to give it a go and modify the code
themselves? This developer should be able to compile OOo; is there a rough guide
on which files need changing?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-05-20 Thread floris_v
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--- Additional comments from flori...@openoffice.org Thu May 20 18:38:41 
+ 2010 ---
Come on folks, piduca took the trouble to download and install this, probably
even spent time to register, only to find that it's no use for him. I can
imagine he's frustrated. I can also imagine the pain of having to hunt down all
references of paragraphs as 16 bit entities, as I recently migrated from Delphi
to Lazarus, only to find that my old 16 bit integers were suddenly interpreted
as 32 bit longint. That gave rise to an incredibly long list of compiler errors
and warnings, and some real bugs with 16 bit data stored on disk interpreted as
32 bits, so I had some overflow there.
Meaning to say: good luck with it!

Maybe somebody should communicate this problem to the marketing department. It'd
be nice if people would be warned about this before they download the package.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-05-20 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu May 20 21:56:37 + 
2010 ---
The number of files to change is huge.

To give you (or the ambitious developer reading here) an impression: we use an
object of class String to store the text of a paragraph. This class only
supports 16 Bit length and indices. [We have another string class that supports
32 Bit, but it is a read-only string class (part of the UNO C++ runtime 
library).]
We could change the String class to support 32 Bit length and indices. But this
class is one of the most used classes in OOo, so we had to change code in nearly
every library of OOo that does not use the mentioned 32 bit string class
exclusively.

An alternative: use an own String class just for paragraphs in Writer and see
how far it goes. But what should happen if someone selects such paragraph and
pastes it into Calc? And what about the code that Writer and Calc or Draw share
and that also uses Strings (like e.g. the HTML filter)? Sooner or later we will
end up with extending string lengths and indices to 32 Bit all over the place.
So yes, we have to change the String class, there is no alternative.

Thus we have to investigate all code that touches, passes or reads a string and
look for usage of string length and indexing. Can you imagine how much code that
is in an office suite?

Technically, it would be necessary to change the String class, recompile the
code and look for integer cast warnings (as now 32 Bit integers are handed over
to calls or assignments that expect 16 Bit integers) and fix them by moving even
more code to support 32 Bit integer parameters. It's like throwing stones into
the water and follow the waves they create.
And here we can only *hope* that nobody has used integer casts or even C style
casts to convert arbitrary integer variables to unsigned 16 Bit integers, the
type that is used for String length and indices, as then no warning would appear
that can point us to a possible problem. So most probably we also had to scan
the code for integer casts and C style casts to USHORT etc. and investigate this
code.

Can you imagine how much work this would be in several million lines of code? At
least several months - if we don't do anything else. This is comparable to the
switch from 8 Bit characters to 16 Bit characters that we made before we open
sourced the code - so we have some data for comparison. And we had much less
code 10 years ago...

Is this issue worth stopping all other OOo development for several months? Don't
you think that most users will think that we are nuts?

But that's only engineering. As we can't be sure that we have found and
converted all places, we had to make intensive testing with many documents
containing huge paragraphs everywhere and apply all possible functions to them. 

IMHO we can invest our time in other areas with more benefit for the project.
It's not impossible, but very, very much work.

That's the reason why this issue has got the target later. It's not the last
word about it, but it's the status quo.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-04-25 Thread thierrym
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User thierrym changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  CC|'allsorts46,asrail,baumux,|'allsorts46,asrail,baumux,
|chris_mux,clutz,cornouws,g|chris_mux,clutz,cornouws,g
|nustavo,kamataki,kpalagin,|nustavo,kamataki,kpalagin,
|lijian,mba,mike_hall,mux20|lijian,mba,mike_hall,mux20
|05,simos,vion,volkov_peter|05,simos,thierrym,vion,vol
|,yunkong' |kov_peter,yunkong'





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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-01-03 Thread mike_hall
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--- Additional comments from mike_h...@openoffice.org Sun Jan  3 23:15:49 
+ 2010 ---
@anoopshah
Those are very imaginative approaches, but do they resolve the problem?

The difficulty is that the suggestions, particularly the first, add unnecessary
complexity and it's not obvious that the extra coding required would be less
than doing the job properly. Writer is perfectly capable of handling a document
with more than 65534 characters. Why can't a paragraph be paged in and out in an
analogous way to a document? That might improve rather than detract from
performance.

The bottom line is that there are users who need very large paragraphs, whether
because of the nature of the document or as an interim step in editing large
documents. A 100 page book isn't very long in this context.

Hard limits were common in early application software. Later, it was generally
accepted that limits should be imposed only by what the hardware can handle. I
understand that this may be a very difficult issue to fix within Writer, but it
seems inevitable that the limit must be removed one day. A professional product
would have this capability.



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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2010-01-02 Thread anoopshah
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--- Additional comments from anoops...@openoffice.org Sat Jan  2 16:35:11 
+ 2010 ---
I presume lawyers want to create documents that look like a single paragraph 
when printed and are not bothered about OOo's internal representation of the 
paragraph. For performance reasons it is better to keep paragraphs small, 
certainly much smaller than 60,000 characters.

What about the following solution:
Provide an additional paragraph style feature merge with next paragraph. If a 
paragraph has this style, OOo is allowed to move the paragraph mark when 
repaginating / refreshing the document so that it always seems to merge into 
the 
next paragraph. When documents with large paragraphs are opened, they are 
automatically split into smaller paragraphs with this paragraph style feature. 
When saving in Microsoft Word format, the paragraphs can be merged back into a 
huge paragraph.

Alternatively, without a new format:
1. On detecting a very long paragraph approaching the limit, Writer will 
automatically insert a paragraph break and warn the user that it has done so.

2. To provide an extension or plugin for 'virtual paragraphs'. This program 
scans through the text in the current section (or selection) and moves all 
paragraph marks to the end of the nearest line, to give the illusion (when 
printed) that the document consists of one paragraph. It will check that there 
is zero extra linefeed before or after the moved paragraph marks. The program 
will not alter double paragraph marks, or marks between paragraphs with 
different text styles.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2009-12-03 Thread mru
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Dec  3 12:34:17 + 
2009 ---
*** Issue 107382 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2009-10-05 Thread mh
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2009-09-27 Thread lijian
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2009-09-26 Thread renatoyamane
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--- Additional comments from renatoyam...@openoffice.org Sat Sep 26 
17:39:14 + 2009 ---
Diego, IMHO I think that only way to fix this bug is buying a Microsoft Office
Suite.

This is the same in others areas that is necessary use Proprietary Softwares,
like Autodesk Inventor, Solidworks, etc.

Laws Office still need a Microsoft Office softwares[1]. OOo can´t be used on it.
This is a critical bug to Laws Offices, and a 6 years old bug means Live with
this bug.

[1] See comments:
* Fri Aug 11 23:50:57 + 2006
* Fri Apr 20 08:40:04 + 2007


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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2009-09-25 Thread diegomann
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--- Additional comments from diegom...@openoffice.org Fri Sep 25 15:16:34 
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Hi!

I started this bug back on Monday, Jul 21 2003. 

I still have hope someone will take REAL care of this.

This is a real-world bug and it has a serious impact on users and in general
word processing. I really want to stress this. It's not a theorical thing.

Best Regards
DIEGO URRA

All good things come to those who wait., Ronin

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2009-09-09 Thread urmasd
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--- Additional comments from urm...@openoffice.org Thu Sep 10 03:27:21 
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Still present in OOO310m11 (9399). Come on, it's 6 yr. old bug. Even Word 2 had
no such restriction, and it was 16-bit application from 1992!

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2008-11-20 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 20 12:31:04 + 
2008 ---
I just mentioned that if there was something that deserves a P2 it would be
the data loss part of the problem, not the inability to work with larger 
paragraphs.

I just had forgotten that we already have been there and that the data loss has
been fixed meanwhile. So as long as nobody proves the opposite: there is no data
loss anymore and so P3 is enough.

In case someone finds a situation where data loss caused by our paragraph limit
still occurs: please do it like superm401 and create a separate issue that can
be fixed with an earlier target. Fixing the data loss should always be possible
without extending the paragraph limit.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2008-11-20 Thread renatoyamane
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 20 14:44:40 + 
2008 ---
I don't agree with separate this bug in TWO.

IMHO:

1) Change priority of this bug to P2;
2) Fix problem about data loss if developers can't fix problem about longer
paragraph;
3) Change priority of this bug to P3;
4) Fix problem filed in 2003 (longer paragraph).

This is not 2 bugs. This is only one bug:
- If you write a longer paragraph, data can be lost.

Why the hell we need open a new issue to:
- Data can be lost if you write a longer paragraph?

They are the *SAME*!!

What is the root cause? Longer paragraph!

If developers can't fix problem about longer paragraph, so do an work-arround
to avoid data lost.

Best regards,
Renato

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2008-11-20 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 20 15:38:26 + 
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Our QA won't accept a partial fix for this issue. 

So again: if somebody knows a case where the paragraph problem will create data
loss, please create a separate issue so that we can fix it. Or stay with only
one issues and wait for probably a longer time until we don't have more
important problems than the inability to work with paragraphs that are longer
than most of the documents our users create on average.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2008-11-20 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 20 09:51:41 + 
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That depends. If the requirement is about extending the size of paragraphs, it's
at best a P3.

If the requirement is to avoid data loss in case a paragraph is changed to get
over this boundary - well, yes, that would be a P2.

If everybody is fine with separating this, we could create a second issue and
make that a P2. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2008-11-20 Thread superm401
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 20 10:09:09 + 
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I filed a separate bug for the data loss issue
(http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83427) and linked it here over
a year ago.  Not sure what more you're asking, mba.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2008-11-19 Thread renatoyamane
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 19 16:53:33 + 
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I think that correct Priority level need be P2 and not P3.
P2 is an issue with data loss.

And, I think that P2 priority need a target ASAP, not OOo Later.

OOo later mean When someone take a look here or Never.

Best regards,
Renato

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2008-11-18 Thread es
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 19 00:04:54 + 
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*** Issue 96176 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2008-03-21 Thread volkov_peter
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|nustavo,kpalagin,mba,mike_|nustavo,kpalagin,mba,mike_
|hall,mux2005,simos,vion,yu|hall,mux2005,simos,vion,vo
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2008-01-05 Thread aziem
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jan  6 06:11:41 + 
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-12-30 Thread es
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 30 17:47:53 + 
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-09 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov  9 08:53:05 + 
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Thanks for the hint; as issue 59185 looks a bit more complicated to fix I keep
the 3.x target for now but we will reinvestigate the effort to see if we can
switch the target to 3.0.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread superm401
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  8 10:44:40 + 
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I just want to suggest that when this is fixed, the limit be changed from 2^16
to 2^64 (not 2^32).  Planning ahead is always good...

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  8 11:04:00 + 
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Why only 64Bits and not 128? ;-)
OK, I hope you see what I mean: larger is not necessarily always better, you
must stop somewhere. And where to stop can be judged only by reasoning.

As our API to work on paragraphs make is necessary that the whole paragraph text
fits into one String variable it follows that the maximum length of a String
must match the maximum length of a paragraph. Even if I consider changing the
length of our UNO API String from 32Bit to 64Bit I don't see a clear benefit of
doing so (and the effort and pain doing this change would be huge!).

I have my doubts that using 64Bit integers for string length and indices is a
good idea as it will influence performance. Handling 64Bit variables on 32Bit
computers will result in a considerable slowdown. And what for? 32Bit will give
us paragraphs with 4,2 billion characters. Saving this uncompressed will result
in a file size of more than 8GB (2 Bytes per character) - only for one 
paragraph! 
I don't want to sacrifice performance for the ability to have paragraphs larger
than 4 billion characters what very probably never would be needed.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread jwr
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  8 11:25:12 + 
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An upper limit for paragraph lengths must always be considered as a second best
choice. Issue 83427 reports Abiword does not have this 64k-limit-problem
in any form when working with ODT files. Is it possible for OOo-tools to adopt
the same technology?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread superm401
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  8 11:28:58 + 
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I don't think 2^64 is necessary.  But I think it will be reasonable by the time
this bug is fixed, since already almost all new processors are 64-bit.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  8 11:35:44 + 
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jwr: the 16Bit limit IMHO is just a bug; in OOo's API Strings have 32Bit length,
just Writer's internal implementation (that in its beginning dates back to 1992
or so) has this limitation. Removing it is desirable but quite some work to do.

This is different for the 64Bit case. Even I we assumed that in a few years most
computers will use 64Bit machines (I doubt that - at least for everything
ourside of the western world) the other drawbacks like loss of UNO API
compatibility still remain.



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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread simos
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  8 12:50:56 + 
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Just to get an idea what 32-bit or 64-bit size paragraphs can give you:

32-bit size strings/paragraphs amount to about 16 million characters.
The Encyclopaedia Britannica has 32 volumes and 44 million words, amounting to
about 1.4 million words per volume. If we assume that each word is about 10
letters (actually it is less), then a volume of Britannica fits well into a
32-bit size string (about 14 million letters) and we have over 2 million
characters to spare.

Therefore, a 32-bit size string can fit in a volume of Encyclopaedia Britannica.
Considering that the OOo API strings are 32-bit, it would make sense to go for
32-bit. 



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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread floris_v
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  8 13:09:42 + 
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That sounds reasonable, but what if a clever person opens all volumes of the EB
into one document and deletes all paragraph markers? With computers getting more
and more powerful, that's just the kind of thing you can expect to happen sooner
or later.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread superm401
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  8 13:30:47 + 
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floris_v, that's exactly my point.  With 32-bit, it's possible to give examples
of content that wouldn't fit.  With 64-bit, it becomes absurd.  Not only can
64-bit fit the entire EB, it can fit over a billion Wikipedias (all languages
combined).

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread floris_v
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  8 17:10:59 + 
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Frankly, this whole issue confuses me. Why do you want a fixed maximum size for
a paragraph in the first place? Why do you want to store a single paragraph in a
string? IMHO that whole concept is flawed. I have in the past removed all
paragraph marks in Word documents, so that I got a document with one paragraph,
of over 64 Kb, and no problem at all. I'm not sure anymore why I needed to do
that, only that I did, and that it was very useful. Apparently the programmers
of Word didn't need a max length for paragraphs, and if they didn't, then why do
you?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread simos
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  8 16:56:24 + 
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Guys, we have to put this in perspective.
My point was that 32-bit is just enough for a new limit for the size of a single
paragraph. I feel that 32-bit size for a single paragraph is fine.

If we try to push for 64-bit, my very good guess is that this issue will get
stalled and not resolved in the near future.

Since the OOo API for strings uses 32-bit numbers for the size, it appears
easier to get 32-bit paragraph sizes.

In typesetting terms, it looks like a fringe case to demand from a desktop text
editor to handle a single paragraph that consists of more than a volume of the
Encyclopaedia Britannica. 

It looks like a better strategy to focus on getting 32-bit paragraph sizes,
because the next option (still 16-bit size but just complain when going over the
limit) may not be ideal for the examples shown above.

If the string size is 32-bit and you use strings to represent paragraphs, then
in order to go to 64-bit paragraph size you need to make too many changes in the
program logic, check for regressions, etc, which does not appear to happen.

It would make sense to go for 64-bit sizes when the basic data types of OOo are
of 64-bit. This might happen in the next years, which would be a more
appropriate time to ask for 64-bit paragraphs as well.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread gnustavo
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  8 19:14:43 + 
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Folks, can we move that discussion elsewhere? The poor developers that later on
will work on that issue will have problems to find relevant information in this
chat.

It's clear that 64KB for a paragraph is not enough and the OOo UNO API already
uses 32Bit whereever text is retrieved from a text object (e.g. paragraphs,
portions, selections etc.). This is not related to how a paragraph stores its
text internally. This way how the text is stored in the implementation is not
the problem of this issue. 

We have an *internal C++ API* that is limited to 16Bit and *this* must be fixed.
And the problem is that this API is so widespread in OOo. 

The *external API* (UNO API) uses 32Bit and this will not be changed without a
valid reason. The ability to store the whole Encyclopedia Britannica, the
Wikepedia and the whole Google cache into a single paragraph is *not* a valid
reason.

So please try to add only comments that describe new, currently unknown
situations where the 64KB limit bites users (situations that are not described
in this issue or its duplicates). Thank you.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-08 Thread kpalagin
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov  9 06:52:44 + 
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Here is another data-loss issue - 59185.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-07 Thread superm401
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov  7 20:41:40 + 
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I've filed Issue 83427 (http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83427),
which addresses the data loss issue.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-06 Thread mike_hall
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov  6 16:41:31 + 
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Was waiting to see if someone more experienced would volunteer... 

I'm happy to have a go at creating issues for the interim options over the next
two weeks. Comments on them would be appreciated in due course.



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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-06 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov  6 17:24:51 + 
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Excellent! So in case we have reproducable scenarios where either OOo crashes or
document content gets lost unnoticed we should be able prevent the disaster and
I will make sure that this will be fixed as soon as possible.

I'm sorry to disappoint users wanting to work with huge paragraphs, but I can't
help. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-06 Thread ohallot
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov  6 19:15:38 + 
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That is very easy to prove that contents get lost unoticed. On the attached
document (LongParagraphIllness.odt), go to page 15 (or last page) and remove the
paragraph ending, joining it with the following.

The second paragraph (or part of it) is lost with no further notice. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-06 Thread ohallot
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Created an attachment (id=49478)
very long paragraph sample


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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-05 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov  5 14:17:24 + 
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I understand that this issue is a killer for a few users. But as the defect is
in some central code (the old tools String class) fixing it would require to
change 90% of OOo's code base (wild guess). Even if we agreed on fixing the
problem for Writer (and I'm still not doing this) all other developers are
concerned as well. 

It would took several months in nearly all projects to do the change and fix all
warnings and bugs that slip in while doing the change. In the meantime nothing
else can be done on the code as the risk to run into merge problems is huge.
This would be an effective standstill of development for several months. 

I still don't see that this is judged by the undeniable benefit for a small
percentage of the user base. And especially we can't do it now, in the middle of
a lot of work that has already started. So the target is still valid as this
means that 3.0 is impossible.




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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-05 Thread mba
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-05 Thread jwr
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov  5 14:30:06 + 
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I fully understand this problem cannot be solved soon.
However I could imagine some intermediate options like:
- a solution to prevent crashes
- a solution to prevent data losses 
- a solution to warn users 
Maybe these intermediate options are helpful or sufficient for 90% of the users.
Regards -Hans-

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-05 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov  5 15:34:50 + 
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Sure, I'm happy with doing that. Unfortunately this issue basically is not about
fixing the potential data loss and so we have to work on that outside of it.

If someone volunteered to dig out the the crashes and data losses and moved them
to one or more separate issues we could try to fix them. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-02 Thread asrail
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-02 Thread cornouws
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-11-01 Thread renatoyamane
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  1 21:56:48 + 
2007 ---
Can someone change Target Milestone?
This bug is very important because can LOST data and I think that OOo Later
target is very obscure (more 1 month? 1 year? 100 years?)

Resume: All law-offices need write actas, and this documents is writen in only 1
paragraph (it is a rule), so when write more than 65534 characters, we LOST 
data!

Regards,
Renato

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-10-20 Thread regina
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Oct 20 17:37:43 + 
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*** Issue 82809 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-10-20 Thread renatoyamane
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Oct 21 00:48:03 + 
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I have a doubt.
Here we have any OOo developer reading this issue?
This bug is very older (4 years)!
I follow other older bug
(http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=24969), with more than 3
YEARS, and when a OOo Developer found it, he fix the problem in only 3 DAYS!

Regards,
Renato

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-09-14 Thread simos
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-06-20 Thread mike_hall
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|vion,yunkong' |l,mux2005,vion,yunkong'





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 20 10:34:51 + 
2007 ---
Another scenario where this can happen is doing certain global edits to improve
formatting of a long document, which often require the temporary replacement of
end of paragraph marks to create a single paragraph document, which is highly
likely to exceed the limit. At present, I have to go back to Word in this 
situation.

Plenty of concern about this issue, which as it involves data loss should
arguably be P2 rather than P3. Target of OOo Later effectively is 'never'.
Please consider changing target at worst to 3.0, preferably to 2.4.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-04-28 Thread vion
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-04-20 Thread jwr
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 20 08:40:04 + 
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US- and EU-gouvernments decided to use Open Format for all official documents
including deeds (law-documents - acta) and patents ? - OO will have to cope
with these documents or US- and EU-gouvernments will prescribe some other 
tools...

Regards -Hans-

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-04-12 Thread es
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-03-25 Thread kpalagin
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  CC|'allsorts46,baumux,chris_m|'allsorts46,baumux,chris_m
|ux,clutz,mux2005,yunkong' |ux,clutz,kpalagin,mux2005,
|  |yunkong'

Priority|P4|P3





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar 25 16:41:44 + 
2007 ---
Dear developers,
judging by number of duplicates the problem seems to be affecting a number of 
our customers. This issue is especially important in academic environment, 
where authors must follow the rules and simply can't insert paragraph breaks 
at whim of their wordprocessor.

The problem is aggravated by the fact that Writer simply looses data (without 
Undo) if user attempts to remove extra paragraph break.
(Needless to say that our competitors do not have this problem).

Upping the priority because our current behavior can cause data loss.
Please consider targeting for 2.3.
Thanks a lot for your attention.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2007-02-07 Thread kpalagin
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-12-04 Thread mru
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-10-01 Thread aziem
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Oct  1 14:57:16 -0700 
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On OOo 2.0.4rc2 Linux, the statistics are wrong for the LongPara document.  The
statistics show 0 word and 0 characters.  Also, it is easy to hang
OpenOffice.org by using a combination of copy and paste, normal typing, and
backspace to create a really long paragraph (starting from a blank document).  

If this should be a separate issue, let me know.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-09-20 Thread pmartel60
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What|Old value |New value

  CC|'allsorts46,baumux,chris_m|'allsorts46,baumux,chris_m
|ux,clutz,mux2005,pmartel60|ux,clutz,mux2005,yunkong'
|,yunkong' |





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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-09-18 Thread es
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-08-28 Thread baumux
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What|Old value |New value

  CC|'allsorts46,chris_mux,clut|'allsorts46,baumux,chris_m
|z,mux2005,pmartel60,yunkon|ux,clutz,mux2005,pmartel60
|g'|,yunkong'





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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-08-11 Thread mux2005
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What|Old value |New value

  CC|'allsorts46,pmartel60,yunk|'allsorts46,chris_mux,clut
|ong'  |z,mux2005,pmartel60,yunkon
|  |g'





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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-08-11 Thread renatoyamane
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 11 16:50:57 -0700 
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Cloph,
you have an e-mail @openoffice.org, so I think that you work on OpenOffice.Org.
Unhappyly, OpenOffice.Org have so ignorant employees as you!

One more data:
ALL law-offices need write atas (I don´t know translate this word to english, 
but ata is a word from latim ACTA and it means a write record about what 
was made in meeting)

Understand me?

This document (acta) need writen in only one paragraph (it´s a rule!), and in 
most cases this paragraph need more than 65k characters, so is impossible use 
OpenOffice.Org.

So, I think this information it answers your question 02.

Best regards,
Renato Yamane



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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-08-10 Thread cloph
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-08-04 Thread allsorts46
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1st: This kind of attitude is extremely unhelpful for anything. Obviously, the
majority of OO's end users are not capable of writing patches - that's what the
developers do. Nobody suggested it was easy, but writing an office suite isn't
easy either. Looking at some of the features which *are* being given priority,
it makes more sense to me that something as fundamental as being able to handle
text properly should be among them. Paying someone to provide a patch would
defeat one of the major advantages of OO - it's free. If I have to pay money for
a word processor not to lose my work, I'd rather spend it on purchasing a
commercial package of higher quality. Also, the longer this problem is ignored,
the more difficult it will become to change later. 

2nd: I think this is rather irrelevant. What percentage of users need Obscure
Feature X? A word processor should handle text, as much text as a user wants and
in the way the user wants to format it it - everything else is second place.

3rd: However, any attempt to rejoin the split paragraphs results in immediate
loss of data, without warning, and without any undo information being saved.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-08-02 Thread cloph
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1st: If you think changing this is so easy, then provide a patch or pay someone
to provide a patch
2nd: Tell me what percentage of users need such long paragraphs.
3rd: when importing, the text is not eliminated, but split into several 
paragraphs.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-07-23 Thread renatoyamane
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What|Old value |New value

  CC|'pmartel60'   |'pmartel60,yunkong'





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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-07-23 Thread renatoyamane
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What|Old value |New value

  CC|'pmartel60,yunkong'   |'allsorts46,pmartel60,yunk
|  |ong'





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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2006-07-23 Thread renatoyamane
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 23 18:11:11 -0700 
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This bug have 3 YEARS!?!
Some friends have problems with this bug, because some documents need to be
written in only 1 paragraph and this is impossible with OOo Writer.
The problem is still greater when documents writer in MS Office Word are
converted to OOo Writer, because when exceeding 65534 characters, the text is
eliminated!
Please, don't forget this bug!

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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2005-04-06 Thread ataraxia
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   Attachment data|  |Created an attachment
  |  |(id=24725) An example
  |  |document where it is not
  |  |possible to write anything
  |  |more





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Created an attachment (id=24725)
An example document where it is not possible to write anything more


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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2005-02-09 Thread mru
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[sw-issues] [Issue 17171] Paragraph cannot be longer than 65534 characters

2005-01-20 Thread cloph
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