Re: [Alpine-l] Spring is just around the corner (off topic)
Larry. Thats kind of like asking 'Wouldn't it be easier to just have silk flowers and Fake Plants, stuck in a bowl of cat litter? Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, MCN Maine Zone 5 --- On Sun, 2/20/11, Larry Wallace uuall...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it be easier to grow imitation maple ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenugreek -- Larry Wallace Cincinnati -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Spring is just around the corner (off topic)
I was being silly. I am old enough to remember when generic syrup had 2% maple syrup. -- Larry Wallace Cincinnati ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Anybody on this list going to Nottingham in April?
Hi I am not going to the meetings, maybe the flower show, but you can check historical weather here http://www.tinyurls.co.uk/B25611 or http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/maps/city?WEEK=04MM=04YY=2010WMO=03354LANG=enSID=03354381dcb31edeec786e95ee721e643ed19aART=MAXCONT=ukukR=150NOREGION=1LEVEL=150REGION=0002LAND=MID in full. What are air-conditioners? Only needed in cars here, for a few days in summer. Brian Whyer, Buckinghamshire, England, zone ~8 --- On Sun, 20/2/11, Ilse Burch i...@oh2garden.com wrote: I am going to Nottingham in April for the Interim conference. It is the first one I have been to, and I am looking forward to it quite a bit! It occurs to me that some of the people on this list might also be going, and if possible, I would like to meet you and at least say hello. It would be good to put a face to the email addresses. :-) I also wonder if anybody might have an idea of what sort of weather to expect in England in April. A friend told me that it might be hot there, such that one needs air conditioners. Another friend said that she lived in England for three years and she never needed an air conditioner. I am trying to pack clothing, and I am sorely confused. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks a lot!___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Anybody on this list going to Nottingham in April?
I went once in May. My husband enjoyed himself in warm pubs while I was frequently soaked to the skin going around famous gardens. So, I'd suggest raingear. Diane Whitehead Victoria B.C., Canada On 20-Feb-11, at 10:08 AM, Ilse Burch wrote: I also wonder if anybody might have an idea of what sort of weather to expect in England in April. A friend told me that it might be hot there, such that one needs air conditioners. ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
[Alpine-l] Understory for bamboo
I am a dedicated bamboo-avoider, but I have a friend who loves it even though his garden is small, and he has several of the more delicate-appearing species there. He's asked me for suggestions for low flowering plants that could be grown along with it. I can't summon up any mental pictures of anything growing under or among bamboo. What does in nature? What could? Roscoea? Epimedium? Arisaema? Anemone? Bergenia? Please let me know if you've seen wild communities including bamboo or if you've actually got anything to grow among it. Thanks, Jane McGary Portland, Oregon ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Understory for bamboo
I don't recall anything in bamboo forests I've been in. Even dwarf bamboo seemed to obliterate the competition. The good thing about bamboo is that its roots are shallow so barriers don't have to be massive. Also, plants that are over-run can survive. When I had a backhoe in to remove my bamboo, an arisaema that had not emerged aboveground in twelve years came up and flowered. Diane Whitehead Victoria, British Columbia, Canada maritime zone 8, cool Mediterranean climate mild rainy winters, mild dry summers ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Anybody on this list going to Nottingham in April?
Hi Ilse. I know of a few members of this wonderful List who will be present in Nottingham and several from your side of the pond. As Martin says, the days may well feature April showers and mild temperatures (but this is the U.K. - shorts and t-shirts may also be needed (or scarves and gloves, unfortunately) ... we have learned over many years to take each day (and it's accompanying weather) as it comes! I would suggest a fleece for any evening strolls, a fold-up brolly, sunglasses, some stout shoes for wet or slippery pavements and ENORMOUS memory cards for your camera. I look forward to meeting as many members of this list as possible and wish you all safe and trouble-free journeys to the U.K. Cheers, Cliff ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Understory for bamboo
I am a dedicated bamboo-avoider, Dear Jane and all. I am a dedicated bamboo lover - not easy in my climate, but I have two small groves of mostly Phyllostachys species and cvs. and isolated plantings of clumpers (Mostly Fargesia sp.) that all do fairly badly here. We groom our groves to have a natural bamboo carpet of fallen leaves, but I have seen many things growing under open bamboos- NOT clumping species. My best recall are Iris tectorum and Iris confusa if you have the right climate, but I suppose I japonica would do as well. Roscoea, but I do not recall which species- fairly large growing -18 inches or more tall. Various Asarum - again if you have the climate. At one time I had a bit of Meconopsis cambrica scattered in, other species may like the open spaces. I think Pollia japonica does OK too. Of your thoughts, only Epimedium might be suited although I have never seen them growing together in China. The problem in most gardens is trying to force bamboos into too small a space. I think a 20 ft x 20 ft patch would be minimal for a small grove with a path down the middle. Lots more plants enjoy the edges giving them exposure from a single side during the day. This can be a plus. Around the edges almost anything grows from Iris and peonies to hibiscus, Musa, vegetables, herbs, annuals and narcissus (coming up now). The gardener must be attentive to edges and boundaries. We mow and clip each spring and that covers most growth. BestJim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph.816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F + ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Anybody on this list going to Nottingham in April?
I will be there and look forward to meeting other Alpine-L'ers. At the Edinburgh Conference I seem to remember we took a group photo. As has been said - it would be nice to put faces to emails. Weather - just April showers and all the stuff in-between. Rick Lambert Northampton ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Understory for bamboo
That was going to be my suggestion -- Asarum. Russell I have also heard that Asarum grow in bamboo stands, although I haven't tried it there myself. Russell Stafford Odyssey Bulbs PO Box 382 South Lancaster, MA 01561 508-335-8106 www.odysseybulbs.com ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
[Alpine-l] Anybody on this list going to Nottingham in April?
[Alpine-l] Anybody on this list going to Nottingham in April? Ilse Burch Sun, 20 Feb 2011 10:05:08 -0800 Hello Ilse, I'll be attending Alpines 2011 in Nottingham, as will my husband ( just as well, he's one of the speakers!) We'll look forward to seeing you and all the other travellers there. I don't think it should get too cold -as some of the guys have already mentioned, rain is more likely to be a factor Britain can do April Showers in a big way! It is most likely to be reasonably mild and rather pleasant though so with average attention to wet weather gear and shoes you shouldn't need to pack too many extreme weather clothes. There will be quite a contingent of Scots going South for this event.. .. it seems more than ten years since the last gathering in Edinburgh for Alpines 2001 so the excitiment level is high. I think some of those attending have been to them all and then there are the Students who have been awarded scholarships to attend for whom this will be their first international gathering of this kind. I remember the great fun that was had by all the delegates at the previous Alpines events I've attended and we are looking forward very much to meeting old friends and new in Nottingham in April... travel safely and we'll see you there! M No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3455 - Release Date: 02/20/11 07:35:00 ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Understory for bamboo
Hi Diane, I am surprised that you feel one doesn't need to put up much of a barrier. I bought a bamboo from a local widely known plantsman. I cannot remember the name except that it was viariegated and delicate. I planted it in a bottomless pot about a foot tall about twenty or more years ago, and it quickly traveled...expletive. We are still digging out sprouts here and there after trying to remove it about 17 years ago...smile. I adore bamboo, but will not plant it here. Beeg blizzard predicted in the northern plains and it is supposed to hit us here as well...sigh. A little fed up, but even more upset over the deer who are camping out all over the slopes here and broke through the netting fence. Of course, the first thing they attacked was an exquisite fastigiate chamacyparis. The bottom half is now five inches thick and the top a foot thick...sigh. I am thinking a permanent fence from my old age money. We shoot at the deer with what seems to be a very ineffective pellet gun. They keep coming back and while I feel sorry for them as I realize they are hungry. I am conflicted...smile. I have to think that our UK friends do not have a deer problem? Probably dear little hedgehogs and badgers? Best from currently frigid central NY State. I dream of galanthus in full blow carpeting the landscape in the UK as we never see it here. Best, Marcia Brown Meigs Ithaca, NY, USA Cheerio, Marcia In a message dated 2/20/2011 2:19:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, volta...@islandnet.com writes: I don't recall anything in bamboo forests I've been in. Even dwarf bamboo seemed to obliterate the competition. The good thing about bamboo is that its roots are shallow so barriers don't have to be massive. Also, plants that are over-run can survive. When I had a backhoe in to remove my bamboo, an arisaema that had not emerged aboveground in twelve years came up and flowered. Diane Whitehead Victoria, British Columbia, Canada maritime zone 8, cool Mediterranean climate mild rainy winters, mild dry summers ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Understory for bamboo
On 20-Feb-11, at 3:06 PM, arisae...@aol.com wrote: I am surprised that you feel one doesn't need to put up much of a barrier. Right. They'll move sideways sure enough - they'll go under a sidewalk and start growing on the other side. To control it, I used to use a pick to dig under the roots at the edge of the patch, then grabbed the edge of the mat, and pulled it up. We used to eat a lot of new shoots, too, and Chinese and Japanese friends would come over to harvest them as well. Heavy plastic will do fine for a barrier, and it should be about 60 cm deep - a couple of feet. This was fine for my Phyllostachys, which was almost two stories tall, but not enormous like timber bamboo. You'd probably need it deeper for that. Diane Whitehead Victoria, British Columbia, Canada cool mediterranean climate moderate dry summers, moderate rainy winters 68 cm rain (27 in) ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Juno Iris pix -- more signs of spring
Wow, Paige! What a stunner. Very different from the nicolai and rosenbachiana we grow out here... We find them very sensitive to moisture, so growing them in the Pacific Northwest is a tour de force As some on this list are aware, I do a blog for the botanic gardens, the last one of which was on this very subject... http://www.botanicgardensblog.com/2011/02/18/and-even-more-early-blossoms/ And I just did one on Sternbergia candida (which is blooming modestly at my house but a bit more ostentatiously for Bill Adams of Sunscapes Nursery in Pueblo)one I don't think you should miss! http://prairiebreak.blogspot.com/2011/02/candid-comments.html Headed to Seattle tomorrow for the better part of the week to judge their flower show and give a bunch of presentations: perhaps I will meet someone on the list there? Panayoti - Original Message - From: Pacific Rim pa...@hillkeep.ca To: the Electronic Rock Garden Society Alpine-L; postings copyright by authors. alpine-l@science.uu.nl Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 6:15:23 PM Subject: [Alpine-l] Juno Iris pix -- more signs of spring Dear all: There's something in the air. Yesterday all my Iris rosenbachiana Darwas strain were short green noses. Overnight one shot up and opened. Not to be outdone, one of my Iris rosenbachiana / nicolai promicrospecies produced two more flowers out of a hat. Photographs are here. http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=alpenpix Why not show us signs of spring where you are? It is astoundingly easy to upload pictures to Alpenpix. The Upload button is on the left. http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=alpenpix Paige ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Juno Iris pix -- more signs of spring
Wow, Paige! What a stunner. Very different from the nicolai and rosenbachiana we grow out here... We find them very sensitive to moisture, so growing them in the Pacific Northwest is a tour de force Panayoti, you are such a diplomat. I don't care if it rains or freezes Long as I've got my plastic ... greenhouse. Quite a few Junos thrive in the rain out here on the Wet coast: aucheri, bucharica, magnifica, vicaria and their crosses, for starters. Storms might thrash a flower or two, but there are more. The thing is to plant these irises either on very steep slopes or in raised beds of road mulch or coarse sand, and let rain be their only irrigation. Headed to Seattle tomorrow for the better part of the week to judge their flower show and give a bunch of presentations: perhaps I will meet someone on the list there? All: Panayoti's talks at the Northwest Flower and Garden Show are listed here http://www.gardenshow.com/seminars/featured-speaker/ One is How the Mossy NW Can Use Arid Mountain Plants. I would lve to be a fly on the wall at that talk, Panayoti. I'm sure you're on an interesting track, because we have sagebrush (Artemisia tridentata), rabbitbrush (Ericameria nauseosa, aka Chrysothamnus nauseosus), Opuntia fragilis and lots of dryland bulbs in our rainswept garden. We're still not ready for visitors, but I do long to show you what we're doing here, and benefit from your crazed expertise. Something to look forward to. Paige ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
