RE: [Alsa-devel] CVS doesn't compile

2003-07-28 Thread Markus Bollinger
Sorry,
I didnt know that compilers can get angry with [].
Use the attached patch.

What compiler version are you using ?

Markus.


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Sent:   Sun 7/27/2003 11:36 AM
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Subject:[Alsa-devel] CVS doesn't compile


Sorry to say,

but CVS doesn't compile! Building the mixart driver fails:

make[3]: Entering directory /usr/local/src/alsa-cvs/alsa-driver/pci/mixart'
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE=1 -I/usr/local/src/alsa-cvs/alsa-driver/include
-I/lib/modules/2.4.19-rc1/build/include -O2 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2
-march=i686 -malign-functions=4 -DLINUX -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes
-fomit-frame-pointer -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common
-pipe -DALSA_BUILD  -DKBUILD_BASENAME=mixart   -c -o mixart.o mixart.c
In file included from mixart.c:35:
mixart_core.h:292: field streams' has incomplete type
make[3]: *** [mixart.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory /usr/local/src/alsa-cvs/alsa-driver/pci/mixart'
make[2]: *** [_modsubdir_mixart] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory /usr/local/src/alsa-cvs/alsa-driver/pci'
make[1]: *** [compile] Error 1


martin


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--- pci/mixart-cvs/mixart_core.h	2003-07-22 15:39:10.0 +0200
+++ pci/mixart/mixart_core.h	2003-07-28 09:30:19.0 +0200
@@ -289,7 +289,7 @@
 struct mixart_timer_notify
 {
 	u32  stream_count;
-	mixart_sample_pos_t  streams[];
+	mixart_sample_pos_t  streams[MIXART_MAX_STREAM_PER_CARD * MIXART_MAX_CARDS];
 } __attribute__((packed));
 
 


Re: [Alsa-devel] [ANN] hdspmixer-1.1

2003-07-28 Thread Takashi Iwai
Hi Thomas,

At Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:44:57 +0200 (CEST),
Thomas Charbonnel wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 This is already a bugfix release :
 
 * Fixes a typo for Digiface and H9652 cards in HDSPMixerSelector.cxx
   (caused a crash on startup)
 * Fixes a menu messing bug in Submix handling
 * Fixes FLTK detection in configure
 * Fixes a bug preventing full reset to factory settings
 
 It's available from:
 http://www.undata.org/~thomas/

please let me know if you think it's ok to merge into alsa-tools
cvs tree.  i'll do it asap.


Takashi


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Re: [Alsa-devel] [ANN] hdspmixer-1.1

2003-07-28 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:24:06 +0200,
I wrote:
 
 Hi Thomas,
 
 At Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:44:57 +0200 (CEST),
 Thomas Charbonnel wrote:
  
  Hi,
  
  This is already a bugfix release :
  
  * Fixes a typo for Digiface and H9652 cards in HDSPMixerSelector.cxx
(caused a crash on startup)
  * Fixes a menu messing bug in Submix handling
  * Fixes FLTK detection in configure
  * Fixes a bug preventing full reset to factory settings
  
  It's available from:
  http://www.undata.org/~thomas/
 
 please let me know if you think it's ok to merge into alsa-tools
 cvs tree.  i'll do it asap.

well, i included the version 1.1 into the cvs alsa-tools tree right
now, since we'll release the new tarball soon.

i hope you don't mind...


Takashi


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[Alsa-devel] SPDIF and alsa, does it works for all cards/receivers?

2003-07-28 Thread Gregoire Favre
Hello list ;-)

I have a stupid 5.1 system from Hercules which don't work perfectly in
the sense, that when I connect it to a SBlive with a coaxial connexion
it works (I can hear lots of noise, but my cable is very bad), my
receiver goes in Dolby Digital mode with Dolby Digital signal and go
back to Stereo mode without Dolby Digital signal: fine with SBlive.

Unfortunately, my motherboard has an integrated intel8x0 with optical
SPDIF, and I can't by any way play any Dolby Digital signal with it, I
can only hardly plays with the http://bitstreamout.sourceforge.net/
which forward the signal from DVB and sent it to the soundcard SPDIF,
then my receiver turns in Dolby Digital on Dolby Digital signal, and
stay in this mode even after the end of the Dolby Digital signal... and
then refuse to play anything at all???

And even worse: I have a Digital 7.1 card, with it I cannot put my
receiver in 5.1 at all???

I just copy an expert, Dr. Werner Fink, as he spoke in the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list about a problem with AC3overDVB:

As long as the hardware on the DVB cards are not able to put
the 16bit none audio PCM data stream into a 32bit none audio
S/P-DIF transport stream all receivers which uses the bit flags
of the S/P-DIF transport stream for identifying none audio
loose.  All S/P-DIF data get from the DVB card to not have the
none audio bit set.  AFAIK this is a hardware bug (or better
this is the information I've got from TT) ...

Is there such limitation with either my integrated intel8x0 or with
the cs46xx card or???

Or is it only ALSA limitation (for example, with the Digifire 7.1 it
works under windows...)?

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Re: [Alsa-devel] SPDIF and alsa, does it works for all cards/receivers?

2003-07-28 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Gregoire Favre wrote:
Hello list ;-)

I have a stupid 5.1 system from Hercules which don't work perfectly in
the sense, that when I connect it to a SBlive with a coaxial connexion
it works (I can hear lots of noise, but my cable is very bad), my
receiver goes in Dolby Digital mode with Dolby Digital signal and go
back to Stereo mode without Dolby Digital signal: fine with SBlive.
Unfortunately, my motherboard has an integrated intel8x0 with optical
SPDIF, and I can't by any way play any Dolby Digital signal with it, I
can only hardly plays with the http://bitstreamout.sourceforge.net/
which forward the signal from DVB and sent it to the soundcard SPDIF,
then my receiver turns in Dolby Digital on Dolby Digital signal, and
stay in this mode even after the end of the Dolby Digital signal... and
then refuse to play anything at all???
And even worse: I have a Digital 7.1 card, with it I cannot put my
receiver in 5.1 at all???
I just copy an expert, Dr. Werner Fink, as he spoke in the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list about a problem with AC3overDVB:
As long as the hardware on the DVB cards are not able to put
the 16bit none audio PCM data stream into a 32bit none audio
S/P-DIF transport stream all receivers which uses the bit flags
of the S/P-DIF transport stream for identifying none audio
loose.  All S/P-DIF data get from the DVB card to not have the
none audio bit set.  AFAIK this is a hardware bug (or better
this is the information I've got from TT) ...
Is there such limitation with either my integrated intel8x0 or with
the cs46xx card or???
Or is it only ALSA limitation (for example, with the Digifire 7.1 it
works under windows...)?
Grégoire
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You are correct, SPDIF and alsa does NOT work with all cards and all 
receivers.
Points to note: -
1) Does the receiver require non-audio bit to be set? Some do, some 
don't. My receiver does need it.
2) Does the sound card set the non-audio bit correctly when outputting 
AC3 data. The SB Live does this correctly.
3) Does the sound card output data un-modified from the PC to the SPDIF 
socket. The SB Live does interpolation on the PCM samples from the PC, 
so that the samples comming out of the SPDIF are different from the PCM 
samples from the PC. This therefore corrupts the AC3 frame (crc checks 
are done on it by the receiver) and no sound is output. (Normal stereo 
sound works because the ear cannot tell the difference between 
interpolated samples and the original samples). The alsa programmers 
have done a special work around for the SB Live problem, using something 
called the TRAM, in order to bypass the interpolators and get perfect 
AC3 output.
4) Sample rates. Some audio cards can only work at 48Khz, or only at 
44.1Khz, so outputting an AC3 signal from a DVD requires 48Khz, but 
outputting a AC3 signal from a CD requires 44.1khz. So, depending on 
where the media file with AC3 in it came from, it may or may not play.

It seems that SPDIF AC3 output is about the last feature that the alsa 
developers add when a new card is supported with alsa.
As intel8x0 is used on so many different motherboards, alsa cannot hope 
to support them all. The important issue with intel8x0 is the type of 
ac97 chip used. If you run alsamixer, in the top left corner, it will 
have Chip: . Which chip does you motherboard have.
All motherboards use different chips, and it is the programming of that 
chip that is required in order to set the non-audio bits.
Summary: -
Your problems are most likely to be (2) and (4).

Cheers
James


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Re: [Alsa-devel] [ANN] hdspmixer-1.1

2003-07-28 Thread Thomas Charbonnel
It's done (hdspconf-1.1):

http://www.undata.org/~thomas/

It fixes a small bug + an issue in card detection preventing it to work
with hdsp9652 cards. It fixes too FLTK detection in configure.

Thanks,
Thomas





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Re: [Alsa-devel] [ANN] hdspmixer-1.1

2003-07-28 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:53:52 +0200 (CEST),
Thomas Charbonnel wrote:
 
 It's done (hdspconf-1.1):
 
 http://www.undata.org/~thomas/
 
 It fixes a small bug + an issue in card detection preventing it to work
 with hdsp9652 cards. It fixes too FLTK detection in configure.

thanks, it's now on cvs.
i hope it can slip into 0.9.6 release.


Takashi


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RE: [Alsa-devel] CVS doesn't compile

2003-07-28 Thread Markus Bollinger


 -Original Message-
 From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:27 AM
 To: Markus Bollinger
 Cc: Martin Langer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] CVS doesn't compile
 
 
 At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:16:03 +0200,
 Markus Bollinger wrote:
  
  [1  text/plain; Windows-1252 (quoted-printable)]
  Sorry,
  I didnt know that compilers can get angry with [].
 
 i didn't get error with gcc-3.3.  perhaps gcc-2.x only...?
 
  Use the attached patch.
  
 or [1] would be enough, i believe.
 for GCC, [0] is ok, too (although it's not strictly defined in ANSI).


There is only once use of this stuct by a pointer to it,
so it makes no difference for the stack or the generated code.


Markus.


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Re: [Alsa-devel] SPDIF and alsa, does it works for all cards/receivers?

2003-07-28 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:33:43PM +0100, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:

 You are correct, SPDIF and alsa does NOT work with all cards and all 
 receivers.
 Points to note: -
 1) Does the receiver require non-audio bit to be set? Some do, some 
 don't. My receiver does need it.

Yes, unfortunately it does!!!

 2) Does the sound card set the non-audio bit correctly when outputting 
 AC3 data. The SB Live does this correctly.

I think the cs46xx and the intel-8x0 don't (like my DVB card).

 3) Does the sound card output data un-modified from the PC to the SPDIF 
 socket. The SB Live does interpolation on the PCM samples from the PC, 
 so that the samples comming out of the SPDIF are different from the PCM 
 samples from the PC. This therefore corrupts the AC3 frame (crc checks 
 are done on it by the receiver) and no sound is output. (Normal stereo 
 sound works because the ear cannot tell the difference between 
 interpolated samples and the original samples). The alsa programmers 
 have done a special work around for the SB Live problem, using something 
 called the TRAM, in order to bypass the interpolators and get perfect 
 AC3 output.

So, maybe I should consider using a SBlive (and buy a good cable for
it)!!!

 4) Sample rates. Some audio cards can only work at 48Khz, or only at 
 44.1Khz, so outputting an AC3 signal from a DVD requires 48Khz, but 
 outputting a AC3 signal from a CD requires 44.1khz. So, depending on 
 where the media file with AC3 in it came from, it may or may not play.

I am not sure of the sample rate that come from the DVB source?

 It seems that SPDIF AC3 output is about the last feature that the alsa 
 developers add when a new card is supported with alsa.
 As intel8x0 is used on so many different motherboards, alsa cannot hope 
 to support them all. The important issue with intel8x0 is the type of 
 ac97 chip used. If you run alsamixer, in the top left corner, it will 
 have Chip: . Which chip does you motherboard have.

I am not at home now, but according to
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=311MODEL=MS-6398E
I have a Realtek ALC650 6-channel audio

 All motherboards use different chips, and it is the programming of that 
 chip that is required in order to set the non-audio bits.
 Summary: -
 Your problems are most likely to be (2) and (4).

I think (2) is the real one, because, a friend with the same Digifire
7.1 card and another receiver have perfekt 5.1 sound with his receiver.
Is there any hope for it to be solved?

It's not a real problem for me to use the SBlive or the Digifire 7.1 as
I don't really need the Firewire of the Digifire 7.1 ;-)

Thank you very much,

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[Alsa-devel] Trivial hdsp.c patch to support rev 50 cards

2003-07-28 Thread Thomas Charbonnel
Hi,

This adds rev 50 to the list of supported cards.

Thomas




hdsp_rev50.patch
Description: Binary data


Re: [Alsa-devel] Trivial hdsp.c patch to support rev 50 cards

2003-07-28 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:47:44 +0200 (CEST),
Thomas Charbonnel wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 This adds rev 50 to the list of supported cards.

thanks, applied to cvs.


Takashi


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Re: [Alsa-devel] Trivial hdsp.c patch to support rev 50 cards

2003-07-28 Thread Paul Davis
This adds rev 50 to the list of supported cards.

i will have a slightly longer patch that includes this, later
today. also included will be a no_mixer option for the hdsp9652.

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RE: [Alsa-devel] Trivial hdsp.c patch to support rev 50 cards

2003-07-28 Thread Mark Knecht


 This adds rev 50 to the list of supported cards.

 i will have a slightly longer patch that includes this, later
 today. also included will be a no_mixer option for the hdsp9652.

 --p


Paul,
   Is this envisioned an option in modules.conf, or a compile time option?

   Also, while I have your attention, can you clarify whether the RME
Hammerfall 9652 and 9636 have mixers? I made one of my 9636 machines into
dual boot last evening and then found alsamixer didn't work. I assume that
means the 9636 has no mixer, or is this a bug I should be reporting
somewhere?

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RE: [Alsa-devel] Trivial hdsp.c patch to support rev 50 cards

2003-07-28 Thread Mark Knecht

Is this envisioned an option in modules.conf, or a compile
 time option?

 modules.conf.

Also, while I have your attention, can you clarify whether the RME
 Hammerfall 9652 and 9636 have mixers? I made one of my 9636 machines into
 dual boot last evening and then found alsamixer didn't work. I
 assume that
 means the 9636 has no mixer, or is this a bug I should be reporting
 somewhere?

 the digi9652 and digi9636 have no mixer.

 --p

Thanks for the info.

So then the only way to set volume levels on a DIGI9652 or DIGI9636 when
using Alsa is either in the application, or using some form of a script
like:

#!/bin/bash

for i in $(seq 1 26);do
amixer -c 0 sset 'Chn',$i 85%
done

Thanks,
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Re: [Alsa-devel] [ANN] hdspmixer-1.1

2003-07-28 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi Thomas,

 congrats! Great to have this with linux as well (and it's good to have
it look the same, too). It compiled right away after a minor fix for
FLTK header file name (patch attached).

--
Orm


Am Sonntag, den 27. Juli 2003 um 17:44:57 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Thomas
Charbonnel:

 Hi,
 
 This is already a bugfix release :
 
 * Fixes a typo for Digiface and H9652 cards in HDSPMixerSelector.cxx
   (caused a crash on startup)
 * Fixes a menu messing bug in Submix handling
 * Fixes FLTK detection in configure
 * Fixes a bug preventing full reset to factory settings
 
 It's available from:
 http://www.undata.org/~thomas/
 
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--- src/HDSPMixerMeter.h-orig   2003-03-04 10:06:46.0 +0100
+++ src/HDSPMixerMeter.h2003-07-28 20:20:39.0 +0200
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@
 #define HDSPMixerMeter_H
 
 #include FL/Fl_Widget.H
-#include FL/fl_draw.h
+#include FL/fl_draw.H
 #include HDSPMixerWindow.h
 #include HDSPMixerPeak.h
 #include pixmaps.h


[Alsa-devel] RME HDSP

2003-07-28 Thread Daniel Sheltraw
Hello ALSA

Can someone tell me what the differences are between PCI busmastering
for the RME HDSP and the RME digi 9652 cards. Does RME use a third
party vendor for the bus master controller? If so do you know who?

Thanks,
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Re: [Alsa-devel] CVS doesn't compile

2003-07-28 Thread Martin Langer
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 11:26:59AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
 At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:16:03 +0200,
 Markus Bollinger wrote:
  
  [1  text/plain; Windows-1252 (quoted-printable)]
  Sorry,
  I didnt know that compilers can get angry with [].
 
 i didn't get error with gcc-3.3.  perhaps gcc-2.x only...?
 

it's gcc 2.95.4 from debian woody

thanks for the fix,
martin


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Re: [Alsa-devel] RME HDSP

2003-07-28 Thread Paul Davis
Can someone tell me what the differences are between PCI busmastering
for the RME HDSP and the RME digi 9652 cards. Does RME use a third
party vendor for the bus master controller? If so do you know who?

no idea. you'd have to know which chips to look for on the
boards. AFAIK, there are no differences between the two systems
implementation of PCI busmastering, but its not something i've ever
considered asking about.


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[Alsa-devel] Core Sound PDAudio-CF

2003-07-28 Thread Len Moskowitz
Please add the Core Sound PDAudio-CF card to the ALSA Soundcard Matrix.

PDAudio-CF is a Type I extended compact flash card that provides optical and
coaxial IEC958-compatible inputs.  It allows PDAs, laptops and desktop PCs
to accept digital audio data streams  (S/PDIF, AC3, DTS, ATRAC, MPEG) with
sample rates ranging from 32 to 192 KS/s and word widths from 16 to 24-bits
wide.  It is fully supported by an ALSA driver and runs reliably on
computers ranging from HP iPAQ PDAs to the latest generation laptop and
desktop PCs.  A two-channel linear PCM recording application (PDAudio
Recorder) is available, including GPL'ed open source.

Thanks!


Len Moskowitz
Core Sound
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