[Alpine-l] Pacific Bulb Society
This is just to announce that the wiki and list of the Pacific Bulb SOciety are temporarily inaccessible because the server is moving. It is hoped that this valuable reference resource will soon be back. Jane McGary ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Eranthis hyemalis - lawns
Brian Whyer wrote, I saw a recommendation recently to use Eranthis as a spring flower in lawns, as it was largely over before any mowing was likely. I have only seen it in grass in very large numbers in Welford Park, in the Lambourne Valley in the UK http://www.worldisround.com/articles/10902/photo66.htmlhttp://www.worldisround.com/articles/10902/photo66.html Usually it is grown as a light woodland plant and even here it is largely under mature trees. But the question is in view of its toxicity, in a domestic situation, how is it with pets? I would like to try it as it is so easy to grow from fresh seed but am concerned about dogs bruising the leaves and cleaning their paws, and maybe later eating the seed if it is not mown off before it sheds. Anyone with pets tried it? There is a great deal of Eranthis in beds and lawns at a local public garden, Bishop's Close (not American fakery: it was the home of Portland's Episcopal [Anglican] bishop). I've grown it, though in lesser quantities, for many years, as well as many other toxic plants such as colchicum and hellebores, through which my numerous large dogs have walked all their mostly long lives, and have never observed any stomach upsets that might be traced to plants. The only thing they didn't walk on (more than once) is Maihuenia poeppigii, a mat-forming Patagonian cactus with horrible spines. That said, the breed I have, Alaskan Malamutes, seems to have very good instincts about not eating toxic vegetation, even though they're almost as omnivorous as bears (they gobble berries and dig up carrots, and once I caught one carrying a ripe pumpkin from the garden to the kennel to enjoy it in front of his pals). Jane McGary Portland, Oregon, USA ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Eranthis hyemalis - lawns
Hello Brian, We have had Jack Russells for over 28 years and never a case of poisoning of any sort, at least not that we were aware of. But, then, our pets, like us, are not vegans...smile. I think this a wonderful idea, Brian. I have quite a bit of eranthis growing in perennial borders, the woodland gardens etc. and they spread almost to the point of being considere invasive. I certainly would not plant eranthis where there might someday when we are gone, be pasturing area, but I plan to seed around as much as I can where there are daffodils in big patches all over the hill. I make my husband mow around these areas until nearly the end of June, so the eranthis foliage and seeds would certainly have time to do their thing. Thank you for the great idea. Best, Marcia Brown Meigs Ithaca, NY USA Z5 Sub zero deg. F due for the next two nights but at least 6 in. out of snow out there. In a message dated 1/22/2011 10:49:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, brian.wh...@btinternet.com writes: I saw a recommendation recently to use Eranthis as a spring flower in lawns, as it was largely over before any mowing was likely. I have only seen it in grass in very large numbers in Welford Park, in the Lambourne Valley in the UK _http://www.worldisround.com/articles/10902/photo66.html_ (http://www.worldisround.com/articles/10902/photo66.html) Usually it is grown as a light woodland plant and even here it is largely under mature trees. But the question is in view of its toxicity, in a domestic situation, how is it with pets? I would like to try it as it is so easy to grow from fresh seed but am concerned about dogs bruising the leaves and cleaning their paws, and maybe later eating the seed if it is not mown off before it sheds. Anyone with pets tried it? Brian Whyer, Buckinghamshire, England, zone ~8 ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Eranthis hyemalis - lawns
Lucky you, Marcia! I'd love them to behave like that here but there are only a couple of places to their liking. I've had a lot of success moviing them right after bloom and dividing them. It's quite a nice spread now, just not where I can see it easily. Anne Spiegel Zone 5a(?) mid-Hudson valley, New York -Original Message- From: arisae...@aol.com To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl Sent: Sat, Jan 22, 2011 1:23 pm Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Eranthis hyemalis - lawns Hello Brian, We have had Jack Russells for over 28 years and never a case of poisoning of any sort, at least not that we were aware of. But, then, our pets, like us, are not vegans...smile. I think this a wonderful idea, Brian. I have quite a bit of eranthis growing in perennial borders, the woodland gardens etc. and they spread almost to the point of being considere invasive. I certainly would not plant eranthis where there might someday when we are gone, be pasturing area, but I plan to seed around as much as I can where there are daffodils in big patches all over the hill. I make my husband mow around these areas until nearly the end of June, so the eranthis foliage and seeds would certainly have time to do their thing. Thank you for the great idea. Best, Marcia Brown Meigs Ithaca, NY USA Z5 Sub zero deg. F due for the next two nights but at least 6 in. out of snow out there. In a message dated 1/22/2011 10:49:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, brian.wh...@btinternet.com writes: I saw a recommendation recently to use Eranthis as a spring flower in lawns, as it was largely over before any mowing was likely. I have only seen it in grass in very large numbers in Welford Park, in the Lambourne Valley in the UK http://www.worldisround.com/articles/10902/photo66.html Usually it is grown as a light woodland plant and even here it is largely under mature trees. But the question is in view of its toxicity, in a domestic situation, how is it with pets? I would like to try it as it is so easy to grow from fresh seed but am concerned about dogs bruising the leaves and cleaning their paws, and maybe later eating the seed if it is not mown off before it sheds. Anyone with pets tried it? Brian Whyer, Buckinghamshire, England, zone ~8 ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l ___ lpine-l mailing list lpin...@science.uu.nl ttp://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Eranthis hyemalis - lawns
Hello Anne, Well, in all fairness, although they seem able to seed just about anywhere, eranthis seems to grown best for me in at least fairly moist, soil, in the woodland, amended with a lot of rotted leaves from the dump and mulched with woodchips(applied later in the season). Dear old mentor, Prof. Bill Hamilton, brought his back from England where he was stationed during WWll and when he passed away in the 80's, his place was covered solidly with sheets of glorious gold to welcome Springtime. The new owners tried desperately to get rid of the eranthis, if you can imagine. But, I will admit that the foliage tends to obliterate small Spring ephemeral treasures. Can you imagine trying to get all the little bulblets out of vast swathes of pachysandra and such. Sometimes Nature has sweet revenge...smile. That is why I am a little alarmed at this point and beginning to try to remove large amounts of it. I will put some way down in the woodlands and hope that they only grow downhile as many plants seem to prefer doing. Bill always said that the best place to grown them was under shrubberies. and actually, those locations, although at the bottoms of slopes, were rather dry. I often tell people that when they choose to plant something that they love, they should look out of their windows and see what they might like to see. Unfortunately I am not great at following my own advice. Best, Marcia Meigs in Ithaca, NY USA In a message dated 1/22/2011 1:34:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, zan...@aol.com writes: Lucky you, Marcia! I'd love them to behave like that here but there are only a couple of places to their liking. I've had a lot of success moviing them right after bloom and dividing them. It's quite a nice spread now, just not where I can see it easily. Anne Spiegel Zone 5a(?) mid-Hudson valley, New York -Original Message- From: arisae...@aol.com To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl Sent: Sat, Jan 22, 2011 1:23 pm Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Eranthis hyemalis - lawns Hello Brian, We have had Jack Russells for over 28 years and never a case of poisoning of any sort, at least not that we were aware of. But, then, our pets, like us, are not vegans...smile. I think this a wonderful idea, Brian. I have quite a bit of eranthis growing in perennial borders, the woodland gardens etc. and they spread almost to the point of being considere invasive. I certainly would not plant eranthis where there might someday when we are gone, be pasturing area, but I plan to seed around as much as I can where there are daffodils in big patches all over the hill. I make my husband mow around these areas until nearly the end of June, so the eranthis foliage and seeds would certainly have time to do their thing. Thank you for the great idea. Best, Marcia Brown Meigs Ithaca, NY USA Z5 Sub zero deg. F due for the next two nights but at least 6 in. out of snow out there. In a message dated 1/22/2011 10:49:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _brian.whyer@btinternet.com_ (mailto:brian.wh...@btinternet.com) writes: I saw a recommendation recently to use Eranthis as a spring flower in lawns, as it was largely over before any mowing was likely. I have only seen it in grass in very large numbers in Welford Park, in the Lambourne Valley in the UK _http://www.worldisround.com/articles/10902/photo66.html_ (http://www.worldisround.com/articles/10902/photo66.html) Usually it is grown as a light woodland plant and even here it is largely under mature trees. But the question is in view of its toxicity, in a domestic situation, how is it with pets? I would like to try it as it is so easy to grow from fresh seed but am concerned about dogs bruising the leaves and cleaning their paws, and maybe later eating the seed if it is not mown off before it sheds. Anyone with pets tried it? Brian Whyer, Buckinghamshire, England, zone ~8 ___ Alpine-l mailing list _alpin...@science.uu.nl_ (mailto:Alpine-l@science.uu.nl) _http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l_ (http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l) ___ Alpine-l mailing list _alpin...@science.uu.nl_ (mailto:Alpine-l@science.uu.nl) _http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l_ (http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l) ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
[Alpine-l] Penstemon Propagation
Thanks to Larry, Kyle, and Mark for the information. I'll definitely give their expert advice a try. Last question: would immediately after petal drop be the best time for cuttings or can one clip them earlier in the season? There are times that it feels like 500F out here in the summer. However, apparently the Alpine-L system does not like superscripts. Dave Nelson Richland, Washington ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Eranthis hyemalis - lawns
How long does Eranthis take from seed to flower ? -- Larry Wallace Cincinnati ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Penstemon Propagation
I've found Penstemons to be very easy to root in late fall. I typically take cuttings in November or December, treat them with Dip Gro and set them in a mix of 75/25 perlite/peat on bottom heat in the shade in the greenhouse and water them about every other day. I do not use any other fungicides or chemicals etc. You could probably still take them now and have success - I think cool weather is the best as long as you can put them on bottom heat. Even if that isn't an option, keep them moist and they might still root eventually. Ian Barclay / The Desert Northwest PO Box 3475 Sequim, WA 98382 www.desertnorthwest.com From: daveand...@frontier.com To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:34:36 -0800 Subject: [Alpine-l] Penstemon Propagation Thanks to Larry, Kyle, and Mark for the information. I'll definitely give their expert advice a try. Last question: would immediately after petal drop be the best time for cuttings or can one clip them earlier in the season? ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Eranthis hyemalis - lawns
About 3 years in my experience. Brian Whyer, UK --- On Sat, 22/1/11, Larry Wallace uuall...@gmail.com wrote: How long does Eranthis take from seed to flower ? -- Larry Wallace Cincinnati ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
